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P.L. 113-6, The Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013 (15 comments ↓ | 11 wiki edits: view article ↓)

Making appropriations for the Department of Defense, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and other departments and agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2013.

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March 6, 2013, 4:48am (report abuse)

Funding the military is ok, as long as it includes getting everyone out of Afghanistan and other hell holes.

Funding for the VA is a different matter. There is already far too much money being poured down that black hole. It is time to rein in the unconscionable spending spree at the VA. Cut the VA budget by at least 25% now. That would be a good start.

Alice Hall

March 11, 2013, 3:32pm (report abuse)

So the VA is a BLACK HOLE? I'd be willing to bet you never served in the military and therefore weren't promised benefits you never got. Many of our brave fightmen men and women were wounded to the extent they can never work again and need their benefits and can't get them. Many of the families who lost a loved one depended on their benefits and can't get them. How about we quit giving welfare to people who are too lazy to get off their butts and work? or drug addicts and women who continue to have babies they can't afford to have? that would be a good start.

cuba_pete

March 11, 2013, 5:44pm (report abuse)

Talk about black holes! Even though our anonymous "***" calls the VA a black hole (where 86% of VA funding goes towards the Vets themselves, (not bad for a gov't agency), the funding for The War Effort is, at minimum with this bill, $46,246,051,000. Add it up for yourself, I did. That's over $46 Billion for those who don't like commas. There is a lot of money to be saved just by ending the war(s) on terror. We are going nowhere fast over there. We don't need to prop up a country whose administration doesn't even want us there.

@Alice Hall

March 11, 2013, 8:44pm (report abuse)

And you would be wrong. Why is it you and your ilk believe all veterans are in favor of all the welfare being dispensed by the VA? Could it be that you have no service to point to yourself and just choose to parrot the same old entitlement crap others use? Or are you one of those who is sucking at the public teat using the VA to pay your way? Sounds to me like you have a vested interest.

And as far as all your so-called hero veterans - just how many of them actually ever were in a firefight? A much smaller percentage than you would have us believe. Far more are just whining to get a shot at some free money from the rest of us who have to bust our butts every day to get by.

The VA IS a black hole, sucking the life out of the rest of us to give undeserving slugs a welfare check.

Cut the VA budget by at least 25% now. That would be a good start.

watchingtraitors

March 12, 2013, 3:39am (report abuse)

It is oncredibly hard to get anthing from the VA

Most vets get denied any $. Even when awarded it usually isnt permanent. Reexams at a va facility is mandatory & most awards & continuations r very political and also dependon budget. This applies even in obvious& fully document.always differant places r better than others, usually dependon political clout of whoever happens to b head of the facility their relationship tohappens to b over them &have whatever agenda . When these rules always apply in reality, why do people ignore this aspect & thenform badopinions Basic logic demands not have an opinwithout personaldiligence There r 10's of thous cases of veterans who were well documented in service,thenn at anytime after apply for benefits all of their records from servc&va disapear About 6 yrs ago the inspector generals office conducted a nationwide investigation of fraud in the va. what appeared 2b fraud by vetswas soley error by va admin.

@watchingtraitors

March 12, 2013, 3:39pm (report abuse)

It is certainly obvious that you have problems with self-expression. That you expect to influence anyone with the drivel you posted is amazing.

Having spent some time to analyze your idiot posting it appears to me that all those things you complain about are as it should be. Not every vet deserves compensation. No award should be permanent. They should be reviewed and reduced as needed.

There is fraud and abuse by veterans. Far too many seek to gain 100% simply because thay want free money, not because they are deserving of anything.

The VA IS a black hole, sucking the life out of the rest of us to give undeserving slugs a welfare check.

Cut the VA budget by at least 25% now. That would be a good start.

cuba_pete

March 18, 2013, 3:03pm (report abuse)

Alice and Traitors (quoting each other, probably the same person)...you need to name names and do your duty as a citizen. If you think that many people are not deserving of VA funding then you should out them yourself. Slashing the budget will hurt those who are truly deserving...*all* will suffer. "No award should be permanent". That is ludicrous...another blanket statement...a soldier who has lost one or more limbs should not have disability for life? Their "award" should not be permanent? I don't think you are even an American...why do you bother trolling and American site?

