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H.R. 952, The COMBAT PTSD Act (37 comments ↓ | 7 wiki edits: view article ↓)

  • This item is from the 111th Congress (2009-2010) and is no longer current. Comments, voting, and wiki editing have been disabled, and the cost/savings estimate has been frozen.
  • This bill, or a similar bill, was reintroduced in the current Congress as H.R. 2419, The COMBAT PTSD Act.

H.R. 952 would amend title 38, United States Code, to clarify the meaning of "combat with the enemy" for purposes of service-connection of disabilities.

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WILLOW

April 13, 2009, 3:40pm (report abuse)

Why does this bill have an effective date that excludes veterans that have already filed for ptsd compensation and been denied because they could not prove their stressor? What about the Vietnam and Gulf war veterans? My husband was denied because his combat action ribbon was never added to his DD214, an error by the VA. By the time this error was corrected my husband had passed away. He will never receive compensation from the VA and I, as his widow, will never recover from the expenses incurred for his care. ELIMINATE THESE UNJUST EFFECTIVE DATES ON ALL BILLS PERTAINING TO COMPENSATION FOR OUR MEN WHOSE SACRIFICED FOR THIS COUNTRY!

Brett

May 13, 2009, 2:45pm (report abuse)

Until the Army starts requiring every soldier to document every encounter with the enemy, there is no way to quantify stressors. However, as a combat veteran of 3 differnt theaters, I can tell you the stressors are real. Soldiers should be compensated for ANY disability incurred while on active duty. I am glad to see this getting so much attention. I see PTSD becoming an even larger issue in the future as these wars continue. Future Soldiers of this nation will know nothing but war for many years to come.

Some Soldier's Mom

May 19, 2009, 8:33pm (report abuse)

sorry... the VA is becoming an adjunct these days to social security.... people looking for ways to circumvent the system to supplement their income. if you served 40 years ago and you never once ever had a symptom or received treatment for PTSD or any other mental anomaly -- and at age 65 you now want to claim you are disabled by PTSD? not to mention that people can have PTSD for any number of episodes OTHER than combat and the VA should not have to pay for that... it then stresses the VA and causes the problems we have now in getting those with REAL disabilities their treatment and compensation. One serious problem with this whole Combat PTSD Act is that it would require the VA to compensate a veteran just because he/she SAID they had PTSD. enough already.

To Soldiers Mom

May 30, 2009, 1:11pm (report abuse)

Getting approved for PTSD is not that easy. You MUST have been under the care of a doctor and have a confirmed MILITARY related dignoses. Granted there are those who will try and take advantage of the system but for the sake of those who do have military related PTSD this bill must pass AND IT SHOULD INCLUDE ALL VETERANS WHO WERE DENIED PRIOR BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT PROVE THEIR STRESSOR(S).

Broken

June 8, 2009, 12:26am (report abuse)

If a woman is raped in service by some mothers son and has PTSD, she should be compensated. VA comp is not social security, and is not as easy to obtain as SS. The system is set up to deny the claim in most cases. Maybe after you get to experience your child in a lot of pain and then be told to screw off, your perception might change.

SummerTop

June 9, 2009, 9:47pm (report abuse)

I pray this bill passes but must include all veterans who were denied their claims for lack of confirmed stressor. My late husband's DD214 was in error, omitting the combat action ribbon, and it took so long to get the amended 214 that it was too late for him. He died believing the VA didn't care.

Researcher

June 12, 2009, 8:23pm (report abuse)

Documenting a combat stressor for PTSD is usually not that difficult. Available historical information (combat unit records)for U.S. conflicts is pretty extensive for research. However, veterans need to take their time in writing up their stressor information, to ensure that they are helping themselves by providing good information to the researchers.

ptsd sufferer

June 18, 2009, 5:40pm (report abuse)

This bill was started to help all vetrans. The problem is that to many politians talk about war and have never seen it. Most of them would wet themselves if they did. That is coming from all of the vetrans at the Waco P.T.S.D unit who got this bill moveing

vetwidow

July 13, 2009, 10:23pm (report abuse)

FREEDOM isn't FREE

Someone pays for you and me. For those who man the battle line the bugle whispers low,

and freedom has a taste and price the protected never know.

