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H.R. 822, The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011 (22 comments ↓ | 10 wiki edits: view article ↓)

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H.R. 822 would amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a national standard in accordance with which nonresidents of a State may carry concealed firearms in the State.

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L Klem

February 25, 2011, 9:36pm (report abuse)

this is what should have been done since the beginning of time, your drivers license, marriage license, and passport r all recognized in all states, so whats the big deal with this? its a license , should definitely be recognized in all the land....

L K SC

February 25, 2011, 10:06pm (report abuse)

hey, ? when a state law enforcement pulls you over for a traffic violation, they ask to see your drivers license, which was issued by your state, am i missing something here? never heard them say or know anyone ever heard them say when writing a ticket that your drivers license is not good in their state. so how come you don't need a different license to drive in some states? but i notice that the color green is good in any state.....its government issue, thats all their is to it...

D Griffith

February 27, 2011, 2:05am (report abuse)

im a house wife who lives on the border of two states, i travel every day into another state, the state across the border does not recognize my ccwp i have to leave my weapon home, or locked up in my vehicle, which i don't like to do because the area i visit is crime ridding.. what am i suppose to do?

leroy smith

February 27, 2011, 3:37am (report abuse)

great thought, feel very safe as we speak, its the best thing that could happen in this day and age....i hate being a victim away from home....

S. Baxter

March 5, 2011, 1:24pm (report abuse)

L.S. That is a very good point. we know most of the areas around our own hometown and know where to avoid. When we go out of state it is a lot easier to end up somewhere that is not a place you want to be unprotected..

John12801

March 10, 2011, 8:23pm (report abuse)

This would be great move. This law would send a big foot up every states butt that don't want to even help HONEST citizens out by getting a permit like New York. I hope it goes through so people can laugh at the states that think they have complete control over the people LIKE New York.

rannan3

(logged-in user) November 14, 2011, 11:27am (report abuse)

PEOPLE this Bill is a Trojan Horse that lets Government get it's nose into Carry Laws ... It should NOT be allowed to pass.

Think of the future ramifications :

Once gun owners let the Government start mandating whether states recognize permit reciprocity, they will want to mandate what it takes to get and keep those permits.

We’re talking about:

More onerous standards to acquire a permit so that only FBI agents can pass muster (look at New York’s permit system);

Higher fees;

More training requirements;

A demonstration of “Need” for a permit;

More frequent renewal periods;

Federally-mandated waiting periods;

A national database of all permit holders, accessible by Attorney General Eric Holder;

An extensive, federally-created list of Criminal Safezones, where only criminals will carry and where law-abiding gun owners are vulnerable;

The list of potential problems is endless.

CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN TODAY !

R Davis

November 14, 2011, 12:27pm (report abuse)

This bill needs to be passed for legal Americans to uphold their own self defense. As of now the criminals have their weapons without regard for law. Making it only law abiding citizens are at risk.

PTERSEUS

November 14, 2011, 5:47pm (report abuse)

This is a scam to give the federal government the right to deny anyone the right to carry a gun. They have been encroaching onto states rights over guns for years. They can now arrest you if you carry a gun onto post office property. This gives them more power and they won't stop.

Don't be fooled!

DonNIE

November 17, 2011, 11:20am (report abuse)

Will this bill have to go to the Senate now??? They are not passing hardly any bills there. They are stacked op a mile high. Good luck on this one if it has to get voted on by the Senate.

danbo

December 2, 2011, 11:30am (report abuse)

I don't think it's a trojan horse at all. The law won't provide the government to issue the permits, it's simply saying that all states will have to honor each others already and future, locally issued permits. It is a good thought though, and there could be some tint of future destruction of our rights. But for now, I say pass it and cross that other bridge when we get to it. Remember.... feds still feel that we should be able to have machine guns. I trust them right now more than I do most states, ie. California and New York.

Sandman29

December 3, 2011, 8:21pm (report abuse)

Anyone who has read the "armed citizen" column in the NRA magazine American rifleman knows what it means to have the means and ability to protect ones family or themselves from the unsavory characters that are popping up in every populated area. Take San Bernardino county in California for example. This county has the 3rd largest "gang" population in the nation. With the economy the way it is expect future cuts to emergency services like fire, emt and law enforcement to continue.What do our legislators expect the citizens to do? I have a permit to carry that is valid in 31 other states but is NOT valid in my home state.Explain to me what sense that makes.I do believe that there needs to be some sort of minimal training requirements such as safety, familiarization and defensive employment. Remember Y2K and 6 mos before the last election when there was a firearm and ammo buying frenzy? There are a lot of "owners" that have no clue how to safely handle or employ their firearm.

