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H.R. 333, The Disabled Veterans Tax Termination Act (78 comments ↓ | 3 wiki edits: view article ↓)

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  • This bill, or a similar bill, was reintroduced in the current Congress as H.R. 333, The Disabled Veterans Tax Termination Act.

H.R. 333 would amend title 10, United States Code, to permit retired members of the Armed Forces who have a service-connected disability rated less than 50 percent to receive concurrent payment of both retired pay and veterans' disability compensation, to eliminate the phase-in period for concurrent receipt, to extend eligibility for concurrent receipt to chapter 61 disability retirees with less than 20 years of service.

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Steve H USMC ret.

January 12, 2009, 12:27am (report abuse)

I am Chapter 61 medically retired Marine Vietnam Veteran. Rep. Marshall is a champion for all Veterans. He pushes HR 333 every year and it gets a lot of co-sponsors and then die's off. I am so tired of these gutless wonders in congress who will not pass this law because of money. This because of a 100 year old law that we are not getting our money. I was approved for CRSC because of NDAA 2008 that Pres. Bush signed. 100% combat injuries and I get $138 a month because I stepped on a land mine and had a career of three years in the Marine Corps. I was retired by no choice of my own. My retirement pay says I should get $805 per month plus money for 4 dependants. But because of my years of service I am getting penalized. This is so discrimatory it makes me sick. They have a formula on top of the formula that I given when I was medically retired, just to save money. Congress needs to quit peacemealing legislation and pass HR 333. I want my retirement pay that I know I earned.

Jim

January 23, 2009, 5:59pm (report abuse)

We have the BEST non-volunteer military in the world!!! When an individual get injured, he/she should get full compensation for their service related injuries, PERIOD!!!

mark USN ret

January 27, 2009, 6:16pm (report abuse)

H.R. 33 will drop dead at the end of the 111 congress and congress will take a 24% increase in there income just like every year.

the problem is they get paid even if they do a bad job, i say stop paying congress until the country is back on its feet

Retired Ssg. USA

January 27, 2009, 9:18pm (report abuse)

If the people in our government got treated as the Military!the bill would have passed long ago just like their yearly pay raises. Obama says change lets see him change a 100 year old injusticed and let us draw our retirement and disability with out the off set and do it in 2009 for all retired veterans

napavet

February 3, 2009, 1:27am (report abuse)

As long as the Democrat's are giving money away on the bailout this is the perfect time to pass full Concurrent Receipt for all disabled retirees and HR 333. I don't see one thing in the Stimulus Bill for Veterans. So I'm not holding my breath. Even the Illegal Aliens will be paid $500 for singles and $1000 for couples as long as they have ss#. We serve our country and there buying votes to illegal aliens. There lining up at the border. $300 million to CDC, sex diseases and condoms. I can tell you we are really a high priority to this administration. I hope if you voted for Mr. Obama, that you knew this would happen. When a Democrat's are in control. All veterans need to write and call your legislators and pound them for not including us in anything. If the economy stays bad, I don't see us getting much of anything anymore.

It's really a bad situation for all of us. Besides Rep. Marshall and a few others, these gutless wonders don't care.

af med retired

February 12, 2009, 7:42pm (report abuse)

I was recently medically retired with 16.6 years of service. I had just reenlisted the previous year. I planned on finishing my 20 years, until I was told by my mulitple doctors that I could no longer run, walk for over 2 hours at a time, work at a desk without pain in my back, due to compartment syndrome and other complications from surgeries. I was just informed that I only get 70% VA disability and no retirement pay because I didn't finish my 20 years. How is this justified when it was not my choice to stop serving? With the economy in the crapper and being disabled where no one will hire us, how can we pay our bills?! I guess its a good thing there are homeless shelters. Wake up Congress! We are suffering more than in pain.

Bill

February 20, 2009, 2:22pm (report abuse)

I served in the Navy for 30 years. When I retired I was rated at 30 percent disability. Every penny of my disability compensation is subtracted from my retirement. I think it is outrageous that I pay my own disability. If I had gotten out and not retired from the Navy, I could have retired from a civilian government job and draw both my full government retirement and Navy disability. Why am I a second class citizen because I retired from the Armed Forces?