An American soldier may die today protecting our freedom....

It doesn't matter if you think his cause is right or wrong. The ultimate question you must ask yourself is....

"Was I worth his sacrifice?"

"Let me not mourn for the men who have died fighting, but rather let me be glad that such heroes have lived."

Gen George S Patton, 7 Jun

1945

OIF VET

July 18, 2009, 7:32pm (report abuse)

The term "combat with the enemy" needs looked at i have had a claim for my PTSD denied basically because my service records did not indicate i was not in a fire fight with an enemy force. There isnt a front line in this war. mortars and IUDs are the means for the enemy, not firefights.

...

July 30, 2009, 1:53pm (report abuse)

So just how is an intrauterine device going to cause PTSD?

OIF Vet

August 14, 2009, 6:33pm (report abuse)

You know he meant IED. Why be that way?

to some soldiers mom

August 18, 2009, 6:58pm (report abuse)

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING? DO YOU THINK THE VA JUST HANDS OUT MONEY? IF A VET IS NOT PROVEN TO HAVE MILITARY RELATED PTSD THEN HE DOESN'T GET COMP, PERIOD.

AS FOR GETTING IT YEARS LATER, THEY DON'T! THEY ALWAYS HAVE IT, SOMETIMES IT JUST TAKES YEARS FOR IT TO PEAK THUS RENDERING THEM DISABLED.

YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

vet widow

August 24, 2009, 3:20pm (report abuse)

Fw: Secretary Shinseki Moves to Simplify PTSD Compensation Rules - Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

YEA!

http://www1.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=1751

potangent

August 25, 2009, 9:42pm (report abuse)

I was in combat and had numerous documented stressors back in the late 60's. I had "PTSD" but did not want anything on my record that would make me appear to be mentally ill. I had a trade before being drafted and needed to feed four kids and a wife. I continued to work just like when I continued to fight. There were legal interuptions from some jail and prison terms yet my income remained higher than had I chosen service connected disability as a way to survive financially. When my kids grew up, I no longer needed as large an income. I had paid into SS for 35 years just like everyone else. I finally decided to claim what was legally mine. I now draw 100% VA disability and 100% SS disability[that I paid cash money into from age 14.

I like drawing $60,000 tax free dollars every year for fishing and earned every penny of it and more.

The Army starved my wife and first child when I was drafted.THEY CAN'T OVERPAY ME!

1962superfly

August 31, 2009, 12:26am (report abuse)

Potangent, AMEN brother what I say is pass the God Damn Bill, and take care of our troops. Our Government wanted you there to fight loose your life or get crippled or even PTSD this is all PDST in my eyes so the way I see it is the Government owes you every penny they promised you when you signed up. as for the spouse of a fallen vet. she/he needs to be paid in full and then some.

aj rodriguez

September 27, 2009, 8:20pm (report abuse)

my husband suffers from PTSD, the nightmares have put a strain on our marriage. He takes 3 different types of pills just to be able to sleep at night. He has changed into someone I do not know. He goes to counseling once a week. He has been diagnosed with Diabetes and hearing loss dating back to Nam.

We as veterans, yes i consider myself among the vets as I stayed beside him for the 20 years he served his county, need to stand up for what is right. How can a country that gives people money when they have never worked in their lives deny someone who has fought for this country. Do away with the so called social programs that reward people for doing nothing and give that money to the people who are living with this nightmare called PTSD. Congress needs to pass H.R. 952 soon and stop playing around with people's lives. It is not enough that our soldier fought for this country and now they have to fight the VA to get what they are entitled too. Shame on this government.

sewboard

October 21, 2009, 3:03pm (report abuse)

As a divorced/abused person from a "combat vet" I also am a vet. I was counseled as a spouse of a "PTSD VET" at a vet center and found to have my own PTSD by three other events all connected to service time. Sent for VA treatment and by the time someone offered that I apply for sc PTSD it was over 20 years after the event. I fought over 10 years for a sc and ended up with a two year back dated effected date not even back to the first filed date! There was a document asking to date back to date of trauma that was filled out send in and vanished. I filed for wrong effective date, as well as diagnosis vrs extreme depression as my PTSD is not combat related. HR 952 is long overdue, as is my effective date and proper sc termage of disability. The horror I live with due to my event in service keeps me from addressing my health, and fighting for my benifits. Where are the advocates, for us who are unable to stand up and fight for ourselves?

