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H.R. 3962 would provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending.

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Linda E

November 2, 2009, 12:37pm (report abuse)

I don't know why anyone would be surprised, regarding this watered-down House healthcare bill--this was settled behind closed doors, months ago. This is play-acting, for the American's appeasement

ChuckL

(logged-in user) November 2, 2009, 4:13pm (report abuse)

The fact that the Constitution does NOT grant to congress the power to create or pass this legislation should have been the first and final point. The ridiculous cost should have not even entered the discussion.

Get it right

November 2, 2009, 5:24pm (report abuse)

I wonder just how many perple have a loved one unable to get insurance. I do. Insurance companies rule the country. We no longer have the right to get sick. And because of the insurance companies we cannot afford to get sick. This is a sad situation. Those with money just get more, while those who work daily lose more money by the day. I sit a wonder if I can continue to work as everyone is sick. But work is a necessary thing dispite what happens to those who wish to stay healthy. It is to bad we have to get to some form of regulation so people can be treated and become healthy productive people again.

Robert & Betty Lemke

November 2, 2009, 5:54pm (report abuse)

This health care bill is a farce. Washington needs to get on with more important things like putting people back to work,.Washington is so stupid with spending so much time on this bill that would continue to bankrupt our country.

Stop spending our money & get to work, start earning some of your high salries by solving Americas problems not adding to them.

Gregg Nicholl

November 2, 2009, 9:11pm (report abuse)

Indeed, where in the Constitution of this great land is there a mandate for government to control and administer healthcare? Where in the Constitution is there a mandate for government to take control of private businees. Answer: There is no provision. Don't cite the general welfare clause, that has to do only with the enumerated powers given to a limited government. Look at the context of this section of the Constitution; it pertains not to the general welfare of individuals but the general welfare of the country as an entity.

Betty la chance

November 2, 2009, 9:13pm (report abuse)

The government has no right to rob Americans paychecks! Tax tax tax to the hilt for lazies! Time to revolt over these lying corrupt slimy or how about move out of the country like the corporations have done. Escape the taxes before its too late!

GunnyL

November 3, 2009, 8:40am (report abuse)

Did I see that Honorable and Rangel were used on the same line? I personally don't trust anything that comes from a committee run by Charles Rangel and the Democrats that was done behind closed doors. The fact that they estimate it will lower the deficit shows me that they are using Pelosi Math to accomplish their predictions. In the real world, they are destined to bury the economy of the United States. The only reason they're trying to rush through something that doesn't show any results before 2013 is that they know the American People have awakened and their majorities in the Congress and Senate are going to come to a quick end in 2010.

Bob Galt

November 3, 2009, 1:30pm (report abuse)

There is a website at www.mywritertools.com that has the new Health Bill 3962 in .doc, .rtf and .pdf versions as well as a program, myWordCount, that lets you easily count and list all words and phrases in the document. It also lets you select a word or phrase and easily go to each occurence in the document. You can get the different versions of the bill at http://www.mywritertools.com/congress.asp

Kimberli Hahn

November 3, 2009, 3:27pm (report abuse)

First, I should NOT be force to help fund abortions which is murder! The Health Care reform Bill is an infringement of my rights when the government give themselves access to my bank for eft's or my medical records without my approval, rationing of health care without any kind of an appeals process, would lead to government taking over half of our country’s business sector which is purely scary, the government will once again be setting the wages of doctors (specialists will be paid the same so where is the incentive for a med. student to take on more years of education and debt?), will stain small private employers with more hefty taxes (they are the backbone of our country and represent what is great about America - the American Dream), and on and on. Also, I DO NOT want their National ID Card and I DO NOT want ACORN or Americorp coming to sign me up, period! Lastly, I resent subsidizing union (includes corrupt ACRORN) retirees and community organizers!

Fort Hood Health Bill Hater

November 6, 2009, 5:04am (report abuse)

The shooting at Fort Hood is just a distraction set up to distract from bad press against this Health Bill, I know it's cruel to think it but isnt our 'fearless leader' also a Hater of the US and a closet Muslim himself?

