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H.R. 178, The Military Surviving Spouses Equity Act (87 comments ↓)

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  • This bill, or a similar bill, was reintroduced in the current Congress as H.R. 32, The Military Surviving Spouses Equity Act.

H.R. 178 would amend title 10, United States Code, to repeal the requirement for reduction of survivor annuities under the Survivor Benefit Plan for military surviving spouses to offset the receipt of veterans dependency and indemnity compensation.

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January 9, 2011, 2:30am (report abuse)

How long will it take to get this bill passes> Last year it passed in both the house with 352 in fafor of this bill and in the Senate with 78 in favor of of the bill. I think it is a sad day when we can't get any legislation passed because one party stalls all year! Last year the Caregivers act was passed. I did a lot of care giving and never felt begrudged. Now that I see my property taxes climb up up up and gas costs as well, I start woundering how much longer I will be able to live in my home. I do want to stop working some time. But with the various costs going up and a son living with me that has run out of unemployment it is getting too much. Especially when you consider my husband bought and paid for SBP. I do get DIC, however I only receive the basic DIC. I coud sure use the SBP. Just the other day my son asked why I didn't get a new car? Answer in plain language is they are to costly. Even if I do need one.

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January 10, 2011, 3:37pm (report abuse)

Just more welfare. This bill should never be passed.

Anti-Welfare

January 10, 2011, 4:10pm (report abuse)

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

Harris

January 11, 2011, 3:49pm (report abuse)

For those that posted Just more welfare. Evidently you don’t have a spouse or don’t care for them after taking care of you!

@Harris

January 11, 2011, 5:17pm (report abuse)

I have a spouse and I care for them deeply. And neither they or I believe the taxpayer should be footing the bill for YOUR lazy butt.

Just another welfare bill for a few worthless whiners.

VOTE NO!

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January 12, 2011, 6:04am (report abuse)

Is it possible to clean this site up some? I realize there are people for and against this bill. It does no good to just use foul langage and try to inflame someone. Give your opinion and mosey on to another site.

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January 13, 2011, 12:18am (report abuse)

DON'T LIKE IT?

DON'T READ IT!

By the way could you point out the "foul language" you speak of?

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January 13, 2011, 6:02pm (report abuse)

You said:

"Last year it passed in both the house with 352 in fafor of this bill and in the Senate with 78 in favor of of the bill."

How is it that this bill passed and yet here it is again? I do believe you have a few wires crossed. Would you care to elaborate?

Anti-Welfare

January 13, 2011, 6:05pm (report abuse)

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

A surviving spouse

January 15, 2011, 3:54pm (report abuse)

For those of you who have no clue as to what SBP (Survivor Benefit Plan) is I would like to explain. It IS NOT a welfare program. It is a RETIREMENT PLAN for surviving spouses the individual officers PAID FOR! My late husband devoted 27 years to military service. Then starting when he retired, he paid into the SBP every month from his military retirement for another 32 years.

Any surviving spouse of anyone who ever served in the military are eligible to receive the DIC pension from the VA if they determine the veteran's death is service related. But IF the VA determines a military RETIREE'S death is service connected and grants DIC pension to the surviving spouse, then the federal government turns around and stops the wife's PAID FOR SBP pension.

Do you think a private employer could get away with stopping a PAID FOR pension of a surviving spouse just because the VA awards their DIC pension? So why should it be done to military retiree's wives?

a surviving spouse

January 15, 2011, 4:37pm (report abuse)

You said "How is it that this bill passed and yet here it is again? I do believe you have a few wires crossed. Would you care to elaborate?"

It's real simple - it went to budget committee who can't figure out how to pay the 57,000 widow's their SBP.

I have to wonder what happened to the money that was PAID into the pension fund. I suspect it went into the federal governments general account and has been spent on other programs instead of being reserved for the survivors pensions.

If it was

January 15, 2011, 6:47pm (report abuse)

passed then it is a law. Since it isn't a law it wasn't passed. That seems pretty simple. These bills are not put up for a vote until the money is there.

Just how much money do you think was paid in to the fund? It sure wasn't as much as you want to grab out of it, that's for sure.

MORE WELFARE!

MORE "ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY"!

VOTE NO!