The Corky

November 26, 2009, 11:46pm (report abuse)

Poor thing. Why don't you see if you can find someone who cares? Just another scammer looking to screw someone out of some free money.

Jason B

November 27, 2009, 6:27am (report abuse)

Over my lifetime I have worked with a lot of folks who have reason to complain – the unemployed, the homeless, folks on welfare, terminally ill patients in a hospice. And not one of these groups has the intensity of whining that a bunch of veterans can generate. I really suspect that the veterans whine can be heard in outer space. It is that loud. Why don’t all of you moaning *ssholes take a break and go crawl in a hole someplace. Give the rest of us some time to recuperate from your constant pissing and moaning.

Arizona

January 24, 2010, 12:34am (report abuse)

Many Vietnam Veterans did not even know about PTSD and came home to more abuse from there own American people. Which added to there PTSD. It is time they recieve the help and compensation they deserve. Those who say they should not whine, were never in Vietnam and did not experience what our Soldiers and Marines went through.

This Bill should be Passed for all those who have War related PTSD.

Ariona2

January 26, 2010, 11:24pm (report abuse)

Idon't understand the delay ofthe vote on this bill. It's important to many who served in combat situations who did not have a combat job speciality. It will at least give them a fighting chance in the claims process. There are over 200 pieces of Vet's legislation pending. Deny Deny and wait for them to die.

OIFVET2008

January 28, 2010, 6:37am (report abuse)

Veterans are whiners? Have you looked at how we are screwed by the very system we support? Before you start talking, learn before you judge. I've watched people fall apart because they were turned away at the VA. So anyone here who thinks we get appropriate care is an idiot. Go there. Experience what we do just to ensure you sleep at night. Yet another reason why we question if its worth fighting for your freedom when you do NOT care about us.

OIFVET05-07

January 31, 2010, 9:15am (report abuse)

OIFVET2008 I agree with you 100% if these a$$holes saw even a 1/4 of the sh!t we as vets have had to live through while in a combat zone they would probably sh!t their pants and commit suicide.I question daily why I defended this country so a$$holes like that can treat us the way they do.If you want to bad mouth our vets and those who served to defend you get the h*ll out of my country. There is tons of groups that would love to recruit you to wear a vest.This Bill should be top priority.

Angry vet

February 10, 2010, 9:20am (report abuse)

Jason B I'm a vet I was awarded the CIB an bronze star with valor for some of the firefights I was in. I also saw my friends murdered shot an badly hurt. Who the f*** do u think u are to bad mouth ppl that gave everything so u could run ur sorry mouth. I know I should not get on his level but I would love to show u what I did for a livin over there.

Grunt

February 19, 2010, 2:39am (report abuse)

What a joke. This bill should be called "Free Money for Guys who never saw combat". Another government handout to those who do not deserve it. What a disgrace to actual combat vets with PTSD.

Artillery-10

February 20, 2010, 7:04pm (report abuse)

So what is the deal with this legislation? When would the VA, start informing this legislation. Grunt, you are right, but the VA also denies Combat Veterans their benefits and seen it happen.

PTSD Researcher

March 13, 2010, 4:48pm (report abuse)

I perform PTSD research on behalf of veterans. There is usually plenty of historical information (combat unit records) to perform PTSD research for veterans claims. Verification of the stressor in the great majority of claims can be accomplished. The system in general is good. It helps to keep out those that may not really be suffering from PTSD.

Bill Smitts

March 22, 2010, 2:53pm (report abuse)

Thanks for your words. In the 70's most if not all of these 2010 Vietnam veterans would have denied they had PTSD. In fact many would have bad mouthed PTSD.Thanks for your words. In the 70's most if not all of these 2010 Vietnam veterans would have denied they had PTSD. In fact many would have bad mouthed PTSD.

