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H.R. 32, The Military Surviving Spouses Equity Act (37 comments ↓ | 4 wiki edits: view article ↓)

H.R. 32 would amend title 10, United States Code, to repeal the requirement for reduction of survivor annuities under the Survivor Benefit Plan for military surviving spouses to offset the receipt of veterans dependency and indemnity compensation.

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***

January 6, 2013, 1:56am (report abuse)

Same old crap year after year.

Just a bunch of welfare whores trying to screw the taxpayers.

Dan Shea

January 10, 2013, 12:33am (report abuse)

Pass this thing already...

Here is a NY Times OpEd about published 5 Years AGO!

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/13/opinion/13shea.html

Thanks,

Dan Shea

Seattle, WA

Anti-Welfare

January 11, 2013, 1:32am (report abuse)

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

***

January 20, 2013, 1:25am (report abuse)

Just another attempt to scro the taxpayer

Widow of a Green Beret

January 22, 2013, 2:15am (report abuse)

This bill doesn't effect me personally, it does effect many people I know, People that are still grieving over the loss of their spouse. I am not a fan of tax payers paying more taxes to give away money, but this isn't a hand out, this is something bought and paid for by hard working soldiers for their families in case of having to give the ultimate sacrifice. Now we are telling widows and widowers sorry but all that money you paid into this plan you can't have it. Remember Military spouses usually move all the time so they have sporadic employment history which often makes it hard for them to obtain a job. A military spouse also has a harder time earning a degree because they move,credits don't always transfer. This money is to help them and their children to have what they would have momentarily if their loved one had not had to sacrifice their lives for our country and freedom. If that requires me to pay more taxes I'll be happy to do it, it's the least I can do for their sacrifice.

Dan

January 22, 2013, 9:53am (report abuse)

This is not welfare it is compensation given to a spouse who lost their life in the line of duty. I do not think they should get both benefits though. If you are eligible for both then yes you run it the way it is set up now. I do not believe you should be able to double dip the taxpayer.

***

January 23, 2013, 1:24pm (report abuse)

Goddness gracious, the whine is beginning again.

When will all you old broads figure out that no one cares about you anymore?

They want to get paid with both hands. It's too bad for them, and good for the rest of us, that it doesn't work that way.

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***

January 23, 2013, 9:55pm (report abuse)

Or you could just go elsewhere to whine. That way you can be around other losers just like you.

@Dan

January 31, 2013, 1:13pm (report abuse)

You don't have a clue what this is about. This isn't compensation for dying on duty. It is welfare payments to widows of veterans who MIGHT have had a medical condition as a result of their military service. And I do mean MIGHT because a great many of the compensation awards today are based on the possibility that it happened not the actuality.

So it IS welfare, plain and simple.

Medically Forced Retired

February 5, 2013, 11:42am (report abuse)

I am a 100% disabled veteran. I pay into the SBP retirement insurance. This bill permits my wife to get my retirement upon my death.

As "***" already stated in another feed, he/she is unwilling to forfeit his 401k retirement, but he/she wants veterans to sacrifice their retirements to the Disabled Veterans Tax. He/She states, "I paid for my 401k out of my wages", but we pay for our retirements though the SBP insurance, too.

Why does Congress submit bills like this one, to fix the system of congressional discrimination.

As for my disability, "***" writes, "You get what you deserve." What type of comment is that?

Insured

February 5, 2013, 2:30pm (report abuse)

This is not welfare. It is a bill permitting military spouses to get paid for the insurance payments made to SBP upon their military spouse death.

Currently, the government evades paying if the dead veteran was disabled. This bill help end the discrimination against the disabled veterans.

Anti-Welfare

February 6, 2013, 1:00am (report abuse)

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

ForThoseWhomServedOurCountry

February 6, 2013, 11:46am (report abuse)

Bragging money is the only way for the military to pay for their retirement plans? What about work, served? What about blood, shed? What about lives, paid?

This bill is to restore dignities to disabled veterans whom do not worship only money, but our country as well. This bill stops the discrimination against service-members forced from the military early due to their disabilities, forced into financial hardships, given a medical retirement, stripped of their medical retirements to pay a Deceased Disabled Veterans Tax, only spouses of disabled veterans pay. This bill repairs the dignity lost to disabled veterans for being the only one segregated to pay a tax based on the level of their disabilities. Many of these disabled veterans are unable to work any further, due to their service-connected disabilities, unable to generate a 401k plan, because they were fired from the military due to their disability.

