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H.R. 305 would amend title 49, United States Code, to prohibit the transportation of horses in interstate transportation in a motor vehicle containing 2 or more levels stacked on top of one another.

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D. Masters

January 11, 2009, 10:14am (report abuse)

Who in their right mind would be against transporting equids properly, safely and humanely?

Let me guess...the meatman and the transporter for the meatman!

S Matthews

January 11, 2009, 10:54am (report abuse)

Whoever thinks that it is safe/secure to transport horses this way should be willing to stand in the center of the trailer

the mayhem caused by putting herd animals (that means they all look for a leader and fight to become a leader) that are unused to being crammed into a trailer that in additional to being crammed full is too low for them is unbelievably cruel. When lobsters and crabs are caught they are prevented from injuring one another - but with the domesticated horse, the horse that has recently had an exhibit about it's impact and help in creating the civilized world - they are just tossed in together and if they get their eyes kicked out, or faces kicked in, or legs broken - who cares.

Anyone who supports this system needs to do more looking - it is inhumane by any standards and if private horse owners transported their horses in this fashion they would be hauled in for abuse.

The current situation is appalling.

Barbara Warner

January 11, 2009, 11:10am (report abuse)

Just visit www.Animals-Angels.org to se the horrible injuries and even deaths of horses transported in doble deckers to slaughter in thsi country before plants were closed. It appears USDA inspectors have not done their job and let this cruelty continue.

lmatte

January 11, 2009, 11:18am (report abuse)

Double decker trucks are used to ship horses to slaughter. The more horses killers can cram in their truck the more money they can make. A bill was passed in Feb of 2002 that effective 5 years from that date (Feb 2007) double decker trucks would be prohibited to transport horses directly (key word) to slaughter. The killers had 5 years to comply with this law.

They totally ignored the law (what's new) and continued shipping horses in double decker trailers (still do today) to a feedlot close to the slaughter houses. Therefore circumventing the law that specifies "directly to slaughter".

The killer buyers and their shippers have absolutely no intention of ever doing anything to treat horses humanely before and during the trasport to slaughter. The slaughter houses are the same.

Please see www.kaufmanzoning.net and click on FOIA records to see for your self what horses go through in route to slaughter.

Margaret Smith

January 11, 2009, 11:21am (report abuse)

For one thing, there is not enough room for horses to hold their heads in a normal position. I used to drive rigs and pulled a pot so I know what I'm talking about. Double deckers are NOT made for equines and are very cruel and should NOT be used for them. Wake up Congress!!!

Lmatte

January 11, 2009, 11:28am (report abuse)

http://www.kaufmanzoning.net/

Go to the above website and look at the FOIA (Freedon of Information Act) records. The records come directly from the government. There are 100's of pictures received directly from the USDA that shows horses faces bashed in and bleeding, their eyeballs hanging from their sockets by strings of flesh and their legs broken off and gone.

These pictures are all taken at a slaughter facility in TEXAS yes the United States of America. So when you hear people say we should open the slaughter houses back up in the USA this is what happens to horses in the USA.

Horse slaughter is not humane no matter where it takes place. Do your research and contact your US Rep and Senators. You can look them up here: https://community.hsus.org/humane/leg-lookup/search.html

Tell your legislators to pass HR 305.

cherylh

January 11, 2009, 11:33am (report abuse)

The law to ban double decker trucks for the transport of horses to slaughter houses was meant to cure the egregious conditions horses had to endure during long truck rides in excess of 24 hours to slaughterhouses. Horses are long necked animals and there is insufficient head room for horses to stand in a natural position. Imagine how you would feel if you had to bend over will low head room for an extended trip. The trouble with all of this is the killbuyers and money hungry shippers have figured out a way around this law... not for the welfare of anyone except their own wallets. It is disgraceful that a nation as great as ours should allow such horrible conditions. It is time these money grubbing mercenaries have the loopholes closed up. No horse should ever have to endure such inhumane conditions.

NDeeve

January 11, 2009, 11:54am (report abuse)

The double-decker truck transport of horses, for any reason, should have been legally banned a long time ago. We cannot call ourselves a civilized country and continue the brutal practice of transporting horses by double decker trucks.

Patricia

January 11, 2009, 12:13pm (report abuse)

Pass the bill. Transporting horses in double deckers is inhumane.

