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S. 436, The Internet Stopping Adults Facilitating the Exploitation of Today's Youth Act of 2009 (14 comments ↓)
S. 436 would amend title 18, United States Code, to protect youth from exploitation by adults using the Internet.
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tmj
February 20, 2009, 12:27pm (report abuse)According to CNN, each (S. 436 and H.R. 1076) contains the same language: "A provider of an electronic communication service or remote computing service shall retain for a period of at least two years all records or other information pertaining to the identity of a user of a temporarily assigned network address the service assigns to that user."
That is, every home with a Wi-Fi access point, gateway, router, etc. would be required to collect and retain these records.
I'm all for "saving the children"--but this is ridiculous, unenforceable, and liable to be abused.
emma
February 20, 2009, 2:47pm (report abuse)This is unacceptable. A gross violation of our privacy. Sure, track people who are suspicious to see if they're doing anything wrong. Do not invade the privacy of your citizens. I am disturbed greatly by this proposal. This is not about "saving the kids." That is only a facade for what this bill is really trying to do. Get the word out to say "NO" to this bill if you enjoy having the freedom of privacy.
Paul
February 20, 2009, 3:45pm (report abuse)As TMJ has put it and with my experience in the field this is almost as far into the the rediculous as one could put it. Maybe just maybe it could work for ISP's and coffee shops but for those people who have wifi at homes i bet good money that they will not have the knowledge nor the actual hardware ability to do this if they wanted too.
Common this is just shooting in the dark.
PALMYRA
February 20, 2009, 5:03pm (report abuse)I know the internet rule about using the word NAZI to describe someone or some thing so I wont. How about Gestapo, KGB, Stasi, or Taliban? I can think of nothing else that describes the morons who have proposed this. It is a Washington, Jefferson, Adams, and the rest of the founders must be rolling in their graves.
erich
February 20, 2009, 5:40pm (report abuse)This will only lead to a lot of mostly-innocent, ignorant people going to jail because they don't know how to use their own equipment. But maybe if it passes and a few innocents go to jail it will lead to the revolution of thought and attitude that I've been waiting on these past few years. I'd rather see it gone though.
vuduchld
February 20, 2009, 7:49pm (report abuse)Let the idiot sponsors of this bill be subjected to it first! I get sick and tired of people like this proposing bills only to have themselves be made \\\"exempt\\\" for national security reasons. Who keep electing folls like this!!
getarealjob!
February 21, 2009, 9:25am (report abuse)Oh boy! The dmca wasn't enough? Now we have an even worse one to be abused to no end. Im sure some innocents will get caught in this one too.
Police state is here
February 21, 2009, 8:19pm (report abuse)Well, now tey can track subversive elements as they will say to keep our country safe, (massive eye roll) under the thin veneer of child exploitation. It is a vile, evil bill and is the future police state in your life.
NotGonnaHappenAnytimeSoon
February 22, 2009, 7:04am (report abuse)Folks, there is no way this requirement is reasonable for private citizens to implement en-masse, devices are going to have to store the data and dot it by default for this to be implemented in a wide-scale. As always with your home access points, you are potentially liable if someone commits a crime using your access point but the state has to prove who actually did it. No judge is going to send you to jail because your linksys router doesn\'t store its dhcp records for two years. It\'s not reasonable to assume that just anyone can do this.
Lawmakers need to get a clue, put the onus on the equipment manufacturers to make the devices store this information.
Great idea
February 22, 2009, 11:50am (report abuse)So, who is going to pay to for the hardware and time to setup all this logging? When the fishing expeditions come, and you are forced to hand the data over, who pays you for the time...
Finally, as has been seem MANY times, what happens when this data is interpreted incorrectly and innocent people are accused?
Any idea how much data this would be? This would be nearly impossible! I suspect if enacted, free public wifi, etc would cease to exist!
JOHN BOY
February 23, 2009, 3:42pm (report abuse)GET LOST WITH THIS SH*T LAW WE HAVE LAWS ALLREADY THE USA DONT ENFORCE THE PHONY LAWS THEY HAVE NOW THIS LAW IS TO MAKE A BIG FAT
DOPE OF A LAWMAKER LOOK LIKE THEY GIVE A SH*T LET ME TELL YOU THEY IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU CAN PROVE WHO USED ANY COMPUTER AT ANY TIME
ENOUGH WITH THESE PHONY LAWS I DONT OWN ANY ISP IF I DID I WOULD NOT SAVE ANY DATA MORE THEN 1 DAY
IF I WORK FOR A ISP I WOULD DELETE
ALL DATA EVEYDAY I DONT GIVE A RATS *SS FOR ANY PHONY LAWS EVEN THE LAWS WE HAVE NOW TO YOU LAWMAKERS GO SUCK A EGG
Not!
March 7, 2009, 8:53pm (report abuse)Yet another attempt at circumventing the very foundations of our country under the guise of "protecting children"
Dean Pedersen
April 19, 2009, 12:22am (report abuse)This bill is stupid.
Fat Boy
May 9, 2009, 1:38am (report abuse)Seriously doubt any router will even store ALL the log for 2 years.Most routers simply dont have much storage capacity,and, as new log entries are made, previous older ones get deleted.An easy way this is to simple surf around aimlessly and whatever older log entries you dont want to be keep can be will be place with newer pointless ones(urls to pictures of bunny rabbits)