@cuba_pete

March 18, 2013, 3:25pm (report abuse)

So just why do you think I'm not an American? Do you really think all Americans believe veterans deserve a free shot at their wallets? If you do you should see a psychiatrist because you have a real problem with delusion.

If the condition is that bad why would a veteran be concerned about it being reduced? Any award of disability should be subject to periodic review and reduction, or increase, wherever warranted. The problem is that the veteran believes it is their right to have a permanent welfare check and that is just not true.

One more time:

Funding the military is ok, as long as it means getting everyone out of Afghanistan and all the other hell holes.

Funding for the VA is a different matter. There is already far too much money being poured down that black hole. It is time to rein in the unconscionable spending spree at the VA. Cut the VA disability compensation budget by at least 25% now. That would be a good start.

cuba_pete

March 25, 2013, 3:12pm (report abuse)

To the anonymous zealot coward...

The mere fact that you refer to the VA as black hole is an indication that you have no good intentions towards American Veterans. It is true that it is not a Veteran's right to have a permanent welfare check. VA disability, however, is not welfare. It is a Veteran's right to have the American government properly compensate a Veteran for services rendered. These things are contracted and promised to the Veteran. Having Congress go behind their backs and diminish the measly monetary compensation they receive for lost limbs or reduced mental capacity due to ordered actions is the lowest of low. You do not state you are an American and choose word games to dance around your dark deceit. I pray you have half an hour in heaven...before the devil knows you are dead.

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March 27, 2013, 3:54am (report abuse)

Same old $hit. All you get from veterans is "GIMME GIMME GIMME". They only know how to do one thing - stand around with their hands out for more welfare.

To the idiot known as cuba_pete - No veteran has the right to expect continued compensation for "services renered" as you put it. The whole thing has become just another government welfare program to put more and more of you sucks on the dole. Just look at all the little fat piggies at the welfare trough with you next time.

It is time to put a stop to the constant whine from all the veteran losers. Cut the VA budget and close the sucking black hole that is the compensation program.

And just to clear things up - I am an American.

Keep your prayers for someone who wants them. Whenever someone starts talking about "praying for you" they also have their hand in your pocket trying to rob you. Sounds like you are a two-time loser there - hypocrite and whiney veteran.

TTS

March 28, 2013, 5:29pm (report abuse)

Wow! I wonder why one would feel the need to be so rude? As for the harsh stereotyping of these VA & Welfare groups, I don't know a race, type or group to be ALL bad or ALL good. That would be impossible, as they are made up of humans. Agree that there are MANY that need these groups & MANY that are just using the system. The solution would be to put in better/stricter guidelines/services to stop the users/abusers and help the deserving/needy to thrive & become self supportive, when possible, automatically reducing the budget, once in place. Why be so ruthless, judgmental, and mean spirited to harm those who have served, without a solution to stop allowing the lazy to take from those that deserve, not to mention our pockets? There is no need to be so vulgar, as the others, some agreeing, in part with you, have not been so offensive. If you are not part of the solution, you are just adding your part to the problem, and we can agree, we already have enough problems! :o}

OH WAH WAH WAH!

March 28, 2013, 7:37pm (report abuse)

Don't like it? Don't read it!

Veterans have turned into one of the largest, if not THE largest drains on money in the welfare systems of this country. And don't be fooled by all the whining and crying, it IS welfare.

It is time to put a stop to the constant whine from all the veteran losers. Cut the VA budget and close the sucking black hole that is the compensation program.

disabled vet

April 1, 2013, 4:22pm (report abuse)

Sounds like you all who ever you are need to be on the front lines for the rest of your lives. Which would be very short. You all sound like a bunch of idiots. They dont last long in battle!

disabledvet

April 1, 2013, 4:24pm (report abuse)

I like to laugh at these idiots.

***

April 4, 2013, 12:25pm (report abuse)

Same old $hit.

"GIMME GIMME GIMME" is the only thing a veteran knows how to say.

Far too much veteran welfare already. Cut the VA and close the black hole.

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