MJWilson

January 11, 2009, 12:46pm (report abuse)

It's time to stop this atrocity. See kaufmanzoning.net/horsemeat/foia.htm

Let's get HR305 passed right away!

gary d smith

January 11, 2009, 1:24pm (report abuse)

Didn't we elect the congress to do what WE THE PEOPLE want? They CAN be voted out!!!

D. Masters

January 11, 2009, 1:28pm (report abuse)

Can't wait to read the first post against this bill. I guess the proslaughter meat machine doesn't understand that they are close to having their wheels cut from under them.

Even the abysmal AVMA/AAEP supports this bill...gee, cattle and swine trailers are inappropriate for equids? And how long did it take these organizations to figure this out? About a couple of million dead horses ago.

Pathetic.

Animal Law Coalition

January 11, 2009, 2:01pm (report abuse)

Go to Animal Law Coalition about why this law is needed and just how cruel it is to transport horses this way. You will also find information about how to contact Congress in support of H.R. 305.

http://www.animallawcoalition.com/horse-slaughter/article/652

karen4horses

January 11, 2009, 4:15pm (report abuse)

Please stop this nightmare for America's Horses !!Pass HR 305 !!

A picture is worth a thousand words. Take a look.Pictures can be found here.

http://www.kaufmanzoning.net/

Lorri R

January 11, 2009, 4:37pm (report abuse)

What ever made it right in the first place to ship equines in this way, without enough head room? You don't have to be a brain surgeon to see it's inhumane to leave a horse standing that way for any period of time. The horse slaughter industry is fraught with cruelty and encourages inhumane behavior to many horses in the name of the almighty dollar.

Barb AZ

January 11, 2009, 6:17pm (report abuse)

Get involved!

http://arizona1-aahsbloggingupdates.blogspot.com/

H.M.Mango

January 11, 2009, 6:28pm (report abuse)

I have worked an auction barn where we received horses on these vehicles. Injuries were rampant. Lower horses were covered with urine and manure. Horses were hunched up because there was no head room.

Anyone who believes these vehicles are acceptable forms of transportation should ride cross country in a car trunk, with holes drilled for ventilation and regular stops to have detrius dumped on them.

Barbara P.

January 11, 2009, 6:49pm (report abuse)

We need to stop this woeful and cruel practice. We need to step up to the plate for these animals who cannot speak for themselves. We cannot continue to hide or turn the other way when we see the treatment they are receiving from people who make money from their flesh.

Lin

January 11, 2009, 7:43pm (report abuse)

Horse slaughter is animal abuse from when they get dropped at an auction or feedlot, get cramped into these trailers and then BUTCHERED ALIVE.

SAVE OUR HORSES

Harley

January 11, 2009, 7:55pm (report abuse)

The people have spoken time and time again, when will the means to end this kind of abuse become law to protect all equid? The links posted in previous comments say it all. Do something about this NOW. We did voted you in, and we DO keep track of your voting records regarding animal abuse!!!!!

Sonya Richins

January 11, 2009, 8:48pm (report abuse)

This is HORRIFIC ABUSE......these horses deserve a respectful and peaceful death! Imagine being crammed into double deckers, they can't put their heads up, legs are slipping through getting broken, cut and mangled, no water or food, and they are crammed together so tight several die very painful agonizing deaths on there LONG journeys to yet a more horrifying torture! For the LOVE of GOD when are we going to stop treating animals like this???

K. Walker

January 12, 2009, 4:49am (report abuse)

Let the owners of the horses choose how they want to transport them. Horses are property; it is not the government's job to tell property owners how to use their property. Enacting this legislation would be one more nail in the coffin for individual rights (including the right to property, which includes the right to decide how to use, dispose of, and transport that property). The concept of rights is a HUMAN concept and applies to human beings. Animals do not have rights!

Verna1

January 12, 2009, 5:57am (report abuse)

To: K.Walker, animal's absolutely DO have rights. They have the same right as anyone under the law to remain free of abuse. The 1958 slaughter act even addresses this. Animals are not to be abused and transporting horses this way most certainly is abuse and therefore out of your hands - unless you wish to break the law and abuse your horse, which is your right - but the right of the people is to see to it that you are held accountable for those actions and that is what this bill will do, hold those who abuse horses by transporting them this way, accountable. Something that should have been done as D. Masters, stated - a million horses ago. But, we have the ability to see that no more are abused and will contacts our reps to let them know that! One last thing, if you bothered to look at the pictures provided in the links above and this did not bother you - you should never be allowed to own a horse. God help them!!!

