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H.R. 5634, The New American Innovators Act (10 comments ↓ | 3 wiki edits: view article ↓)

H.R. 5634 would exempt from numerical limitations any alien who has received a Ph.D. from an institution of higher education within the 3-year period preceding such alien's petition for special immigrant status.

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Shiva

Why this bill is biased towards immigrants who are applying within 3 years of graduation? What about those who graduated, say 4 years earlier and still working as post-docs?
Do people proposing this bill has any idea of what they are doing to so many PhD immigrants who do not fit these three year rule?

Xtro

This is a great bill. I totally agree with the law makers on this issue. This will help many PhDs in this country.

anonymous

Good for foreign PhD.

Amit

The bill is good. but it needs to be clear what it means 3 years or earlier. does it mean that if the phd made an application three years from getting the degree and are stuck, they can get relief. or it is that they need to apply for another kind of visa.

but overall it is very good. The country should be welcoming this highly skilled immigrant group.

Hamilton

This bill will diminish the supply of technical workers who are existing American citizens in two ways. First, it helps to artificially deflate the salaries of jobs available to technical workers by artificially increasing the supply of available foreign workers who will work for reduced salaries. Second, the bill will further encourage foreign students to attend American universities where they frequently serve as teachers. These technical subjects are difficult to learn in and of themselves. Forcing our existing students to try to learn these subjects from non-native English speakers places them under an unnecessary burden.

Anonymous

Hamilton I think you have to think twice before posting nonsense. Why do you assume that foreign workers work for reduced salaries??? Your second statement is even more foolish. There are many non-native english speakers who can explain things better than native speakers. Do you know how mnay americans graduate with an advanced degree????

Xtro

Hamilton, there are many many profs in this country who are non native English speakers. They produce so many PhDs and conduct great research. BTW, did you ever attend a university?

Hamilton

Anonymous, you're right I have no wage data. However, simple economics says that an increased supply leads to a diminished price given the same demand. I've been trying to find data that indicates an increased demand. Can you point me to a good source?
As for the language barrier, while I have no doubt that non-native speakers have a grasp of the subject matter, these are difficult concepts to communicate. Specialized subjects are even more difficult to communicate in a foreign tongue. There are two aspects to teaching, the ability to grasp the subject, and the ability to effectively communicate it to students.
As for the number of Americans that graduate with advanced technical degrees per year, it’s about half as many as the number of foreigners who graduate from the same universities with the same degrees. That was actually the point.

kronus

How are these foreigners able to get jobs in America? The H1B and L1 visas are controversial and from my experience foreign workers are working for reduced salaries.

I have attended a university and can see Hamilton’s points. It’s seems that we provide motivation for foreign students to stay in a university but do little to motivate US students from doing the same. Eventually you reach a self fulfilling prophecy where the universities hold a good amount of foreign students.

I find it suspicious that with our economy in its current state that we have these bills that cater towards foreign students and workers. No offense but I don’t see how it helps me.

Anonymous

This country is built on immigrants and because of Immigrants. Denying them is like denying America's history. Millions of people living in USA are the sons and daughters of many who migrated here from Europe, Asia and other continents. The law makers know this and hence this bill. I am totally in agreement with the senators on this. Keep up the good work

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