Disgusting

November 7, 2009, 11:06am (report abuse)

The behavior of both parties on the House floor is atrocious! Are people watching this?!

I object!

November 7, 2009, 11:08am (report abuse)

To this socialist government health care takeover!

These people could read the bill

November 7, 2009, 11:17am (report abuse)

in the time it takes to do all this nonsense!

What is going on?

November 7, 2009, 11:18am (report abuse)

ANd who is that oold PRICK telling Republicans they can't talk?

Pass Health Reform

November 7, 2009, 11:37am (report abuse)

Republicans hate the idea that poor people should get health care!

PASS THE BILL NOW!!

You must be kidding

November 7, 2009, 11:58am (report abuse)

CBO says the average cost per family that makes over $102,000 combined will be charge $15,000 a year for H.R. 3962. More than a house note. I don't know many families that can take the "Pelosi punch in-the-gut" of an additional $400 a month in healthcare costs...even if nobody gets sick. Healthcare from private insurers is affordable now....when you have govt running it, you won't have a say when the prices rise(even though they are supposed to represent US). Just name a bill that has lived up to it's promise on cost.....Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare(was supposed to be temporary), on and on. Kill the bill, not the American pocketbook. Since I'm not tied to a party, Dems better look out if Repubs get back control...because they'd be in charge of the healthcare monies then. Hmmmmm. Didn't think about that did you?

Watching the debate

November 7, 2009, 12:26pm (report abuse)

I think the actions of both parties are disgusting. We should vote them all out at the next election - if not sooner! These are the people that are supposed to represent us?! They can barely form sentences!

Miss AMERICAN PIE

November 7, 2009, 2:22pm (report abuse)

KILL THIS BILL ONCE AND FOR ALL!

WEALTH CONFISCATION--T H E F T !!!

MORE TAX AND SPEND AND GOVT CONTROL!!!!!

STOP THE INSANITY!!!!!

K Campos, MD

November 7, 2009, 8:53pm (report abuse)

I have spent 15 years full time working in a public hospital for severely mentally ill patients. About 1/3 were homeless. For them, the tragedy of severe mental illness is only compounded by having to live life like a feral cat.

Many had other physical illnesses untreated such at hypertension, and diabetes and anemia. We are one of the richest nations on Earth, and as such should care about the well-being of all citizens and residents in our Great Nation, not as socialists, but as compassionate, caring, well fed, educated voters. This is an ethical and a moral issue for each voter and his/her God.

bottom line

November 8, 2009, 6:41am (report abuse)

1000 characters isn't enough to make my point. This sux. Bye.

DemsFail

November 8, 2009, 10:37am (report abuse)

Unemployment tops 10% and Pelosi, Obama, and the House Dems think that putting additional requirements and costs on business will help this situation?

I have no interest in sacrificing my health care so pols in Washington can feel good about adding a new, bloated entitlement to the system.

I'll be seeing you Dems at the polls next year.

In the South Unemployed

November 9, 2009, 12:22am (report abuse)

$4874 a year? I have to come up with nearly 5 grand a year!?!? My gosh, that's a lot of money for someone living on an unemployment check. I hope this isn't right. I can't afford that. I'd rather not have health insurance than have that outrageous bill on my unemployed neck.

Windigo

November 9, 2009, 9:04am (report abuse)

The Constitution does not force any sovereign citizen to purchase anything from the government.

This is a violent assault on the American citizen, and those who created, supported, and voted for it should be arrested by military police, charged, imprisoned and tried for treason, starting from the top, Obama.

You'd better start thinking about what happens to you and your family and children when you can't afford this, and they cart you off to jail. They will take your personal property, and put you in FEMA camps. The non-believers need to do some research now. I just questioned a talk show host on this and for the first time he accepted what I was saying is true.

Unemployed and in need of Insurance

November 9, 2009, 10:33am (report abuse)

I support this bill because EVERYONE deserves to get healthcare but have a question. If 10% of Americans are unemployed ... will they increase the unemployment benefits so they can get health insurance? will the mandate apply to them? Will retired people on fixed incomes have to pay and if so how much? I understand there are rebates for low income people so I assume that would answer this question.