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January 15, 2011, 11:53pm (report abuse)

You are oh so right. Where is all the money? Why does everyone support the bill and then let it fizzle out when the actual vote is ready to be taken? We have too many in DC who want to keep the money our spouses put away for us. As was stated last year by someone, the spouse put that money into a fund understanding that the other would not be left behind with the death of the spouse. The ad from the Military states that without SBP the check will end. However it does anyway. It is not welfare, it is what the spouse puts away for the other party. Give me a break! 57,000 people are still waiting to receive the benefit owed to them.

Poor ###

January 16, 2011, 4:12am (report abuse)

You still haven't answered the question. Just how much money do you think was paid in to the fund?

When I retired I could have taken SBP at a cost of $105 per month. Based on that figure I would have paid in about $12,600 by now. If I had taken it and died this year my wife would draw at least $1300 per month for as long as she lived, if she did not remarry. In 12-13 years, considering interest on the account she would have drawn out more than was paid in. At the age of 49 she would stand to draw for at least 30 years. Just who do you suppose would be paying for that? Why the taxpayer, who else.

And anyone with their head on straight wouldn't buy into SBP anyway. It is less expensive to buy a good term life insurance policy and the payout would certainly be higher. Sounds like there were a goodly number of suckers out there who can't add up benefits for squat.

JUST MORE WELFARE!

MORE "ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY" WHINING!

VOTE NO!

For poor

January 20, 2011, 1:27am (report abuse)

Poor###,

I fact that you half posted more than once with no intention other than being a "PRIG", tells me you half nothing to do with your life, If you think it a bad bill than that's you opinion."ANYONE WITH THEIR ON STRAIGHT" Wouldn't write such a ignorant post...you must be a stand up guy.

For the rest of the poster out there, don't worry about what these key board tough guys say, I hope it passes for all who need it. Semper FI

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January 20, 2011, 3:57am (report abuse)

And another idiot from the motorpool speaks up. Must have sniffed too many gasoline fumes to have a coherent thought. Perhaps you should take a look at your posting and see if you might need some grammar lessons.

Semper Fi my butt. The closest you ever got to a Marine was at the local bar.

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January 21, 2011, 12:45am (report abuse)

I will gladly admit I never was in the Marine Force. However, I was on the other end of someone who was in the Army. The death was service connected. I receive DIC. Where did all the money that was paid into the Annuity go to. We gave up things to enable us to have the Annuity. It was bought and paid for. I can tell you if the pension I pay into every payday just disappears I will be very unhappy. I will not receive anything but the lump sume because I stayed at home with my spouse. One does not think of a retirement fund going going gone. No other company could get by with the offset. So get real. It is time the government did. No more offsets! And no more taxes on the money when we never paid any. 6% Tax on the money put into the annuity. It is crazy!

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January 21, 2011, 4:04pm (report abuse)

JUST MORE WELFARE FOR THE ENTITLEMENT GENERATION!

VOTE NO!

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January 22, 2011, 6:48am (report abuse)

Have you stopped to consider just how little was paid in versus how much has been drawn out? Of course not. If you had you wouldn't be asking such stupid questions.

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January 22, 2011, 9:00pm (report abuse)

I have. In some cases the Military party paid up to and including 200. That is a lot to never see. But now with this latest addition true the militart did refund payments but no interest. They think they should get 6% interest added on that was never returned. How is this right? In other words should I remarry, I must return all monies plus 6% that I never received before I remarry. I am not interested in a second marriage but come on! Why should I pay the interest I never received back?

Anti-Welfare

January 23, 2011, 9:17pm (report abuse)

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

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January 24, 2011, 8:32am (report abuse)

This is not welfare! This is not an entitlement! This is a bought and paid for annuity. So now you go and take yourself off this site. It is not very responsible to continue saying this is welfare when it is not. As far as it coming out of the taxes you pay, this annuity money was used to buy the annuity. No one is asking for tax dollars to pay for this annuity. As I recall My spouse got a statement every 6 months as to how much he had paid. Then to have to give it up when it is needed most? I had a folder that was chuck full of all of the statements. I would sure like to know where the money is. And to find now that the suvivor must pay all money plus 6% interest back should they remarry after 57? I sure received no interest. What is going on?