J. Gay

January 12, 2009, 7:08am (report abuse)

Animals are property, but we are humans and have a responsibility to ensure that all creatures are spared suffering. Ban the double decker trailers for horses. Such trailers are dangerous and cause massive suffering during transport.

Susan Haller

January 12, 2009, 8:38am (report abuse)

Double decker transports are designed for short necked cattle and NOT horses. PASS THIS BILL.,

kchambers

January 12, 2009, 8:50am (report abuse)

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated”

--Mahatma Ghandi

A key word here is PROGRESS. This country needs to do what is right. No more double decker trailers is a start.

Kate in Rhode Island

January 12, 2009, 10:02am (report abuse)

It's always a matter of the almighty buck isn't it?

Please do something on my request for those whom would scream it aloud if they had the option. It's inhumane and SHOULD be illegal. The people are asking you to do this....please stop this practice by signing this into law.

Thank you from your constituants.

Kathy Burns

January 12, 2009, 11:25am (report abuse)

#1-The law passed to discontinue by Feb. 2007 has not been enforced.The amendment would help to take out the "directly to slaughter". As previously stated,the abusers just take them to a holding facility close by & thus gets away with it. Then others are transferred to Mexico or Canada & our laws are invalid. At least we can control things in our own country!!We can't let the abusers & cheaters win! We MUST pass 305! Thank you.

Sandra Church

January 12, 2009, 11:53am (report abuse)

American horses are not bred and born to be butchered nor should they endure the inhumane treatment of being hauled on double decker transports. Plus these trailers are dangerous to the general (driving) public regardless of what animals are being transported because they frequently turn over such as the one recently wrecked in Indiana.

smurphy

January 12, 2009, 2:08pm (report abuse)

No more transporting our horses in double deck trailers. Its inhumane and the only ones that don't want this bill passed, are the kill buyers. Americans have been asking for this to treatment to end. Please pass HR 305!

vicki

January 12, 2009, 8:04pm (report abuse)

K. Walker, the government has already told you how you can treat, use and dispose of “property”. You cannot dispose of your children (they are property until age 18) car, computers, appliances, etc. in any manner you choose. When people don’t have common sense, laws must be passed to protect those that cannot speak for themselves. Owning property does not give the owner the right to abuse property. Horse slaughter and the transport in double deckers is the ultimate abuse. Your property rights comment does not hold water on disposal. There are already laws in many states that dictate how you can dispose of a horse. You are correct. Animals do not have rights and they will. But as a human, you are mandated by law to treat animals in a humane manner. When you do not know what humane means, laws must be passed to protect animals. Without laws, people like Michael Vick are free to abuse animals for profit. That is exactly what horse slaughter is.

www.vickitobin.com

vicki

January 12, 2009, 8:06pm (report abuse)

oops, that was supposed to be animals do not have rights and NEVER will.

AFreda

January 13, 2009, 11:46am (report abuse)

Anyone who drives a vehicle on public roads should be concerned about how loads of anything are transported. Shifting loads of horses, particularly overloaded upper decks of DD trailers, are dangerous to all the vehicles surrounding them.

This is not just a 'be humane to animals' issue, but also a safety issue for everyone.

Am I anti-slaughter? Sure am.

But I am also a driver who would prefer to not be part of a wreck like the horse slaughter truck ones we've seen in recent years, which by sheer luck, did not involve other vehicles. Yet.

Stick

January 13, 2009, 1:26pm (report abuse)

I don't eat horses and I don't support being cruel to animals but there are ways to accomplish these things without laws. I just don't believe this is something the government needs to be involved with.

vicki

January 13, 2009, 11:16pm (report abuse)

Stick, do you think the kill buyers are just going to go away? Do you think the breed and dumpers will just start breeding responsibly without removing the incentive? Legislation has been pending for years. The pro slaughter have done nothing to prepare for the end of horse slaughter. The number one breed of horses going to slaughter are QHs and once again, the puppy mill of the horse world, the AQHA, brought 140,000 foals into the population in 2008.