KathyB

February 24, 2009, 3:21pm (report abuse)

It\'s bad business to let employees vote themselves a pay raise. How about the GAO running up a report on it every year and then a national referendum on whether they deserve a raise?

Gary D

February 24, 2009, 3:27pm (report abuse)

I was disabled in 1973, given a disacharge and labled unfit for military duty.

I was given an option then, I could either take military disability or VA disability but not both. I really don\'t understand how some of you seem to be able to qualify for both.

Walt T

February 28, 2009, 8:43pm (report abuse)

As with anything related to the government, change comes slowly. The inequities of the military medical retirement / VA disability payments are 100 years over due correction. The first small step would be to remove the “chapter 61”, reduction/offset. Anyone authorized to receive a military medical retirement should receive it in full and any VA disability payments, in full, with out any reductions or adjustments .

Retired SSG, USA

March 1, 2009, 9:43am (report abuse)

Over 12 years in the Army, hurt back really bad...I had over five surgeries, Army retired me...but I receive no retired pay, it's all taken away from the VA, how is that fair? Give the veterans what they deserve and show us some respect, we keep our country safe.

Gary Z

March 4, 2009, 10:42am (report abuse)

I retired 20 years from the Army/Navy and I am also 30% disabled through the VA. I always felt that it was unfair that I had to surrender back my retirement pay for my VA disability. However, over the last 15years I have learned to accept it. How excited I was to hear from my brother-in-law (50% VA disabled and 28 years service) that the retired/VA disabled issue was being addressed and the wrong was going to finally be corrected. Boy! What a’ kick in the teeth it was, to find out that it was only deemed unfair for “retired personnel with 50% or higher disability”. The rest of us (10%-40%) just have to get over it and be second-class. But I must humbly add; I would sacrifice the part of H.R.333 that would benefit me for those of you that had to retire before your 20 because of injury. You people are the real vets whom are not getting a fair break and deserve this bill to get passed.

Retired In Jacksonville

March 6, 2009, 9:47am (report abuse)

The simple rule of thumb is that all retired disabled veterans deserve concurrent receipt of retirement and military pay. The Bush administration created classes of veterans to avoid paying to all veterans. The combat related injury category was created and thus began the worthy or not worthy argument for disabled veterans. The chapter 61 retirees will be taken care of in the 2010 budget submitted for the defense department. That leaves the over 400,000 retired disabled veterans still paying for their own disability. There have been small victories in the battle for concurrent receipt, but the true enemies of this issue have been the veteran service organizations themselves. Obama in a speech to the VFW prior to his winning the election stated that he would end the veterans disability tax as one of his first priorities if elected. We already see that this promise has been broken, since only Chapter 61 retirees are covered in the 2010 NDAA. The under 50% disabled left out again.

Dogboyusmc

March 11, 2009, 10:23pm (report abuse)

I was retired with 18 years of service on 100% disability, I was a 30 year man. Unfortunatley it was taken away at no fault of my own. I get my disability but it is dificult to maintain employment for extended periods of time, it is not fair that I am limited to my income due to a service conected disability. I do not think what I am asking is unfair. I have writen my Congressman Ed Pastor and all he tells me that they did the best they could but he fails to suport H.R. 333. What a shame. I still hope.

Superman

March 16, 2009, 9:22pm (report abuse)

Disabled 1986 13 years 11months on a six year burst, Chapter 61, cannot prove combat related, was IU at 100%,but DFAS says not IU, contacted VA, they say for VA yes , but no for DFAS!

drlChapter61

March 17, 2009, 12:12am (report abuse)

Ive been waiting since 1984. I cant work because of Service Connection Disabilities.100% SSD thank God! I had to hire a lawyer to get myself above 50%, still waiting, Im hopefull for IU, I know we all need some prayers!!!

Peggy McGilligan

March 21, 2009, 1:00am (report abuse)

Since the players behind the National Service Bill lean hard left, it's actually the old political commissar system. A commissar was a Communist party official. And guess what the Democrats have in store for America? Political officers: commissars.

The title Commissar refers to either a People’s Commissar (government), or a Political Commissar (military). In the USSR, the Institute of Political Commissars was established to control the military. The state security organizations, KGB, etc., and or the People’s Commissars controlled the Soviet Army, together with the entire Soviet State.