MOSTLY WE NEED EVERYONE IN AMERICA TO BE ABLE TO HAVE QUALITY HEALTHCARE AND THE FAT CAT SPECIAL INTEREST INSURANCE COMPANIES WHO ARE ABUSING AND NEGLECTING THEIR CLIENTS HAVE CREATED THIS PROBLEM AND NOW THEY CRY FOUL !

PASS THIS BILL

Calm Down

November 9, 2009, 10:36am (report abuse)

Dear Windigo

Does the Consitution force sovereign citizens to pay taxes? If so why doesn't it support forcing us to pay for health insurance?

open your eyes and do the math

November 9, 2009, 10:43am (report abuse)

The Affordable Health Care for America Act Costs $15,256.35 per family:

sounds expensive but how much would a serious illness cost you? one hellava lot more than $15K. the big picture makes it obvious we cannot afford to pass this up. good thing MOST people "get it".

Jim Delaney

November 9, 2009, 11:00am (report abuse)

We all know that the Act shamelessly and manifestly violates the Constitution, but what person(s) or entity(ies) is/are planning on challenging it in court? Does anyone know? Castigating the perpretators of this willful violation is nice, but at some point the issue must be Constitutionally resolved--and fast!

LG

November 9, 2009, 11:36am (report abuse)

One more tax is being added that is going to the government through so-called "Government Option" : it is called " Health Care Tax". Tha's how I call obligation to pay for health coverage. By the way who said that if you buy health insurance you wll be covered? Did everyone forget that doctors does not accept insurances that does not pay for their services? As well as labs and surgical facilities.Most of the plans now have huge deductibles in and out of network. To go have a surgery in the facility will cost you 1000-1500 out of pocket because you have deductible. Remember Quest labs? They stopped taking many insurances. All I can say is " Good luck to us, all, with this new tax".

sandra felix

November 9, 2009, 12:09pm (report abuse)

They call this affordable? Affordable for the millionaires in Washington but not to the average family especially the the unemployed and fixed income. It seems they are planning to bankrupt us all....gee I can hardly wait to get my GOVERNMENT CHEESE.

ChuckS

November 9, 2009, 12:13pm (report abuse)

This bill is an attention-DEMANDING "joke" at a time when over 10% of America is out of work and joking is a major 'luxury' they can't afford when they can barely afford to eat. IF the gov't truly wanted to "FIX Healthcare" they would focus on _lowering premiums_ instead of allowing ' 'Insurance Companies' ' to guarantee that premiums will continue to rise. FACT = If I have 0 insurance and need an MRI, I can go anywhere and pay $300 - $375 and get one -but- if that MRI Facility finds it can bill an insurance company for that same MRI the insurance co gladly pays 3,275 for what I can get for $350 in CASH. That's what needs =FIXING=

Suzanne Gerard

November 9, 2009, 12:45pm (report abuse)

Would some God of Finance please grant me the goo fortune of owning a business, such as insurance, whose patronization is warranted by the Federal Government which levy a fine against those who choose not. how much does that cost in donations to politicians and their parties? Will all in the House and Senate who have accepted insurance companies and their relatives please rise? WOW! A STANDING OVATION FROM THE POLITICIANS!

Suzanne Gerard

November 9, 2009, 12:56pm (report abuse)

Pardon my lack of proof reading the above. I am a poor typist at best and today is not the best.

It should be 1) good not goo, fortune. 2)How, not how. 3)and finally, it should be; who have accepted donations from insurance companies and insurance related businesses.