How do you propose ending this despicable industry without a law? Without laws, people like Michael Vick are free to abuse animals for profit and horse slaughter is the ultimate multi-million dollar abuse.

www.vickitobin.com

Stick

January 14, 2009, 9:06am (report abuse)

Easy don't buy their products. Spread awarness so others don't buy their products. This is the first I have every heard of anything so the anti double decker trailer crowd are doing a horrible job of letting people know what is going on.

vicki

January 14, 2009, 12:19pm (report abuse)

Stick, we don't buy their products. There is no market for horse meat in the US - it goes overseas. The only way to end it is to close the borders. They're not going to stop because of overwhelming support against horse slaughter. Where have you been – LOL? We have had horse slaughter legislation pending since the early 2000s. We passed legislation on double deckers in December 2006 but that only banned the trucks for the last leg to slaughter. This legislation will ban all transport of horses in double deckers.

stick

January 14, 2009, 2:12pm (report abuse)

No one I have talked to about it has ever heard of the suffering of the hourses but that's besides the point there are already laws about the treating animals humanely, if they are not inforced the new ones won't be either.

Rita Brown

January 14, 2009, 3:47pm (report abuse)

One would think that in this day , this sort of Bill would not be considered. I am from England and a farmers daughter and I can say that my dad had a deep respect for horses. Stop this now.

K. Walker

January 14, 2009, 10:30pm (report abuse)

Vicki, I do not agree with you.

vicki

January 15, 2009, 1:12am (report abuse)

K. Walker, what have I stated that is not correct?

ador

January 15, 2009, 4:04am (report abuse)

People are f**king with the statictis in the pollll!

webmaster

January 15, 2009, 9:27am (report abuse)

It is difficult to vote multiple times, though it is possible, and the poll is unscientific.

If you believe there is a problem, please use the contact page (below) to report it - and please avoid cursing when you do so.

Thank you.

Chris S

January 15, 2009, 9:57am (report abuse)

This bill is such a no brainer, I couldn't even imagine anyone opposed to something so basic. One of the things the pro-slaughter group was saying was they were working on a plan to make the whole process more humane, and already there are people opposed to the first step?!

D. Masters

January 15, 2009, 5:00pm (report abuse)

The proslaughter folks have been on notice for more than two years and have not implemented any self imposed transport standards or much more, reduction of breeding without responsibility manifestos/commitments.

Webmaster:

Left a voice mail message for you yesterday and never got a reply. Not sure, maybe you are busy...but you seem have time to post here. I also believe that you know where the feed trough is.

Also, respectfully and sincerely request that you remove the post that you so gleefully posted as it was not intended for you or public consumption. You're a ID/privacy expert, right? You are now on notice. It was not for you and more importantly, public posting; error in the click and I did apologize.

D. Masters

January 15, 2009, 5:18pm (report abuse)

I also asked you to seek out rebuttals to your "Trackbacks for this Bill" more than a few days ago and still you have nothing. WHY? As a facilatator for debate, truth and justice, I would have thought that would be your first priority. You, yourself stated that you were trying to post neutrally with intention of further debate. If legitimate discourse has been received, regardless of position, post it, please.

You work for a prestigious organization that thinks out debate left, right, up and down the middle on issues. Why no further featured opinion posting of this issue other than your seriously incomplete commentary?

Told you I wouldn't monitor or post on the blog...not this site.

One final thought, please stop with the "passion" issue. This is about right and wrong.

D. Masters

January 15, 2009, 5:25pm (report abuse)

Sir:

One final thing, if I recall (last Congress HR to end slaughter) someone wished me death as a response to my posts; I called for you and received no response. I find your calls for "be nice" and no cursing a bit disingenuous. Or is my problem I'm just not walking inyour shoes?

jean robertson

January 18, 2009, 11:44am (report abuse)

Laws will only work if they are inforced. U.S. horsess are hauled to Canada in double decker trailers even though it is against the law. Canada has 7 slaughter plants in operation. Three of those are new since the U.S. plants closed. There is big money in horsemeat. Live shipments go out of Calgary to Japan by air. Horses are bred and raised strictly for meat mostly quarter horses and drafts. They receive no drugs. They are butchered within 3 days. The meat is eaten raw and sells for about $20.00 a pound. Horses are coming in from south of our border by the thousands. If somehow that could be stopped hopefully our slaughter plants would close.