Get back on-topic without the insults. End the Deceased Disabled Veterans Tax.

@ForThoseWhomServedOurCountry

February 6, 2013, 5:58pm (report abuse)

As soon as you sober up from your last binge perhaps you can come back and explain just what you were trying to say. None of it has anything to do with this bill, as far as I can see.

Otherwise just stay at the bar but please stay away from the computer.

MedicallyForcedRetired

(logged-in user) February 8, 2013, 11:57am (report abuse)

Veterans, upon retiring, make payments to the Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP) insurance to protect their spouses and children upon their death. Upon death of the veteran, the spouse receives a percentage of the veteran's retirement pay. These spouses have supported their veterans while they served OUR country, in a sense, serving OUR country as well.

However, if veteran became disabled and receive disability compensation, the spouse pays part of their Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP) insurance at a dollar for dollar ratio to a Deceased Disabled Veterans Tax, depending on the disability percentage of the disabled veteran from the Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA). At 100% disabled, where the veteran was unable to work due to their disability, DoD simply returns the payments made by the veterans instead of honoring the insurance. At 100% disabled, these veteran families were set on a set income, some whom also had to pay their retirement to the Disabled Veterans Tax.

MedicallyForcedRetired

(logged-in user) February 8, 2013, 11:57am (report abuse)

(continued)

This bill honors the insurance paid by the veteran rather than taxing it in the form of a Deceased Disabled Veterans Tax, and helping to end the some of the discrimination against the Disabled Veterans called Concurrent Receipt.

God Bless America and its Service Members protecting OUR country.

Medically Forced Retired

February 8, 2013, 12:46pm (report abuse)

Please stop imitating my name, "***". Your hatred for veterans is clear.

1) I don't receive welfare,

2) I don't drink,

3) The Department of Veterans Affairs is not "veterans welfare administration", as you identified in other forums,

4) I am not broke financially and have a savings,

5) I don't drink.

Please stop your attempts to trash this good site with your hatred, insulting, abusive, off-topic statements.

This forum is about bill H.R. 32, not your hatred of veterans, specifically the hatred for Disabled Veterans.

Thank you and God Bless.

***

February 8, 2013, 1:14pm (report abuse)

Not sure what you are babbling about here but I will say you are still playing the same welfare whine.

Either take DIC or SBP. No one deserves to be paid twice for the same thing.

Strange that you would pay for something you knew wouldn't be available to your spouse. Sounds like you may be a couple bricks short of a wall.

If you don't like what you read here then go somewhere else where you and your whiney loser crap will be more appreciated.

MedicallyForcedRetired

(logged-in user) February 8, 2013, 10:54pm (report abuse)

In reference to forcing disabled service-members into early medical retirement,"***" stated, "So all you weaklings get booted, as you should". I don't know why he hates disabled service-members, so much, that he wants them disabled and "booted", losing their careers and earned retirements.

This bill helps return dignities to service-members and their spouses and helps removes the discrimination of Concurrent Receipt laws.

The bill does not discriminate disabled veterans by abusively calling them, "veteran whores", "worthless losers", or "worthless a$$", as "***" does. Please don't support the discrimination and hatred by "***".

End this discrimination by supporting this bill.

Our service-members did much for this country. Without them, the Osama Bin Ladens would have it their way and end all American lives.

End the hatred and discrimination of OUR service-members and veterans. God Bless them, OUR Country and even "***".

MedicallyForcedRetired

(logged-in user) February 9, 2013, 12:09am (report abuse)

I just blocked the IP address of "***" and ALL discriminating comments towards service-members and veterans just disappeared in all WashingtonWatch forums, to include comments from "@@@" , "555"," @Medically Forced Retired", " @****", "@ForThoseWhomServedOurCountry" and some of "Medically Forced Retired" all belongs to the same person whom hates OUR service-members and veterans.

Please don't support his hatred and discrimination against OUR service-members and veterans, that "***" (whomever he calls himself ) displays and supports.

This bill helps end the discrimination against the disabled veterans and does not tell the service-members, "If you get hurt serving the military, you will lose your careers and retirements". HR303, HR333 and HR32 all help ends the discrimination of the Concurrent Receipt, attacking our disabled service-members and veterans. Please support these bills. I wish blocking all hatred and discrimination was just as easy as blocking one person's IP address.