Compulsory Public Service is the future. Anti-Marxist sentiment will be smashed; all men shall be judged politically. But we first require a state organ, an apparatus with which to train the political functionaries who will hold coequal rank and authority. Welcome comrade to Hillary’s National Public Service Academy. Welcome to the commissar system; it’s here: http://theseedsof9-11.com

JLGO

March 25, 2009, 2:34pm (report abuse)

I believe there is going to be a bill pass by January 2010. For sure it will be the h.r.303. All of you chapter 61 retirees with a least 50% Va rated SERVICE CONNECTED will get their retired check.

Google it!

Ed GyGSgt USMC retired

March 26, 2009, 7:00am (report abuse)

Both HR303 and HR333 are addressing the point that retired military vets are paying for our own retirement. I am 40 % disabled and they take it all out of my own retirement. I could of done 4 years in the military and got out with 40% and be making just about what I am making now. I served my country faithfully for 21 years to only be toyed with thhis 50% rule. What will it take to get this 100 year old bill revised? Does any one see this bill actually getting passed?

JLGO

March 26, 2009, 2:10pm (report abuse)

Ed GyGSgt USMC retired, google it, I believe that the one that is gona get passed next year is h.r.303 and its gona be effective on January 1st 2010. Chapter 61 veterans with a least 50% service connection will also see their retirement, I believe is going to be the service time formula the DOD uses. If your are under 50% SC you might not get it.

This is in the FY 2010 Budget.

USDR

March 29, 2009, 3:45pm (report abuse)

If you want to send a message to urge your Representative to support HR 333 try this link http://capwiz.com/usdr/issues/alert/?alertid=12406456&type=CO

If you want to join discussion group concerning Chapter 61 Disabled Retirees , try this link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chapter61DisabledRetirees/

BTW, 2/3 of disabled retirees are denied CRDP simply because they have less than 50% disability or less than 20 years of service. On the other hand, if the disability is combat related, they can apply for CRSC.

Chapter 61 site

March 29, 2009, 5:46pm (report abuse)

The above Chapter 61 Disabled Retirees link is more about the neo-con point of view then anything if you have a liberal bone in your body don't bother with this site.

RedLeg

(logged-in user) March 29, 2009, 7:58pm (report abuse)

Excuse me, we have helped quite a few Chapter 61 victims through the process. Further I post legislative alerts there for the participants to send to their elected officials on Chapter 61 issues to include urging their support for HR 333. For those with combat-related disabilities I have helped more than just a few qualify for CRSC.

jack virgin, yn1, usn, retired

March 31, 2009, 12:46pm (report abuse)

i also am being screwed by the disabled veterans tax. i get 30 percent disability from the va and spent 14 years active and 6.5 years active reserve. i am 61 years old and totally bedridden.i get about 1200 retirement pay, and they deduct the 421 per month i get from the va. really b.s. for spending your life in the military. i hope president obama does something for us, as the 421 would not mean a lot to most people, but it would allow my family to live with some dignity. my wife, cant even work as she has to take care of me hello all you guys/women out there. good luck to us. please president obama, help us.

D.C. Liberty

April 1, 2009, 1:46am (report abuse)

Do not belive you are going to improve your monitary posistion with any of this legistation, it is spicifically written to take money away from certain groups. Obama profess transparency, "this is a scam to see just how DOD operates. All veterans should prepare to be cheated out of money, there is no intention to move us ahead... The V.A. is the dumping ground for DOD "IT always has been and "IT" always will be, don't get sucked into this money game for a few dollars, their minipulation is to extract "RIGHTS" and congress dose with every new piece of legistation.Just take a little time to research history, the facts are there, this game has been run on veterans before, AND GUESS WHAT IT IS HERE AGAIN...

GAL

April 6, 2009, 9:37pm (report abuse)

G.A. Lokken

As a runner in the Navy I had to eventually have both feet operated on. During my first foot surgery I had my heart shut down. With in a year and a half I had open heart surgery to fix my heart problem, due to the hart being shut down. At retirement (20 years) I also had and have two lateral miniscus tares in my knee. You will under stand that I'm not letting any one close to my knee with a knife. After falling in-between the dock and a truck at work when my right knee collapsed and getting the short end at work. Then sending all of the paper work to the VA and being told you are getting old, that is what happens I'm at 40% and the VA will not get off of that number. I just think that all 20 plus year retires should qualify for RPRA from up 20%.