Brad Danner

November 9, 2009, 1:47pm (report abuse)

It breaks my heart to think about our founding fathers who were willing to sacrifice their lives for this new country. Now, a mere 233 years later we have completely lost our way. Public servants have given way to self-servants. Public good has given way to personal greed and gain. It's time all red-blooded Americans stand up and take back our country from the politicians, drug lords, terrorists, and illegals. These groups all operate with one goal...to bleed as much life out of the American people as quickly as they can. Publicly run health care is a farse. I'd rather pay my co-insurance, deductibles, and out-of-pocket share than let some out-of-touch politician make my choices for me. Time to throw them all back, from the oval office to the house chamber and start over!

brenda

November 9, 2009, 4:48pm (report abuse)

Insurance companies are hard enough to deal with; govt will be worse. We need health care reform but NOT this. For example, if your income is low enough and you have children under 19, you can get Medicaid. What!?! Don't adults without children get sick!!! My husband is unemployed and I was only able to find partime after losing my job. PUT YOUR TIME AND MONEY INTO THE ECONOMY AND NOT IN PUSHING A BILL AMERICANS DO NOT WANT. If they would put it on the ballot, it would fail. We need to send ALL new people to Washington and get rid of Pelosi and her supporters including the great President.

~d

November 9, 2009, 9:04pm (report abuse)

I know families who don't make as much in a year as the cost for the plan will be....I don't like it, the very idea of being "fined" for not having health insurance leaves a stone in my eye. D O A in the Senate.

Sam Andrew

November 10, 2009, 12:18am (report abuse)

A classic case of bate a switch. Transparency is so far removed and tax-payer abuse is rampant. Can you really trust these lawmakers to make good health care policy? Go into any county hospital to see what the future holds for you and your loved ones.

Wrong way

November 12, 2009, 2:51am (report abuse)

All this is going to do is cause the Insurance companies to raise premiums for everyone else while the Government provides sub standard health care to people. I can't wait to pay for someone else's healthcare. I don't think there's anything this country needs more than another hefty tax on working wages.

Uhhh, while we're at it lets contract all of our overseas and then pay Tariffs on something that should be made here anyway.

This country's getting close to another depression. Tax the Senators that pull their retirement from OUR social security ( which we'll never see) and they never put into...

Hopefully this bill doesn't pass Senate.

Salina Pjetas

November 13, 2009, 9:48am (report abuse)

I say PASS THE HEALTHCARE BILL! I have a disability and I cannot afford healthcare because my disability is considered a pre-existing condition. The company I work for does not have insurance and I cannot even go buy a car now because of my poor credit due to a car accident I had 4 years ago, which costs me $50,000. Who is going to pay that bill? Not me, I work from paycheck to paycheck and I am only an illness away or another accident away from being in more debt.

Uncle Ben

November 18, 2009, 11:48am (report abuse)

Liberals think the Const is anything they want it to be. It is all about control not about the issue. The bigger the govt, the more control.

Jimbo

November 20, 2009, 12:17pm (report abuse)

What i don't like about this healthcare bill, is that they are going making it mandatory like automobile insurance. They want to put you in prison if you don't get covered. And if you don't get insurance, you get penalized 2.5% of your income!!! I would love to get health insurance, but i don't like it the way they put it. If i can get health insurance at a price just like my automobile insurance, i would take it until i find employment. But people like me cannot afford to spend 2,3,4,or 500 dollars a month for health insurance because i wouldn't make enough to cover rent, food, auto repairs, insurance for my car. I can't even find employment cause of bad credit.

concerned in nc

November 21, 2009, 3:57pm (report abuse)

What happened to "for the people by the people"? These politicians are so out of touch with what at least 1/2 of Americans think. They are no longer representing the mass, but are willing to sell out their votes for pet projects- that only pad their pockets. Time for us to take back control of this country and our individual rights! Stand up America- Make your voice heard!!!

Teresa

November 22, 2009, 8:25am (report abuse)

This is only the beginning of the governments take over of your life. If you want this bill to pass, as it is written right now, you are handing over your, your children’s and your grandchildren's right to individual freedom. Do we need "insurance reform"...sure but this should all be done in the free market...not in the hands of the government. The government has done a bang up job taken over our education system and severely dumbing down our society...what would the government gain from a dumb and uninformed society.

Spearfish1

November 23, 2009, 12:45pm (report abuse)

$9,441.51 For a couple what a bargain! I pay $4,856.00 now without the government involved! This plan is OK for the American public but there is no way the politicians will accept it! What's wrong with this picture?