Medically Forced Retired

February 9, 2013, 2:08am (report abuse)

Sounds like you should find someplace where you and your whiney ideas are more welcome.

I don't hate veterans. I do dislike welfare whores who want someone else to pay their way. Now which group do you belong to there loser?

***

March 5, 2013, 10:15am (report abuse)

Here come the little welfare piggies again trying to get the rest of us to pay for them to sit on their a$$es.

To DISABLED VETERAN Hater changing his name due to an identity crisis

March 5, 2013, 11:14am (report abuse)

This is not a welfare issue for Chapter 61 DISABLED VETERANS. This is a retirement pay issue for Chap. 61 DISABLED VETERANS. Of the 121,000 Chap. 61 DISABLED VETERANS, forced to end their careers strictly due to their disabilities, have work for the military for nearly 20 years. Many of these 121,000 Chap. 61 DISABLED VETERANS found new jobs and careers, but still SHOULD earned their retirements.

VA Disability Compensation is COMPENSATION for service-connected DISABILITIES.

You think working for the military as welfare, too?

Becoming DISABLED, while serving OUR COUNTRY warrants loss of careers and retirements?

121,000 service-members whom lost their incomes for your hatred satisfaction to insult them?

Where do you get your false facts?

Where is your honor to your country, your wallet?

No on proves my point better than the DISABLED VETERAN hater who cry for discrimination towards the DISABLED VETERANS.

Your only 1 person with a lot of hatred towards those who have given so much.

Medically Forced Retired

March 5, 2013, 3:45pm (report abuse)

I'm just a whiney suckass who wants something I don't deserve. I'm a cut and run who couldn't make the grade and now I want everyone to think I'm a real veteran.

I didn't really earn anything but I sure do want to get everything I can for free.

To DISABLED VETERAN Hater changing his name due to an identity crisis

March 5, 2013, 8:14pm (report abuse)

I knew you had to say the last word, just to insult the DISABLED VETERANS whom served OUR country with honor. Not only can't you make up your mind who you are, you have to use someone else's name, "Forced retired".

Your still only one person whom has to release his hatred on the DISABLED VETERANS.

You want proof? You are the proof? Now prove me wrong and don't end this thread with the last word insulting the DISABLED VETERANS.

This bill is designed to reduce discrimination against DISABLED VETERANS.

Deano

(logged-in user) March 5, 2013, 8:45pm (report abuse)

As a disabled veteran I can see, and in part agree, with both sides of the discussion.

Unfortunately the perception that veterans are seeking more than they deserve is spreading throughout the society. This happens when there are so many trying to gain benefits that the general public do not think they deserve. Especially when so many citizens are scratching hard just to get by.

Regardless of whether or not a person respects veterans they do get tired of paying and paying for more and more demands.

It seems to me that it is time for veterans to stop demanding so many things all at once and concentrate on those benefits that will actually add to their ability to function in society.

To Deano, you have proven yourself the better of the two of us

March 7, 2013, 11:21am (report abuse)

Mil. Retirement comes out of the DoD Budget. If DoD paid for Ch. 61 Medical Retirements, they would not be so quick to medically fire service-members. DoD did fire me with 19 yr, 4 mo. and 26 days. It drops their financial obligations to the DVA Budget. This is common. That is why there are 121k+, Ch. 61's. DoD actively discriminates towards disabled SM's with early end of careers and retirement losses.

It is VA Disability Compensation in need of screening, not military retirement. This compensation has been over-inflated. Why is losing 5 fingers disability rating greater than losing a hand? Approximately 1/3rd of our current SM's suffer from PTSD. The VASRD grants PTSD at 50% min. Is 1/3rd of our SM's truly 50% disabled? If not, is PTSD over-rated?

True this bill, and others will limit DoD discrimination towards its disabled service-members.

VA Disability Compensation is more like welfare than military retirement. Yes or no?

Deano

(logged-in user) March 7, 2013, 2:03pm (report abuse)

I posted my responses in the discussion of HR 164 and don't see the need to post them multiple times.

MedicallyForcedRetired

(logged-in user) March 16, 2013, 3:37pm (report abuse)

I am happy to say, as of Mar 14th, 2013, approximately 19% of the House have Co-signed this bill.