91 bravo 68-69

April 26, 2010, 4:27pm (report abuse)

was a remf medic at 3rd Field Hoep which had incoming dustoffs nightly. saw much pain and suffering and couldn't save them all. developed fustrating anger and practically been emotional dead since. Do I have PTSD?

TIM

May 10, 2010, 10:22pm (report abuse)

IM A DISABLED GULF WAR VETERAN, EVERYBODY WHO WAS IN MY PLATOON HAS EITHER DIED OR CANNOT EVEN GET OUT OF BED. " REMEMBER, IT MUST BE IN OUR HEADS". WHAT A JOKE. SO THE SORRY-ASS WHO SAYS WERE WHINING, GO BACK IN UR FOOD STAMP LINE AND GET YOUR STAMPS FREE. COME EXPERIENCE COMBAT, YOU WILL BE A DIFFERENT PERSON WHEN YOU SPEND THEM. HATE SORRY ASSES WHO NEVER BEEN THERE, BUT TALK ALLLLL THAT S**T- LIKE A POLITICIAN

The Corky

May 12, 2010, 11:42am (report abuse)

Oh the whine. It hurts the ears having to hear the constant whining sound from a bunch of losers who now want someone else to take responsibility for them. TIM is a good example. He spreads untruth upon untruth, hoping to gain sympathy. So sorry but you scammers are going to get just what you deserve. NOTHING!

wolf_mitchum

July 25, 2010, 12:55pm (report abuse)

now i've heard every thing,1st we have been called potential terrorists,we have been denied what we were promised by the govt.we fought for,our minds have been destroyed by mental illnes,we have been raped by our fellow service men,harassed by our nco's and officers,court martialed for killing the enemy,spit on by our citizens,and now we are whiners!?wtf is wrong with this country?

I have NONE COMBAT PTSD,and all you M****r F***ng idiots that wanna call me a whiner can kiss my army ass,next time they have a war why dont YOU volunteer dumbass?

otishenson

August 4, 2010, 5:30pm (report abuse)

on the constellation cva64,sitting was said,true that.waves taller than any bld ever seen.now duck up ur ass,seeing pilots goining down in the pacific ocean.blown off,a city rocking,have no sleeping habits,what u think about that i could tell ur fat ass,a17 yr kid got blown of the ship in front of me,his dont know what happen to thier son today in 65 when we shut dn.so u mf get screw no greese and i talling with something hugh

oregon

September 29, 2010, 7:50pm (report abuse)

Atomic Demolitions (Cold War Vet)70-73. I am now 61 yrs old with P.T.S.D. in my life. Had it ever since i

was discharged. I was not in direct combat but trained to do Mass Destruction if need be. My team was expendable if used. I was told that i would be monitored the rest of my life for information that was classified. Let us remember those veterans new and old that served but cant say a thing about their mission. Not knowing for a civilian is sometimes best. P.T.S.D. disables you in a very lonely world. Our families are affected and need help to cope. Our troops will need help when they come home for years to come. Visit VA hospital for the rest of the story and volunteer. We are bonded for ever together as we all signed our life to the good old USA. If you never served you will never have the compassion and love for your comrades in harms way. I love you guys out there. You are my family.

old vets wtih PTSD

October 21, 2010, 4:09am (report abuse)

They didn't even have a word for PTSD in Korea. My dad was on the front lines for MONTHS and received his CIB. Because he had a major stroke they denied him PTSD because he was unable to answer beyond yes and no. He died, and I will carry on the fight for his wife of 58 years.

1st Cav Arty ('69)

October 28, 2010, 5:25pm (report abuse)

Really a shame this site lets so many liberals on it. Yes I went to Nam. I did what I was taught and gave some time to this great (well used to be) country. Other countries make it mandatory that you serve. We should do that and shut up all the ones that complain about it. It would make believers out of them for sure, at least the ones that aren't to scared and run away to Canada.

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