Anti-Welfare

January 24, 2011, 4:20pm (report abuse)

It is subsidized by the taxpayer.

That means it is:

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

a surviving spouse

January 26, 2011, 7:26pm (report abuse)

It would be very useful information if the government financial department could give an accounting of all monies paid in, all interest accrued and all monies paid out of the SBP fund.

a surviving spouse

January 26, 2011, 7:27pm (report abuse)

IF the SBP is just another welfare payment then how do you explain the SBP premiums being refunded if VA DIC is approved?

Just another surviver

January 27, 2011, 2:47am (report abuse)

Truth be known, I received DIC the month after my spouse died. I do not recall any interest being paid back. I just feel it is wrong to pay for so many years, a premium that was deducted from disability pay. Now should you remarry, you must pay back anything they sent to you. Not only that, you must pay back with interest at the rate of 6%. First they keep the interest as not one peny in interest was paid back. Therefore, they still have all the interest my spouse earned, and they want to be repaid at 6%interest. This is disgusting to say the least. I can only say widow/widower beware!

concerned citizen

January 27, 2011, 5:06pm (report abuse)

My comment is directed to "Anti-Welfare." Have you spent 24 yrs in the military, fought under combat conditions, moved 12 times in 24 years, had your family sacrifice along side only because you love your country? How many military members do you think this country would have if they didn't have the support of their families? In many cases, spouses sacrifice their own careers, expecting their military member to survive a normal lifespan, however, just in case this does not happen, they purchase the SBP annuity to ensure the financial well being of their family. This premium is paid out of their own money. However now we find out later that it is to be taken away.

My husband die young from asbestos and benzene poisoning from military aircraft. I can't sue the government for damages and now you also want to take away the annuity that I paid for out of my own money????

Anti-Welfare

January 28, 2011, 4:04am (report abuse)

No, just 21 years, moved 13 times, pulled more deployments than I can even count. My family does not need or want the taxpayer to subsidize their future.

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

Concerned Citizen

February 1, 2011, 8:14pm (report abuse)

I am happy that you and your family do not need or want financial help should something happen to you. Now everyone reading your remarks can understand your one-sided opinion more clearly. It is quite apparent that no one will be able to clarify our position to you. I only wish I was lucky enough to be in the same financial position as your family. I do work two jobs and still struggle as a military widow trying to support two daughters.

Anti-Welfare

February 1, 2011, 10:23pm (report abuse)

There is no reason for the rest of us to pay to support you.

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

Cricket

February 9, 2011, 9:39pm (report abuse)

Today Yahoo News had an article on line about the DIC/SBP offset...Lets hope it wakes up some of the people in our goverment as to the unfairness of thid offset..

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February 10, 2011, 1:02am (report abuse)

It sure would be nice if some of our congressmen/congresswomen did get a wake up message. They need to hear from more then just those of us who are the victim of this injustice.

Anti-Welfare

February 10, 2011, 6:34am (report abuse)

There is no reason for the rest of us to pay to support you.

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

Cricket

February 10, 2011, 6:41pm (report abuse)

Yesturday the SBP/DIC offset was news on Yahoo...Today there is a half page article in our newspaper about it...Lets hope that bringing this to the public will finally do some good....Cosponsers went from 12 to 41 over night...

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February 10, 2011, 10:07pm (report abuse)

The SBP/DIC offset and remarriage to even get the SBP was on CNN . We are beginning to work our way into the media. One thing that bothered me is that CNN discussed the congressmen/congresswomen. They felt that no self respecting person would deny this benefit if it was placed on the table. It was explaned that we have had it out there since 2005, and no one has found the money to pay for this.

Anti-Welfare

February 11, 2011, 7:00am (report abuse)

There is no reason for the rest of us to pay to support you.

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

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February 15, 2011, 6:25am (report abuse)

Poor planning on the part of veerans and their spouses does not constitute a reason for the rest of us to subsidize then for the remainder of their lives. This is another welfare program for a priveleged few and I vote no.

Just another survivor

February 17, 2011, 6:04am (report abuse)

Wher is the poor planning? My spouse and I had already tried Mortgage insurance. Because of the injuries and disabilities we were not able to get Mortgage insurancance. We tried for additional insurance. We were unable to get any. Thankfully my spouse had some from the place he worked at for 24 years. We took the chance on SBP and monthly paid the premimus until my spouse died. So where is the poor planning?