Carlos

November 23, 2009, 10:59pm (report abuse)

Salinas Pjetas I am sorry for your circumstances. What I don't know is how they occurred and who is responsible. But I know that I am not and charity begins at home. An earlier comment said that we are a rich nation... Has anyone looked at the national debt?

nathan

November 27, 2009, 10:12pm (report abuse)

i had a job and healthcare before the mexicans came to town.

now that i have no job and no money they want to throw me in jail because i have no money for the insurance companies.

id say if this passes it will officially be us vs them

David H.

December 11, 2009, 3:34pm (report abuse)

Our elected representative chosen to serve the people decide insted to rule over the people. The Constitution starts with "We The People... " and by the actions of a Progressive Socialist Congress working to enslave the people it is clear we are at a state of war with our elected officials. The weapons in this war will be words and the battles will be won at the ballot box. RISE UP AMERICA AND TAKE BACK YOUR NATION.

Chucky

December 19, 2009, 12:16am (report abuse)

Lots of people with no health insurance will not go to the hospital when they're sick because of not having an health insurance plan. Lots of people are born with illness and don't qualify for health insurance because either can't work because of health issues. People have wrote, Goverment should not get involve in taking care of people's health, there is ups and downs on this. Which one has greater weight to be better? I really don't want Goverment take over of health care, but at the same time, would I have to fight with a multi billion dollar industry if I get cancer and the insurance denies my claim because they say is an pre existing medical condition. It's crazy, really crazy think about it. I told someone before and I will write it, "can't someone please tell me when was the last time the goverment wasn't in control of anything". Don't pass the bill it yet.

Someone in the United States Goverment will come to their senses and eventually will do the right thing for this nation

Kattating

December 19, 2009, 7:30pm (report abuse)

We're done for!

Concerned Tax Payer

December 22, 2009, 6:56pm (report abuse)

I remember when I did not have health care... When I went to the doctor I negotiated. If that not work then I made payments. I can see why people don't want to make payments or be responsible with money. Surly, the government is not. They spend us into oblivian.

cmac

December 24, 2009, 12:41pm (report abuse)

This bill is NOT like auto insurance...You do not have to have auto insurance if you dont drive...That is a choice...this bill gives you no true choice...either have insurance or pay a fine...its not that way with auto insurance...remember you dont have to pay a fine if you dont drive or have a license...you only pay auto insurance if you drive...Not required...this "health" pill will require you to have coverage no matter what,period...nice country we are turning into, freedoms are slowly but surly going away in favor of rich officials instead of rich free marked citizens...which would you rather aspire to be? Obama said we was going to "fundamentally change America" he was not kidding,and this country elected him with this anti Bush hatred...well its changed alright and its only going to get worse...take a stand and at least call and e mail your Representatives and Senators and tell them to kill this bill and vote against it and draft a bill that is good for ALL Americans...

Non-Victim

February 1, 2010, 12:51am (report abuse)

If you think you don't want your insurance company making your health care decisions, try the government... If I lived in China, I could only have one child. If I lived in the UK, I would be dead (the UK does not provde PSA testing and I am a 50 yr old cnacer survivor) When I worked in Ireland, I had to send a 40 year old supervisor back to the states since she got pregnant and there is no pre-natal screening because there are no abortions. Careful what you wish for, you may GET it...

nate

February 23, 2010, 11:42am (report abuse)

i wish the media would call this what it is. a mandate that hands every american over to the insurance companies, subsidies, and fines.

all you get from the media and the president is that it will cover 31million american without ins.

i had insurance when i had a job before i had to compete with a bunch of non taxpaying subcontracting mexicans.

troutnazi

March 9, 2010, 10:38pm (report abuse)

Don't our representatives swear to "preserve, protect and defent the constitution of the United States"?

I know I'm a dumb clod hopper from the midwest but could someone please explain to me where in the constitution it gives the congress or the President the authority to control healthcare, or do many of the things they do.

The passage of "healthcare reform" will give the Government the power, by extension, to controll every aspect of our lives.

As Ben Franklin said "when the people fear the government there is tyrany; when the government fears the people there is liberty"; and to paraphrase...when the people realize they can, through there representatives vote themselves unlimited benefits, there democracy is lost.