K. Miller

April 6, 2009, 9:54pm (report abuse)

Isnt it interesting that they have split us up this way? 20 years, not 20, less than 50%, 100%, Chap 61, combat related, viet nam,or not , Gulf War, 9-11, Iraq, ect. Its a load of crap. We are veterans, All of Us whether volunteer, drafted, war non war, injured, illness, it doesnt matter. We should all of us refuse to let them put us in various boxes.We are ret mil. We earned each and every dollar of that retirement Now its time for this government to pay us our retirement. We deserve it. Each of you deserve it, and you know it. We took up the mantle of a patriot, and now they are telling us that only some of us are worthy? What a load of crap. I want my retirement now, all of it, no offset to anything, or any other program. OR you can let them keep us apart, squriming in our own fluids until we die.

C.Reynolds

April 15, 2009, 12:53pm (report abuse)

I am completely confused. My husband has been active duty Army for almost 21 years. Recently they have asked him if he wants to retire or go through an MEB. He suffered a stroke at the age of 35 (med induced) foot, arm and back surgery. He sleeps on a c-pap machine and has PTSD. Q Should we take retirment or allow them to send him to a board and recieve a medical retirement? Is it true that VA will make you surrend your military retirement in order to draw concurrent receipt even after 20 years of service? Help- Nobody is talking. I don't trust the system the base has set up for us to utilize. In my opinion, they are only looking out for Uncle Sam..

Willis

April 16, 2009, 7:48am (report abuse)

To: C. Reynolds

I retired from the Navy after 30 years of service and was rated at 30 percent disability from the VA. All of that is subtracted from my retirement. Retirees rated at 50 percent or higher can get both disability and retirement. I would take the retirement and apply for disability after I retired. Make sure all medical conditions are documented prior to retirement. Make a complete copy of your medical record prior to leaving active duty. Apply for disability after you retire. The way it sounds, he should be rated at higher than 50 percent. I am by no means an expert. I suggest going to website www.vawatchdog.org. On the left of the web page is "page links" Open the link to Jim Strickland and send him your question. He provides outstanding advice. Good luck. Bill

C.Reynolds

April 16, 2009, 12:54pm (report abuse)

Thank-You Bill for your service to our country and I took your advice and I have sent Mr. Strickland an e-mail.

disabled Marine

April 20, 2009, 9:56am (report abuse)

It could be worse - I was medically discharged just a month before the current GI bill went into effect, and 11 months later, the existing GI bill expired, so I didn't even get my GI BIll benefits. 12 years, and all I get now is a free driver's license?? UNGRATEFUL NATION!

Ted6869

April 23, 2009, 8:36pm (report abuse)

Ok what ever happened to this bill and all the others like it...

I am retired US Navy 22 1/2 years and 40% disabled.. One of my questions is that will I get all my back pay paided to me and will it be pre taxed??

DogboyUSMC

April 24, 2009, 10:19am (report abuse)

Ted6868,

First,ask the VA to reconsider your finding to get it bumped to 50%, second, at 22.5 years, why have you not applied for your CRDP/CRSC? CRDP=taxable, CRSC=Non-taxable)as far as back pay? I think not. Good luck. If I can provide more info, USMCRETIRED@COX.NET

JLGO

April 24, 2009, 2:15pm (report abuse)

I was medically retired from service with less than 20 years, served as light infantry for 8 years before my kidneys failed. H.R.333 is the better one but unfortunately h.r.303 is the one that is going to pass, I've searched and googled at everything that Obama and the other public servants are requesting for the 2010 budget proposal. It looks to me that the one that is going to be law is h.r.303. So who ever is chapter 61 as me, go get your VA rating at 50% service connected. I know its hard not to complaint, but stop complaining. Mostly all of this politians that are not doing anything about it are only in office because of us, so next time we vote we get them ones that are doing nothing out of their duties and elect someone that we know is going to be there for us.

JR

(logged-in user) April 24, 2009, 5:27pm (report abuse)

I'm not sure either one will actually make it, regardless of what the budget request had in it. The wording in the budget is different, depending on where you look. Regardless, as stated above H.R. 333 is the better of the bills as it is inclusive of all veterans, not just one group or the other.