@@@

February 17, 2011, 10:00pm (report abuse)

Should have started younger. Or were you just saying "No sweat, the government will take care of us."? More likely that since you continue to whine for someone else to support you.

NO MORE WELFARE!

NO! NO! NO!

@@@

February 18, 2011, 3:50pm (report abuse)

Here's the solution for all you whiney old broads.

Go down to your local skidrow and find a homeless bum off the street. Drag him to a justice of the peace and get married. I'm sure you could find someone who would be willing to marry even you as long as you are willing to give him a little of that money for some wine and dope.

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

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February 20, 2011, 11:51pm (report abuse)

And for those of who do not wish to re-marry? Seems a little drastic when our spouse was the only one we ever wished to marry. Problem UNSOLVED. I am al for helping those less fortunate out, and somewhere around March we will be openong a homeless shelter for homeless veterans. That does not mean I will be marrying any of them. You should see some of the stories. This one can't drive because of a speeding ticket. Can't drive can't get to a job. Some have had health problems. Can't work according to the employer. A friend of my spouse just had never gotten a license. He would call and as for a ride every so often. So to use the homeless is less then honest or fair. You just might find yourself in the same shape down the road.

@,,,

February 21, 2011, 5:52am (report abuse)

It isn't about helping them. IT's about solving the problem with the offset. You don't have to sleep with him. You don't even have to live with him. All he wants is some money to take care of the monkies on his back. Solves two problems with one rock.

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March 2, 2011, 4:42pm (report abuse)

To be honest nobody gaves a crap about a bunch of old worn-out hags.

*****

March 2, 2011, 10:56pm (report abuse)

Listen to a man for awhile you "prick" sounds like you have all the answers for these people in need. Do you think a law of this kind would be denied because of deadbeats like yourself? Why don't you catch the next ride to Afgan and be hauled back in a metal box!YDHSY

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March 3, 2011, 4:49am (report abuse)

OOOOHHHHHH! The nutjobs are starting to come out of the sewers now. Silly little people who like to act big. Go back and grab your mama's tittie scumbag.

HERE'S HOW IT IS!!!

THIS IS JUST MORE WELFARE FOR A BUNCH OF OLD HAGS!

VOTE NO!

!!!

March 6, 2011, 4:35am (report abuse)

This is one that does not wish to listen to your vulgar stupid ideas. I dislike your pretense that my spouse ment nothing. Get real! Remember there are men and women that did serve there country only to lose their health and die at an early age. These are people you are demeaning! People who served their country only to be bad mouthed by the likes of you. These people also paid into an annuity account to protect there family. No poor planning just greed on your part. Where is all this money that our spouses paid into?

@!!!

March 6, 2011, 6:32pm (report abuse)

THIS IS JUST MORE WELFARE FOR A BUNCH OF OLD HAGS!

VOTE NO!

Don't you get it?

March 9, 2011, 5:34pm (report abuse)

Nobody cares about a bunch of whiney old women.

Get over it.

Mary Kely

March 19, 2011, 5:57am (report abuse)

How would you like to pay into a benefit for 25 years and benefits your spuse are to recieve to live on are taken away due to no money to pay her. We are living in bad times. Our husbands paid dearly. What goes around comes around. Also, to those who keep us standing in line now for 25 years/

Mary Kely

March 19, 2011, 6:06am (report abuse)

By the way is a sytem to get the benefit your retired husband has to pay for.they contibute 40%. This is more than any state federal or civil service workers pay in. We get ziltch

***

March 19, 2011, 3:55pm (report abuse)

THIS IS JUST MORE WELFARE FOR A BUNCH OF OLD HAGS!

VOTE NO!

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April 1, 2011, 4:21am (report abuse)

Boy this whole thing is just not fair. and now the states start taking away as well. Well they had better not touch what I have in my pension as I have paid for it since I was able to start working after my spouse died. No I don't get the SBP and yes I got a letter from the military. I just hope I will be able to retire soon.

Poor Old Thing

April 2, 2011, 7:51pm (report abuse)

It might be a good thing for you to keep working. We are working hard to take as much as we can.

