Comments on: What is “Deeming,” Anyway? The Health Care Debate http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/ News, Commentary, and What to Watch on WashingtonWatch.com Mon, 20 May 2013 14:02:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: The WashingtonWatch.com Blog’s 2010 in Review – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-7662 The WashingtonWatch.com Blog’s 2010 in Review – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog Sun, 26 Dec 2010 16:20:26 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-7662 [...] health care? Lots and lots of posts. Lots of [...] [...] health care? Lots and lots of posts. Lots of [...]

]]> By: The Strange Non-Budget Budget – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-6496 The Strange Non-Budget Budget – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:37:40 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-6496 [...] line into a different resolution deeming Spratt’s resolution passed. (We’ve seen “deeming” around these parts before…) That different resolution was to govern debate on H.R. [...] [...] line into a different resolution deeming Spratt’s resolution passed. (We’ve seen “deeming” around these parts before…) That different resolution was to govern debate on H.R. [...]

]]> By: Health Care Overhaul Legislation Goes Back to the House – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-5944 Health Care Overhaul Legislation Goes Back to the House – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:27:19 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-5944 [...] What is “Deeming,” Anyway? The Health Care Debate [...] [...] What is “Deeming,” Anyway? The Health Care Debate [...]

]]> By: Henry Massingale http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-5923 Henry Massingale Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:35:01 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-5923 As predicted , the first stages of the Health Care Bill was passed. Why, you ask ? It is because people wish to be seen for their in put of a view and not unite. What is lost is respect with in a concept of { Freedom Of Choice } to be a part of this system or not, with in this Health Care Force Pay Matrix. What is offered by FASC Concepts is the Freedom Of Choice, because we feel it is unconstitutional to force pay into the failures of Health Care Insurance Companies and then Tax that money. As you can see our elected officials are paying little attention to the public. As I reach out to my computer and I knock , knock, knock on the screen, and I say is there any body out there? This Health Care issue keeps taking turns and twist that bewilder the mind in thoughts. This $100 trillion dollar system ,as it would seem, I am counting up to $ 8 trillion 682 billion Dollars so far. On guy emailed me and he is up to $27 Trillion dollars. You see when Harry Reid added a extra ....almost, $2 Trillion dollars in a tax forum, this through my numbers off with the 1 to 3 year spread of taxes. Lets show you this way seeing how I run out of fingers to count on and I do not feel like taking my shoes off..... to get a $4 Trillion dollar tax spread, it is based at a 0.25% up to 4 years. To be able to see the amount taxed in one year as a whole at 50% is around $8.2 Trillion to $8.8 Trillion, please remember according to Government Officials this is to be a spread tax, 3 to 10 years.. There is over 10 thousand companies I have not even got to yet. So lets take this $ 8 trillion 682 billion Dollars , reach into your mind and say ,1 to 3 to 10 years Tax against the Health Care System, then take this 10% tax against the almost $4 Trillion Dollars, your factor must be a multiplication. Then you will see this Tax factor as net value of that system. But of course Government Officials will not show the a net value of a system or that one company, this wold make it to easy for the People to follow the Tax Dollar. Remember this tax dollar does not include the split petition of the tax forum of increases in other areas, in the name of Health Care Reform. This tax forum I, or we can have very little effect against. As for theses hidden taxes, they are not hidden. They are built into a split petition. They are meant not to be seen, only revealed as the Progressive Capital Tax Forum works the system in order to not over burden the money system. What is lost is trust because Government Officials by considering the public slow witted and as for this Bill, I want to read the Law that is to represent the Bill. This is because one word has a directive and a code and a sentence can lead to a different truth in concept. So now it begins, the Civil Rights Law Suits and Constitutional Suits. We are not talking just a few law suits we are talking thousands will be filed because of the Freedom Of Choice is taken away and a Tax against money that is not Government Officials Rights to Tax, the Health Care Money for Coverage. Within our web site we suggested to build a Government Web Site that will show the People the monthly income of this Health Care Dollar and what the dollar is used for. But of Course this can not be allowed this would audit the IRS and Government System. So, what do you wish to do ? Sit back and complain or unite your voice as one and state that ,{ We believe in the Freedom Of Choice to be a Part Of this Health Care System or not. } We intend to give life to hope to where there is none. FASC Concepts in and for Pay It Forward. Join the trickle effect and email President Obama ..... Our goal is to start a trickle effect and the goal is President Obama and this Bill to Law. To merge 250 million veiws for a honest Health Care reform. The trickle effect is , Email President Barack Obama Mar 20, 2009 ... How to contact President Barack Obama and other White House Officials. www.emailthepresident.com/ - Cached – Similar and state we support FASC Concepts in part or in full, and share your views and be respectful in order to gain respect. Health Care within a moral value, is to , { GIVE LIFE TO HOPE WHERE THERE IS NONE } Henry Massingale FASC Concepts in and for Pay It Forward www.fascmovement.mysite.com on google. yahoo, and aol.com please take the time and visit all my new friends on the net and if you wish to post with FASC Concepts you will be most welcomed. So join us and share your ideas as one in one voice. Just type in the web address and you will see over Results 1 - 10 of about 6,730 for www fascmovement com and there is over 10,000 post that are 6 month old. As predicted , the first stages of the Health Care Bill was passed. Why, you ask ? It is because people wish to be seen for their in put of a view and not unite. What is lost is respect with in a concept of { Freedom Of Choice } to be a part of this system or not, with in this Health Care Force Pay Matrix.
What is offered by FASC Concepts is the Freedom Of Choice, because we feel it is unconstitutional to force pay into the failures of Health Care Insurance Companies and then Tax that money. As you can see our elected officials are paying little attention to the public. As I reach out to my computer and I knock , knock, knock on the screen, and I say is there any body out there?
This Health Care issue keeps taking turns and twist that bewilder the mind in thoughts. This $100 trillion dollar system ,as it would seem, I am counting up to $ 8 trillion 682 billion Dollars so far. On guy emailed me and he is up to $27 Trillion dollars.
You see when Harry Reid added a extra ….almost, $2 Trillion dollars in a tax forum, this through my numbers off with the 1 to 3 year spread of taxes.
Lets show you this way seeing how I run out of fingers to count on and I do not feel like taking my shoes off…..
to get a $4 Trillion dollar tax spread, it is based at a 0.25% up to 4 years.
To be able to see the amount taxed in one year as a whole at 50% is around $8.2 Trillion to $8.8 Trillion, please remember according to Government Officials this is to be a spread tax, 3 to 10 years.. There is over 10 thousand companies I have not even got to yet. So lets take this $ 8 trillion 682 billion Dollars , reach into your mind and say ,1 to 3 to 10 years Tax against the Health Care System, then take this 10% tax against the almost $4 Trillion Dollars, your factor must be a multiplication. Then you will see this Tax factor as net value of that system. But of course Government Officials will not show the a net value of a system or that one company, this wold make it to easy for the People to follow the Tax Dollar.
Remember this tax dollar does not include the split petition of the tax forum of increases in other areas, in the name of Health Care Reform. This tax forum I, or we can have very little effect against.
As for theses hidden taxes, they are not hidden. They are built into a split petition. They are meant not to be seen, only revealed as the Progressive Capital Tax Forum works the system in order to not over burden the money system. What is lost is trust because Government Officials by considering the public slow witted and as for this Bill, I want to read the Law that is to represent the Bill. This is because one word has a directive and a code and a sentence can lead to a different truth in concept.
So now it begins, the Civil Rights Law Suits and Constitutional Suits. We are not talking just a few law suits we are talking thousands will be filed because of the Freedom Of Choice is taken away and a Tax against money that is not Government Officials Rights to Tax, the Health Care Money for Coverage.
Within our web site we suggested to build a Government Web Site that will show the People the monthly income of this Health Care Dollar and what the dollar is used for. But of Course this can not be allowed this would audit the IRS and Government System.