Rwagz

April 27, 2009, 4:18am (report abuse)

I agree with K. Miller about all of us being divided into different groups. I'm retired with 21 years in the AF and now work as a railroad engineer for a company that doesn't want to see just one union. With two different unions they can have us fight against each other just like the polititians are doing to us with the wording in these bills. We all need to fight together just like when we were in and write letters, make phone calls, send emails, etc... Keep up the fight as those that didn't serve probably won't!

JR

(logged-in user) April 27, 2009, 9:00am (report abuse)

I fully support this bill. I am a little concerned that the title really does not show the real intent and may cause some who don't bother to read it to be against it.

Mary A

April 29, 2009, 11:27am (report abuse)

As a civilian, I would like to day THANK YOU for all your service. I know my freedom is because of your sacrifice and the sacrifice of those who are not hear to write why supporting our Veterans important.

smitty

May 4, 2009, 8:37am (report abuse)

So if these FY2010 proposals pass. When does it actually take effect? When do we actually see the money?

JLGO

May 4, 2009, 5:31pm (report abuse)

I think that the proposal is in he President Obama's FY2010 budget request. I thought that it was the h.r.303 at first because the h.r.303 is similar to the one President Obama's proposing. I think that is going to be effective 1/1/2010. If either 303 or 333 pases is gona be retro. retroactive

MartyP

May 15, 2009, 2:19pm (report abuse)

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2009/05/military_concurrentreceipt_chapter61_051509w/

Great news for now!

Retired In Jacksonville

May 24, 2009, 11:23am (report abuse)

This bill is more important since Obama only includes Chapter 61 folks in his 2010 Budget Request. The Obama folks stated it would take 45 billion to cover all for concurrent receipt, when in fact the VDBC web site states it would take only 19.26 billion to cover all of the 450,000 retired disabled veterans under 50% disabled over a ten year period. That is less than two billion a year. When this administration says it is pro veteran one had better think twice. Write your members of congress and ask them to support this legislation and point out that the Obama administration is cooking the figures and misrepresenting the 10-40% group of veterans as a larger cost burden than they actually represent. Seems this administration is more bent on the appearance of support rather than actual support for veterans. Looking for a cheap way out. Read the latest Tom Philpott article for the specifics. Obama folks do not support veterans in this issue they could at least get their facts correct.

WS

May 28, 2009, 4:53pm (report abuse)

THE CONGRESS CAN FIND BILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND BILLIONS, FOR PEOPLE WHO NEVER HAVE, AND NEVER WILL, BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS... MEDICAID, SECTION 8 HOUSING, WELFARE PAYMENTS, FOOD STAMPS, GRANTS FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN... THEY GET THEIR NAILS DONE, HAIR DONE, HAVE CELL PHONES AND KNOW THE TAXPAYERS WILL FOOT THE BILL... THEY HAVE TONS OF BABIES AND ARE REMINDED NOT TO MARRY... LIVE WITH YOUR BOYFRIENDS AND JUST "GAME" THE SYSTEM.. VETERANS ARE LEFT LIKE PANTING DOGS, SEARCHING FOR A WATER BOWL... WE DON'T MARCH ON WASHINGTON.. WE DON'T THREATEN "CIVIL UNREST"... WE ARE DECENT CITIZENS... FIND THE MONEY AND STOP WITH THE CIRCUS MUSIC AND PHONY POSTURING... DON'T PROPOSE LEGISLATION YOU KNOW WILL NEVER PASS, JUST SO YOU CAN SAY, "WE TRIED", VOTE FOR ME AGAIN!!! STOP THE NONSENSE.. CONCURRENT RECEIPT FOR ALL, NOW... NO CAVEATS... PROVE TO US, YOU'RE NOT "A CLOWN SHOW IN SUITS".. I WON'T HOLD MY BREATH..

Bernard A.

May 29, 2009, 11:21am (report abuse)

Retired USAF 20years, 40% disabled. I try to send letters to congress and any one I can to end the concurrent reciept for all veterans. It is not fair to pick in choose. The gov't is constantly ripping off who they choose. I will continue to fight. This issue is really impportant and will make a difference in veterans lifes all over. We all must continue to pull together. I will be happy for the Chp 61 Vets if they get it. They served just like us, Everyones degrees of injury are different. That does not matter we all still fuaught for this country.