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April 5, 2011, 6:08am (report abuse)

I am continuing to work! I just went in today to get my license for next year. Mine will expire on June 30 2011. And no this time I did not take any more courses. Going back to college has been expensive. I figure I have done enough learning just having to learn so many new text books as well as go in for Smart board training I should not have to. I was right as I did not need to take any more training.

Silly

April 22, 2011, 1:10am (report abuse)

Let me get this straight, we give concurrent receipt to military retirees for life. Mind you most go on to work another 20 years to earn a second pension, yet we cant give this to surviving widows suuuuuure. Next you are going to tell me we give military retirees concurrent receipt and social security, oh wait we already do.

***

April 23, 2011, 11:57pm (report abuse)

THIS IS JUST MORE WELFARE FOR A BUNCH OF OLD HAGS!

VOTE NO!

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April 24, 2011, 4:01am (report abuse)

Well I do have news for you Mary. I have paid 50% of my pension plan since getting it. What with new laws that have been passed, there is everyone paying 50% to get their Pension. It hurts and rightly so. That is a lot of money taken out of your pay check every 2 weeks. Tht is why I requested an est. of my pension account. Since I did pay 50% I don't want anyone messing around with my account. I guess I feel it is like my having gone to the bank and deposited that 59% in the bank. I want it there when I do retire.

Anti-Welfare

April 24, 2011, 2:39pm (report abuse)

There is no reason for the rest of us to pay to support you.

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

@@@

May 4, 2011, 4:03am (report abuse)

Mary

If I sounded as though I did not think you should get your SBP I am sorry. It is just that I live in a state where public workers are required to pay 50% of their pension plan. I did some checking when things were getting bad here. So far I am 100% vested and have been asured I will get the pension money when I retire. I don't know how long I will be able to continue on as there have been so many personel cuts. And, if the people were not cut or laid off, they are retireing due to the over load in work and the cost of insurance added to the 50% payment for the pension plan.

Anti-Welfare

July 4, 2011, 12:32pm (report abuse)

There is no reason for the rest of us to pay to support you.

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

witty

(logged-in user) September 1, 2011, 3:31pm (report abuse)

@*** and @anti-welfare

FYI 95% of the widows whose SBP is offset were married to retired service members who are catastrophically disabled. Life insurance is not available to these service members and SBP is usually the only option.

The other 5% were awarded SBP by Congress because their husbands died on active duty. Their SBP is paid by the funds that would have paid their husbands'retirement pay.

Florida Gal

September 1, 2011, 3:31pm (report abuse)

Only someone who didn't serve would call supporting the families of troops,who made the ultiimate sacrifice, welfare recepients for needing the annuities their America Heros paid monthly premiums for them to receive.

***

September 1, 2011, 5:18pm (report abuse)

Nobody cares about a bunch of whiney old women.

Get over it.

There is no reason for the rest of us to pay to support you.

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

Mayauntie

September 1, 2011, 11:58pm (report abuse)

I voted for it and I support it **** to bad you were not at my Spouse's side that day.

***

September 3, 2011, 2:43am (report abuse)

Nobody cares about a bunch of whiney old women.

Get over it.

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

Ruth Schlotzhauer

September 12, 2011, 12:49pm (report abuse)

I believe as widows and what our spouses endured and died serving their country and paying into the sbp , the widows should be entitled to the sbp

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September 13, 2011, 3:09am (report abuse)

It may be that it hurts all you old broads to hear this but here it is again -

NOBODY CARES!

GET OVER IT!

JUST WELFARE FOR A BUNCH OF WHINEY OLD BROADS!

VOTE NO!

Gold Star Wife

September 13, 2011, 3:49pm (report abuse)

We PAID into it and we deserve it. Just like everyone paying into SS deserves it.

***

September 13, 2011, 7:25pm (report abuse)

You deserve to be paid ONCE. The government doesn't refuse to pay. They just refuse to pay twice. And that is just the wat it should be done.

NOBODY CARES!

GET OVER IT!

JUST WELFARE FOR A BUNCH OF WHINEY OLD BROADS!

VOTE NO!

Kate

September 19, 2011, 6:16pm (report abuse)

SBP is not welfare. Retired military personnel paid premiums to ensure that their widows had income after their death. It is life insurance in the form of an annuity.