So, what do you wish to do ? Sit back and complain or unite your voice as one and state that ,{ We believe in the Freedom Of Choice to be a Part Of this Health Care System or not. } We intend to give life to hope to where there is none.
FASC Concepts in and for Pay It Forward. Join the trickle effect and email President Obama …..
Our goal is to start a trickle effect and the goal is President Obama and this Bill to Law. To merge 250 million veiws for a honest Health Care reform. The trickle effect is , Email President Barack Obama
Mar 20, 2009 … How to contact President Barack Obama and other White House Officials.
http://www.emailthepresident.com/ – Cached – Similar
and state we support FASC Concepts in part or in full, and share your views and be respectful in order to gain respect.
Health Care within a moral value, is to ,
{ GIVE LIFE TO HOPE WHERE THERE IS NONE }
Henry Massingale
FASC Concepts in and for Pay It Forward
http://www.fascmovement.mysite.com on google. yahoo, and aol.com
please take the time and visit all my new friends on the net and if you wish to post with FASC Concepts you will be most welcomed. So join us and share your ideas as one in one voice. Just type in the web address and you will see over Results 1 – 10 of about 6,730 for www fascmovement com and there is over 10,000 post that are 6 month old.

]]> By: House Plans Health Care Overhaul Vote Sunday – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-5916 House Plans Health Care Overhaul Vote Sunday – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:08:01 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-5916 [...] What is “Deeming,” Anyway? The Health Care Debate [...] [...] What is “Deeming,” Anyway? The Health Care Debate [...]

]]> By: Your Chance to Read the Health Care Bill – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-5908 Your Chance to Read the Health Care Bill – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:56:41 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-5908 [...] What is “Deeming,” Anyway? The Health Care Debate [...] [...] What is “Deeming,” Anyway? The Health Care Debate [...]