Boonie

June 2, 2009, 5:06pm (report abuse)

Medically retired 19 years 7 months 24 days with 50% disability. I am now 100% unemployable at 70% disability. No duel comp since I did not do 20 years, no dual comp since I am more than 50% disabled. Typical shaft form the government.

Billions of dollars to the rich who have done nothing to help keep this country free. It is time for Veterans to get what they have earned and deserve which is a lot more than they are getting now.

burrnavyvet

June 23, 2009, 4:38pm (report abuse)

A chapter 61 ret. With over 700 billion in TARP funds,700 billion in Stimilus funds. Billions in aid to AIG and the Automakers, Yet they will say they were not be able to find the funds to cover CRDP, TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR

MartyP

June 23, 2009, 10:01pm (report abuse)

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2009/06/military_concurrentreceipt_chapter61_062309w/

Never give up hope! The fact that this is a possibility is light years ahead compared to the era when my dad returned from war. For those who served shall not be forgotten. Thank you for your service and for most of you "Welcome home"! It is time for a new era.

rmad

June 26, 2009, 5:17pm (report abuse)

I retired from the USMC in Jan. 1969. I lost the use of both my hands to a booby-trap, plus a wound to lower back. Less than two years in the Marines. I was 18 when wounded. I just sort of dropped out of life. I'm 60 now, have no idea what the heck any of this is about... and thanks to anyone that tries making a fair deal to our wounded.

F15E Zulu

June 30, 2009, 7:41pm (report abuse)

It is my understanding that the Congress ruled on CRDP (Chapters 61 veterans with less that 20 years). in late June 2009 and sent it on to the Senate. Is that correct and when, perhaps, is a final ruling due.

Bill Starcher

July 9, 2009, 9:16pm (report abuse)

Politicians are just jerking are chains. Veterans with under 20 years service who are 100 percent service disabled have no voice amoung our government. Every person that could help us finds some other issue that is more important than veterans. I am sick of being treated like day old trash. Someone needs to help sick and tired veterans with earning a decent living for our sacrifices. I did not choose to become disabled, the Navy chose that for me. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THOSE IT INJURES! Give us at least equal pay with our peers.

Michael Arrowhead

September 1, 2009, 2:09pm (report abuse)

Being medically retired after 16.5yrs i find it truly an unfair deservice how our govt treats veterans. Perhaps we need to tap into their safety nest, so they get to experiece the lack of everday neccessities we vets do without.

jack virgin, yn1, usn, retired

September 3, 2009, 2:47pm (report abuse)

i sent an e mail to senators durbin and harry reid asking them to continue to back all of us disabled veterans, and not to let classes break us into groups. i said that we earned the retirement. i also wrote an e mail to president obama, asking him to find the money in his budget to give us all our pay and not make us disabled veterans pay for the bad economy. we have already earned it.please everybody write to the politicians so they know we have a voice.

MartyP

October 9, 2009, 3:23pm (report abuse)

Wow! Should we be suprised. Not!

"Legion slams Congress on concurrent receipt."

**Go to Air Force Times -displays the entire article.** I hope everyone got their car upgraded with cash for clunkers, becuase you will not see any funding for concurrent receipt. I think AIG should fund it.

C. Thompson

November 15, 2009, 2:38pm (report abuse)

The VA?? I have been on the merry go-round for several years figthting for compensaton from VA and their examinations. I understand that they have a bunch of yahoos that rubber stamp our requests with no medical training what so ever. they know nothing. The examiners at the PAC, not reading your primary doctors reports where they have treated make a decision that you are not qualified for compensation. My examination for neuropathy and other Agent Orange, Diabetes related diseases was a five minute exam with a ball point pen touching me in different places, a dull touch or not. I for one drafting a letter to my Senator, The IG for Veterans Affairs in Atlanta, and the DAV for help. One request for heart has been, June 2007 after many exams, still nothing. After 22 years, Airborne all the way we deserve better from the VA.