Congress gave SBP to post 9-11 widows without payment of premiums as compensation for the loss of their husbands.

SBP is currently offset by a benefit from the VA called DIC. DIC is paid to the widows of veterans who died of a service connected cause whether or not the service member served for long enough to retire.

This essentially means that our husbands paid for the benefit from the VA that others service widows received without charge.

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September 20, 2011, 1:21am (report abuse)

WHAT IS JUST AND RIGHT IS NO DOUBLE PAYMENTS!

THAT IS THE WAY IT IS NOW!

YOU ALREADY GET PAID!

NO DOUBLE DIPPING!

SAME OLD WHINE!

NOBODY CARES!

GET OVER IT!

JUST WELFARE FOR A BUNCH OF WHINEY OLD BROADS!

VOTE NO!

Heather P

September 20, 2011, 1:44am (report abuse)

Anti-Welfare - I am Naval daughter that moved more than you in your 21 year career. A true hero, my father proudly served his nation. My mother stood by him moving 26 times to support his career. When he was killed during active duty, he left my mother alone to raise 3 children still in school, the youngest in 3rd grade. My mother is courageous, hard-working, and put her needs aside to assure that we had everything that we needed. I am ashamed of you for calling our widows, a blight on our nation, when they lost so much. This is a benefit that was paid for with money from their husbands paychecks and their husbands lives. You apparently served and retired were fortunate enough that your wife never had to learn the hard way what benefits are promised and not delivered. I am appalled by your frequent bullying on this page. If you truly want to reduce welfare, spend your time volunteering to make a difference, rather than bullying widows that are trying to correct an injustice.

***

September 21, 2011, 3:41am (report abuse)

WHAT IS JUST AND RIGHT IS NO DOUBLE PAYMENTS!

THAT IS THE WAY IT IS NOW!

YOU ALREADY GET PAID!

NO DOUBLE DIPPING!

SAME OLD WHINE!

NOBODY CARES!

GET OVER IT!

JUST WELFARE FOR A BUNCH OF WHINEY OLD BROADS!

VOTE NO!

@Heather P

September 22, 2011, 3:41pm (report abuse)

Don't like it?

Don't read it.

Too bad you can't stand disagreement. Must make your life hell.

VOTED NO ON THIS ONE.

***

September 28, 2011, 5:18am (report abuse)

YOU ALREADY GET PAID!

NO DOUBLE DIPPING!

SAME OLD WHINE!

NOBODY CARES!

GET OVER IT!

JUST WELFARE FOR A BUNCH OF WHINEY OLD BROADS!

VOTE NO!

Mary Kelly

December 27, 2011, 9:16am (report abuse)

Some Congressmen obviously feelhat widows and widowers are triple dipping. Social Security is not free you have to pay the tax out of your earned minimum wage check. I work since I was 14 years old at .50 cents an hour in food restaurant. I went to school during the day. I paid into the system over 40 years. The government gives you nothing for free.They do take your money and give you nothing in return. Please everyone bring that money to my house and I'll also give you knowing. SBP is not free. It comes out the soldiers retired pay. This causes a hardship as military retired pay based on disability was low. We nearly starved to death. Congress promised us a gift. Then he died of 100 percent SCD. after 11 years. There is nothing truely free because he suffer an awful death. For all things there is a price.

Anti-Welfare

December 29, 2011, 3:07pm (report abuse)

JUST MORE WELFARE!

VOTE NO!

Been There

August 14, 2012, 12:58am (report abuse)

I am 100% SCD WWII, Korea &Vietnam

type who is personally offended by the derogatory remarks throughout 2011. HR 178 and S260

are in committee and still alive. I too have paid into the SPB for thirty years.

The concurrent receipt of the SBP and DIC is not that expensive.

The law has as written will offset the SBP by the DIC,add in a SSIA and refund the unpaid SBP payments. The total of all that equals 24 months of concurrent SBP and DIC payments.

If my wife survived me by 24 months and I died tomorrow she would be pushing 95 years. The

chances of the concurrent receipt surpassing the offset are little or none.

Behind any law offering a benefit to a citizen there is an actuary. The SBP/DIC offset is no exception.

Come on Congress make it happen.

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