]]> By: Arabella http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-5902 Arabella Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:34:58 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-5902 Thanks for the education on Deeming. You might be interested in how Senator Byrd, of reconciliation's "Byrd Rule", expressed his approval of using reconciliation to pass health reform in a letter to the Editor of Daily Mail, W.Va...he also gets irritated at Republican Kill-the-bill BS propaganda surfacing in the article. Thursday March 4, 2010 Reconciliation can be used to find savings Advertiser It has been said that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. In the Daily Mail's March 2 editorial regarding health care reform legislation, "Using reconciliation would hurt Democrats: Choking off debate is no way to muscle through health legislation," the newspaper's misunderstanding of congressional procedures misinforms readers who, in rapidly increasing numbers, find themselves unable to obtain or afford medical insurance. The editorial correctly quoted me as saying in the spring of 2009 that using reconciliation to enact a huge health care package would "violate the intent and spirit of the budget process . . .". I believed then, as now, that the Senate should debate the health reform bill under regular rules, which it did. The result of that debate was the passing of a comprehensive health care reform bill in the Senate by a 60-vote supermajority. I continue to support the budget reconciliation process for deficit reduction. The entire Senate- or House- passed health care bill could not and would not pass muster under the current reconciliation rules, which were established under my watch. Yet a bill structured to reduce deficits by, for example, finding savings in Medicare or lowering health care costs, may be consistent with the Budget Act, and appropriately considered under reconciliation. With all due respect, the Daily Mail's hyperbole about "imposing government control," acts of "disrespect to the American people" and "corruption" of Senate procedures resembles more the barkings from the nether regions of Glennbeckistan than the "sober and second thought" of one of West Virginia's oldest and most respected daily newspapers. My commitment to protecting the best interests of all West Virginians and the American people remains as firm and consistent as my devotion to observing the necessary and essential Senate rules and procedures intended to guarantee debate and the airing of diverse views. Robert C. Byrd Washington, D.C. Byrd is the senior U.S senator from West Virginia. Thanks for the education on Deeming.

You might be interested in how Senator Byrd, of reconciliation’s “Byrd Rule”, expressed his approval of using reconciliation to pass health reform in a letter to the Editor of Daily Mail, W.Va…he also gets irritated at Republican Kill-the-bill BS propaganda surfacing in the article.

Thursday March 4, 2010
Reconciliation can be used to find savings
Advertiser

It has been said that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. In the Daily Mail’s March 2 editorial regarding health care reform legislation, “Using reconciliation would hurt Democrats: Choking off debate is no way to muscle through health legislation,” the newspaper’s misunderstanding of congressional procedures misinforms readers who, in rapidly increasing numbers, find themselves unable to obtain or afford medical insurance.

The editorial correctly quoted me as saying in the spring of 2009 that using reconciliation to enact a huge health care package would “violate the intent and spirit of the budget process . . .”.

I believed then, as now, that the Senate should debate the health reform bill under regular rules, which it did. The result of that debate was the passing of a comprehensive health care reform bill in the Senate by a 60-vote supermajority.

I continue to support the budget reconciliation process for deficit reduction. The entire Senate- or House- passed health care bill could not and would not pass muster under the current reconciliation rules, which were established under my watch.

Yet a bill structured to reduce deficits by, for example, finding savings in Medicare or lowering health care costs, may be consistent with the Budget Act, and appropriately considered under reconciliation.
With all due respect, the Daily Mail’s hyperbole about “imposing government control,” acts of “disrespect to the American people” and “corruption” of Senate procedures resembles more the barkings from the nether regions of Glennbeckistan than the “sober and second thought” of one of West Virginia’s oldest and most respected daily newspapers.

My commitment to protecting the best interests of all West Virginians and the American people remains as firm and consistent as my devotion to observing the necessary and essential Senate rules and procedures intended to guarantee debate and the airing of diverse views.

Robert C. Byrd

Washington, D.C.

Byrd is the senior U.S senator from West Virginia.

]]> By: Dave http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-5901 Dave Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:07:27 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-5901 In other words, it's a way to get around that pesky document we call The Constitution of The United States. In other words, it’s a way to get around that pesky document we call The Constitution of The United States.

]]> By: links for 2010-03-17 « Overton’s Arrow http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-5898 links for 2010-03-17 « Overton’s Arrow Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:43:43 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-5898 [...] What is “Deeming,” Anyway? The Health Care Debate – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog (tags: politics procedure deem pass law regulation Congress) [...] [...] What is “Deeming,” Anyway? The Health Care Debate – The WashingtonWatch.com Blog (tags: politics procedure deem pass law regulation Congress) [...]

]]> By: Libby http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/2010/03/17/what-is-deeming-anyway-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-5894 Libby Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:14:28 +0000 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/blog/?p=4666#comment-5894 Thanks for the pol-splanation! Thanks for the pol-splanation!

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