47 Republicans

38 Democrats

87 Total

Help OUR service-members, facing Chapter 61 forced medical retirement due to service-connected disabilities, about the loss of benefits they may lose upon forced medical retirement.

God Bless America and its Service Members protecting OUR country.

***

March 16, 2013, 11:49pm (report abuse)

Hey dimbass, this bill is not about you and your scumbag veteran sucking buddies. Looks like you can't keep your $hit straight.

Same old crap. Just a bunch of welfare whores trying to screw the taxpayer.

MedicallyForcedRetired

(logged-in user) March 19, 2013, 3:02pm (report abuse)

I am happy to say, as of Mar 18th, 2013, approximately 20% of the House have co-signed this bill.

49 Republicans

41 Democrats

90 Total

Help OUR service-members, facing Chapter 61 forced medical retirement due to service-connected disabilities, about the loss of benefits they may lose upon forced medical retirement.

God Bless America and its Service-Members protecting OUR country.

Medically Forced Retired

March 19, 2013, 4:27pm (report abuse)

I am happy to say, as of March 18th, 2013, approximately 80% of the House have recognized this bill for what it is another welfare scam.

Help the taxpayers qho are facing financial hardships, higher medical costs, more and more taxes to pay for all these welfare programs, and the possibility that they will never have a retirement at all. Tell your senators and representatives you want them to oppose this bill.

God Bless America and ALL the citizens who live here.

MedicallyForcedRetired

(logged-in user) March 27, 2013, 1:57am (report abuse)

I am happy to say, as of Mar 26th, 2013, approximately 21% of the House have co-signed this bill.

51 Republicans

46 Democrats

97 Total

Help OUR service-members, facing Chapter 61 forced medical retirement due to their service-connected disabilities. Warn them about the benefits they may lose upon forced medical retirement. No one should face forced medical retirement and then lose their retirement benefits just to save DoD money. Disabled retirement is no more than being "FIRED" but given an Honorable Discharge for becoming disabled while serving in the U. S. Armed Forces.

God Bless America, all of its citizens and the Service Members protecting OUR country.

Medically Forced Retired

March 27, 2013, 11:19am (report abuse)

I'm not sure why the poster above is talking about Chapter 61 retirement in this bill. This bill has nothing to do with that. Perhaps there is a comprehension problem involved.

I am happy to say, as of March 27th, 2013, approximately 78% of the House have recognized this bill for what it is - another welfare scam.

Help the taxpayers who are facing financial hardships, higher medical costs, more and more taxes to pay for all these welfare programs, and the possibility that they will never have a retirement at all. Tell your senators and representatives you want them to oppose this bill.

God Bless America and ALL the citizens who live here.

MedicallyForcedRetired

(logged-in user) April 11, 2013, 12:08pm (report abuse)

I am happy to say, as of Apr 11th, 2013, approximately 23% of the House have co-signed this bill. More and more representatives are co-signing this bill.

53 Republicans

47 Democrats

100 Total (101 if you add the representative whom introduced this bill)

Help OUR service-members, facing Chapter 61 forced medical retirement due to their service-connected disabilities. Warn them about the benefits they may lose upon forced medical retirement. No one should face forced medical retirement and then lose their retirement benefits just to save DoD money. Disabled retirement is no more than being "FIRED" but given an Honorable Discharge for becoming disabled while serving in the U. S. Armed Forces. Only the passing of this bill will restore some of their retirement benefits, even if it is forwarded to the disabled veteran's spouse upon death.

God Bless all Americans, to include its Service Members protecting our country and the veterans injured while protecting our country.

Medically Forced Retired

April 11, 2013, 4:19pm (report abuse)

Again I have made an error. I just can't help myself. I don't know why I posted my usual drivel on this bill since it has nothing to do with the content of this bill at all.

I am happy to say, as of April 11th, 2013, approximately 77% of the House membership have recognized this bill for what it is - another welfare scam. This bill would create a double payment for a group of former spouses. It would not serve the society as a whole to pass this bill.

Help all those taxpayers who are facing financial hardships, higher medical costs, more and more taxes to pay for all these welfare programs, and the very real possibility that they will never have a retirement at all. Tell your senators and representatives you want them to oppose this bill.

God Bless America and ALL the citizens who live here.

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