ITFIGURES

March 11, 2010, 4:02am (report abuse)

THE UNINNSURED GET FREE HEALTH CARE. TRY IT, GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN A COLD OR SOMETHING SEMI SERIOUS, THEY WON'T TURN YOU AWAY.

Alice

March 21, 2010, 6:23pm (report abuse)

I'd like to know why when only 15% of Americans are for this bill, it's passing. Time to use those votes more wisely, apparently.

jensfamily

March 23, 2010, 11:34am (report abuse)

Try having a family of 6, they say our "average cost" would be 30,000...ummm, we don't even make that much in a year now!! At least my husband works where there is great health coverage (for now) This is a hard call, we need change, but at what cost?

Lochnivar

(logged-in user) March 23, 2010, 11:42am (report abuse)

Disgusted. Absolutely disgusted. Does nobody really understand what this bill means? It means a drastic reduction in our health care quality. How many doctors are going to be willing to be forced to accept lower payments for services? Not being able to deny coverage to high risk individuals will cause prices to skyrocket. Insurance companies aren't/can't absorb the added costs. That means they reduce payment to keep the profits that they are entitled to. Which means that we begin losing doctors who refuse to be paid crap. Which means our level of care will plummet.

I can't believe that anybody thinks that this is a good thing.

America isn't about serving the individual. It's about the individual making decisions that affect themselves. I'm sorry about those who can't get health insurance. But, I have my own family to worry about and this bill severely affects my family negatively. For the sake of a few million, this bill punishes hundreds of millions.

To Lochnivar

March 24, 2010, 7:54am (report abuse)

Do you know how many doctors are already forced to accept reduced payment because insurance companies make them....otherwise they wont get paid by insurance companies and most patients cant afford to pay outright......think about it....

judyevitch

(logged-in user) March 25, 2010, 7:18pm (report abuse)

just another note: The native americans loose their land to our ancestors...now our gov generously gives them a minute pittance to keep some of it. Now they are going to take away their jobs as well. So now what will our Gov give them for taking away their living....another minute pittance? Only in America!!!!!

pa unemployment

March 26, 2010, 12:55pm (report abuse)

I WILL NOT PURCHAS INSURENCE , I WILL NOT PAY A FINE ... I WILL GO TO JAIL. IT IS UNCONSTUTIONAL ..TO FORCE PEOPLE TO PAY FOR NOT HAVING INSURENCE AND FINE THEM !!and if you people let the GOV > CONTROLL THIS, well that is going to be on your heads

jachle

March 28, 2010, 2:22pm (report abuse)

insurance companies dont rule this country, big pharma does. people have the right to live a healthy lifestyle to avoid getting sick, and if they do get sick they have the right to be intellegent with their money and save for good insurance. in a capitalistic society competing companies try to make the best product and sell it for the least amount of money so that more people will go to them. cheap universal healthcare will rob our system of incentive to make good products and to render good services. if your truely working like you say you are, you need to reconsider getting that expensive car or tv and save it for good insurance. if you think their rates are too high, find another one. if they're all too high, organize a boycott. take more responsibility for your own life. dont just sit back and complain until someone gives it to you. thats what those people outside of walmart do.

Listener in Dayton

March 30, 2010, 5:21pm (report abuse)

Section 5210 of the Health Care Bill authorizes the President to create two domestic armies called "Commissioned Corps" and the "Ready Reserve Corps". The soldiers of these armies are "appointed" by the President with out regard to civil service requirements, and he can compensate them however he chooses. The section spells out the purpose of these armies, but does not limit the powers of the president over them. For instance, "underserved areas" could mean he could send special troops into Catholic hospitals to perform elective abortions when the doctors there refuse, or force medical care services onto the Amish. The new corps could also be used to restrict the liberties of opposing citizens who might be deemed a "threat" by virtue of what a "public health mission" or a "national emergency" is interpreted to be. Warrant Officers do not have to be commissioned, nor their specific duties be made known. Their qualifications determined at the President's pleasure. God help us.

karyaktus

July 20, 2010, 8:07am (report abuse)

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