DJK

December 5, 2011, 10:33am (report abuse)

Currently training requirements for Commercial Drivers Licenses are standardized at the federal level, but it is a state who issues the license. National Concealed Carry Reciprocity permits may evolve into the same sort of system. I do not understand how IL is abe to prevent concealed carry entirely. I avoid buying anything from Illinois....

jjgwatchman

December 14, 2011, 8:12pm (report abuse)

i have concealed carry permits for

ny,fla,penn,and conn . does this make any sense ? i only need one

drivers license , and it`s honored in all 50 states . it would be a step in the right direction to aid

citizens who respect the law,rather than inhibit them with needless buracracy

Peggy

December 26, 2011, 12:08am (report abuse)

What the federal government can give, the federal government can take away. Why should the feds have our gun registrations?

tom2

January 24, 2012, 3:58am (report abuse)

I like it but make no national database like the nazis came for the registered gun holders. The right to be armed was put there to keep governments in check along with criminals too. So the only senators that appose it should be ousted next time around.

Seadoggie 47

February 18, 2012, 10:04am (report abuse)

This bill should be adopted. Currently, there are really only about 16 or so states that don't have reciprocity with certain states, i.e. Florida (recognized in 33 states) that issue CWPs. So, we would merely be rationalizing the recognition of the CWP nationwide. Interestingly, a Texas CWP CHL) is recognized in 30 states, and Texas recognizes a CWP from most states like New York even though that state does not provided reciprocity. This is extremely confusing and problematic for the law abiding CWP holder. The Senate needs to pass this legislation.

sjone61

April 9, 2012, 2:12am (report abuse)

I have a ccw license in my home state of Mo. and last I looked it was honored in some 40 states. Mo. will honor a ccw from any state, please tell me why cant it be all 50 states? I feel that all 50 states should work out what is the best training, adopt it, and go that way, after all, when you can use a gun for defense is similar in most states. It is up to us to know the laws on that, so when you cross a state line you need to know when you can and when you can't, this isn't rocket science folks. I say lets get on our senators and make this happen, after all they work for us, or at least they are supposed to.

Josh Black

June 14, 2012, 9:03pm (report abuse)

It seems most red blooded Americans are behind this bill. The people who are opposed are typically affraid of guns. They grew up sheltered and protected from the ugly reality of the world that people will always have guns. Yes Im refering to the bleeding heart liberals could care less if the second amendment was wiped off the constitution. Their fear of firearms is so great it blocks out any calability of logical reasoning. Im sick of their blind crys to take away our gun rights. Liberals have no balls and no teeth. They just keep eating veggie burgers and drinking that soy milk, yea I mean you Californians. Most of the country relates you to aliens and baby shit.

Inquisitor

July 5, 2012, 9:31pm (report abuse)

Currently there are ten (10) states that do not recognize concealed weapons carry permits issued by any other states. (CA, CT, HI, IL MA, MD, NJ, NY, OR, & RI) Of these, one (IL) does not have any provisions for issuing concealed weapons carry permits and does not allow concealed weapons carry.

Conversely, there are eleven (11) states that honor all other states' concealed weapons carry permits. (AK, AZ, IA, ID, IN, MI, MO, OK, SD, TN, & UT). One state (VT) does not require a permit for concealed weapons carry and therefore does not issue concealed weapons carry permits.

The remaining twenty-eight (28) states recognize some other states' concealed weapons carry permits but do not recognize other states' concealed weapons carry permits. These remaining 28 states are also not consistent with each other thus creating a mind-numbing and constantly changing environment for travelers with valid state issued permits for concealed weapons carry.

I support S. 2213 and urge you to also.

Inquisitor

July 5, 2012, 9:38pm (report abuse)

I have written my Senators on my support of H.R. 822, which passed the House on November 16, 2011 by a vote of 272 - 154. On November 17, 2011, H.R. 822 was referred to the Senate, where it was referred to the Senate Committee on the Judiciary. As of this date, there are no hearings or actions scheduled for H.R. 822, even though it passed the House with a significant bi-partisan majority and deals with an issue regarding the failure of States to adhere to the US Constitution and as a result, deny US Citizens their Constitutional Rights. Since that time, 2 more Bills, S. 2188 (03/13/2012) and S. 2213 (03/20/2012), have been introduced in the Senate and also referred to the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, where they also sit with no hearings or actions scheduled. It appears to me that the Chairman and members of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary are sitting on these Bills with the intention of never allowing a vote on any of them. This is not what we elected our Senators to do!

Inquisitor

July 5, 2012, 9:45pm (report abuse)

I will no longer tolerate the practice of burying legislation so that our elected representatives do not have to cast votes which become public record. Given that this practice has become the normal, I will consider every nonvote as a NO vote in my consideration of every individual's and both party's voting history for future elections. We, the people, deserve to have all issues voted upon so that we can see if our elected representatives are, in fact, representing their constituents and the US Constitution rather than some party position that is indefensible and contrary to both law and fact. I expect the Senate Democratic caucus to do everything to have H.R. 822, S. 2188 and S. 2213 moved from the Senate Committee on the Judiciary and brought to the Senate floor, without amendment, for a vote. Failing that, any one Senator may circumvent any Senate committee through the Senate's Amendment procedures where the entire text of a Bill can be added as an amendment to another Senate Bill.

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