MAJOR PAUL LILLING (USAF-RET)

November 20, 2009, 10:27pm (report abuse)

Ret. Mar 77'with 21+yrs VA sc numerous injuries disabilities at 40%. Later on 70%,then 100% then back to 70%. I wonder what would happen to those men and women considering a career if they knew that, if sc injured, that their earnned, honorable, dedicated service compensation would be offset by their sc injuries. Full disclosure before and during service. The offset is immoral, unfair, disgraceful and fraudulent!

Jason B

November 27, 2009, 1:29am (report abuse)

Over my lifetime I have worked with a lot of folks who have reason to complain – the unemployed, the homeless, folks on welfare, terminally ill patients in a hospice. And not one of these groups has the intensity of whining that a bunch of veterans can generate. I really suspect that the veterans whine can be heard in outer space. It is that loud. Why don’t all of you moaning *ssholes take a break and go crawl in a hole someplace. Give the rest of us some time to recuperate from your constant pissing and moaning.

melchor Quitoriano

December 4, 2009, 2:57pm (report abuse)

medically retired in September 07 due to massive stroke suffered while on Active duty in April 2007, totaly and permanently disabled. what this means in actual money total. total time in service, 20 years 11 months all active. r/ Chief Quitoriano

TP

December 4, 2009, 4:30pm (report abuse)

100% Service Connected VA Disabled with only 13 years of service.

It sounds like Jason B is employed outside of his VA disability (assuming). Pain, injuries, and suffering is not the "quality of life" of choice. Jason B, hope your not living in pain daily. Because the moaning you here on my side is not from not getting more compensation, it is from living with constant pain. Hope you have fun at work today and enjoy running around playing with your kids.

333C

January 7, 2010, 2:43am (report abuse)

100% Service Connected VA Disability with 10 1/2 years and three days service.

I also had a massive stroke (1987) but I was going back Active after years in the reserves. I was Medically/Forced to retire

RetiredYoung

January 13, 2010, 7:08pm (report abuse)

Has anyone heard anything new for 2010 Congress? We'll probably be told a new and insulting reason Chapter 61 veterans do not deserve our EArned military retirement plus our paltry VA disability

333C

January 21, 2010, 6:01pm (report abuse)

Lets resind the exorbitant House and Senate Disability Pay and retirement(20 years or no retirement or a different percentage/year in office, something similar to the military.). It won't pay for Concurrent Receipt but it would be a start and a good faith gesture on their part.

DaleA

February 2, 2010, 3:55pm (report abuse)

I don't think that JasonB ever served in the military and made sacrifices for his country, his family and his own health. It is crap talk like that has the real men and women who wanted to stay in the military and honor their country with their service that leaves us high and dry without the money we all deserve. I pay every day with the pain and my problems breathing from exposures. If I retired from a civilian job I would be receiving disability and retirement. Why can't congress do the same for those of us who kept America safe and free?

melchor Quitoriano

February 6, 2010, 11:15am (report abuse)

our beggings need to be heard by all this idiots who are in power. this is bulls**t. start from the president, if s**t rolls downhill like we said. Chapter 61 retirees for all of us yes.

Retired In Jacksonville

February 13, 2010, 11:10am (report abuse)

The Obama Administration says it would take 45 billion to cover veterans over twenty years in the under 50% range. The VDBC report says the cost would be 19.26 billion. A report from the CBO says it would take 29 billion to cover Chapter 61 folks, and the 450,000 retired veterans under 50% disabled who are currently subjected to the veterans disability tax. Does anyone wonder where the difference in figures comes from? The answer lies in this administration finding itself in difficult situation having made a campaign promise to end the disabled veterans tax. The administration chose to overstate the cost of concurrent receipt to 45 billion, and then state they would help chapter 61 retirees, which were not even previously considered, because it only cost 5.4 billion. Now the administration figures they can claim that the kept their promise, when all thinking folks know it is just political game, calculated to achieve the maximum effect of giving the appearance of supporting vets.

PG74

March 4, 2010, 6:34am (report abuse)

Jason B, it is (***hole) Vets like us that protect your freedom of expressions. So lighten up and show some respect.

Canon36

April 28, 2010, 8:45pm (report abuse)

I agree with most of the Vets. Yes, I will continue to moan about concurrent reciept until it is in my check, no matter whether anyone agrees or not. Congress and the President know that the Vets should have this concurrent reciept, they just supposedly can't find the funding. They really need to work harder. Some Vets really need the money, me included. The disability should have nothing to to with the retired check that was earned from service. COngress made it that way to avoid cost, so they created the rule. Injustice won't be righted until all Vets are getting concurrent receipt.

PVT Wiley

June 15, 2010, 4:29pm (report abuse)

Well most of the H.R.333 will help most of the chapter 61 vets. The vets that were sent to war and were wounded with about 2 years of service will get about $60 extra a month, that is because the pay will change to Basic pay X 2.5% X years of service. It sucks when the formula change to this one if this passes.

Sulaw

June 17, 2010, 11:45pm (report abuse)

Well I was forced to retire after 51 weeks active duty. I retired as an E4 because I no longer qualified for a comission as an officer Retired 1980 on TDRL I have never received a dime of my Guranteed retirement. After a 2 year battle with VA I was awarded 100% 1985 Navy retired me at 80% SC disabled I will never get a dime. cuz my active service is less than a year

5thmarines

(logged-in user) June 24, 2010, 1:59pm (report abuse)

Hey all you with 100%, get off your ass and call your senator and congressman. Tell them to support H.R. 333. Give this bill number to your mom, dad, grandma, aunt, uncle, brother, sister, your in-laws or out laws. Lets get off our asses and take Hill 333. Get some! Makes these calls!

TIRED Sam

USMC Retired

5thmarines

(logged-in user) June 24, 2010, 2:02pm (report abuse)

I am a (CRSC) can't remder service or care 61 VET. My CRSC is $11 a month. Golly Gee, what am I going to do with all that money? CRSC was a dog and pony show. As disabled combat veterans, give us what we have earned, OUR RETIREMENT. No more bulls**t legislation. No more CRSC bullsh@t!

Sam

USMC

Retired

Bill S.

August 21, 2010, 9:29pm (report abuse)

I was injurred just after my commissioning 6 weeks into flight school. I am 100% disabled and am not being compensated for my education level. To be denied my retirement pay from the Navy just lets them get away with hurting people. I earned retirement pay through my suffering. I am glad you people with 20 years service made it without being injurred before the 20 year mark but you need to let us disabled veterans with fewer than 20 years to be compensated at an education level of benefits. I did not choose to be injurred, the Navy chose that for me by being irresponible and having no legal ramifications for their actions.

Poor Bill S.

September 1, 2010, 11:31pm (report abuse)

Poor guy. Thinks he "earned" something after 6 weeks. What an idiot. Just another of the many welfare sucks who run around yelling "Gimme Gimme Gimme" all the time.

Spouse of 100% SC disabled vet

September 5, 2010, 11:03am (report abuse)

In response to all the negative comments...99.9% of these disabled individuals WANT to work but CAN'T. Any other employer would be found guilty of withholding earned retirement payments. The comment "...I have worked with unemployed, homeless, welfare recipients and terminally ill..." Many of these vets are ALL OF THE ABOVE.

RK

(logged-in user) September 8, 2010, 1:30pm (report abuse)

So, Spouse of 100% SC disabled vet, how is it you know this? Have you personally interviewed each of these individuals? Or are you the typical welfare advocate who just pulls "statistics" out of your a$$?

1SG

January 22, 2011, 10:36pm (report abuse)

To not pass this is a slap in the face to every one that ever wore the uniform.

Where's My Change

January 25, 2011, 1:32pm (report abuse)

Where's My Change

I want Congress to look into this.

Hello Rep. Issa

2009 FIRST TIME IN FIFTY YEARS NO RAISE FOR SOCIAL SECURITY, DISABLED VETS, AND RETIRED MILITARY. NOW AGAIN IN 2010.

How convenient for Obama after no Cost of Living for Social Security and Veterans for the 2nd year in a row the price of gas has gone up and now food prices

TS

March 11, 2011, 12:22am (report abuse)

Is there any prayer of this passing or is it simply the carrot that keeps the donkey moving? Why can't it just be pushed through? Who suffers by it going through? More importantly,we, the people who kept this country safe for most of our adult lives just continue to pay that price.

TS

March 11, 2011, 12:27am (report abuse)

And, in case this is also forgotten, for most us who go back to the Viet Nam war, every year that this bill sits on a desk, is another year we won't get back and another year we've paid for our own disability. Is there no shame?

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