Dawnabyrd

January 19, 2009, 1:47pm (report abuse)

"I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it."

Abraham Lincoln

I think it safe to say Mr. Lincoln would have included any pet or animal property.

martita goshen

January 22, 2009, 10:33pm (report abuse)

this terrible crime must end

.the brutal killing of innocent loyal

beautiful horses.an absolute national shame

Amber

January 23, 2009, 10:08am (report abuse)

I am I guess a "pro-slaughter" person but this is the regulation I agree with. I am fine with making sure the horses are transported correctly and would like for it to be more the way Europe does things with each horses having its own stall in the trailer and timed stops for both feeding and watering. To me this is a realistic goal and compromise. But I doubt the animal rights people are willing to compromise. Until all our horses are just decoration in the lawn they will not be happy. People who race are bad, if they show their bad, and breeding is bad. Horses will always get hurt, ask anyone who's been around one for a little while. Getting rid of the double deckers is a good start for making sure the horses are more humanely treated.

Gale, KY

January 24, 2009, 6:46pm (report abuse)

Anyone that doesn't believe this is inhumane should see horses after riding in a double decker. Some are crippled, many cannot stand upright for hours and many do not make the trip alive. I would challenge anyone believing this is an appropriate mode of transport to ride in the back of a horse trailer, along side of a couple of horses, bent over about 45 degrees. And keep this position for about 8- 12 hours.

amazed

January 26, 2009, 6:58am (report abuse)

as a horse owner of many many years, I am honestly amazed at the level of ignorance the anti-slaughter people display with regard to the livestock/slaughter industry and the need for not on slaughter house availability but also the need to be allow to transport horses and other stock to the facilities.

Vote NO on HR 305 Stop the unwarranted jeopardization of the rights and livelihoods of the American people. There are for more important things in this Country that need our attention. Stop the threat of putting yet thousands more people out of employment over stupidity.

Wake up Congress and ban the continual slandering and harassment of the American Livestock Industry and Farmers~Kick these animal do gooders to the curb once and for all!

Dave D

January 26, 2009, 10:06am (report abuse)

The only people that this bill will truely affect is the Rodeo Stock Contractors. In most states the double deckers have not been used now for a couple years, further more the ones that do use them, Stock Contractors, have specially made trailers so their horses can stand normal with head room to spare. But we all know the animal rights movement is all for putting Rodeo out of business too. So lets call all of this what it is. I know here in Oregon the double deckers have been gone for 2 years. Also there was a 5 year compliance time, so for all of the time line challenged, that means it has been "7" years since that was passed. You people(Big D, Vicki and your little group) need to get a job. You have wayyyy too much time on your hands.

Dave D

January 26, 2009, 10:15am (report abuse)

As far as what I know will be said about Rodeo, Most contractors take better care of their animals and will have all fed and taken care of before you people role your BFA's out of bed. It's also funny to me that the "Anti" side have now started calling me and you know what? The overwhelming response is that I am not a horrible person and they feel much different about me and our group. Sorry I am not the Monster the anti's want me to be.

Ronnie G.

January 31, 2009, 7:11am (report abuse)

The slaughter of horses would have been banned years ago if not for the corruption in Washington, DC by a few. And these few are aligned with the Dept. Of Agriculture. And those few in the Dept. of Ag have a vested interest in the slaughter of horses. Pockets padded, favors...w/high power lobbyists...esp. for the CATTLEMEN. The National Cattlemen's Beef Association (NCBA) fear there will be a trickle-down effect to cows if horse slaughter is banned. However, Horses ARE NOT LIVESTOCK. In addition, GREED. Much $$$ is made off of the brutal slaughter of horses. Kick-backs all over the place.

The transport of horses in double-decker trailers is horse slaughter...the last tortuous ride to no-way-out. Crammed, trampled, injured, starved, no water, no exercise...for thousands of miles. Although this is now happening because our American horses are brought to Mexico and Canada, they still traveled these distances across America when the U.S slaughter houses were operating.

jean robertson

January 31, 2009, 3:37pm (report abuse)

In 2008, 112,887 horses were slaughtered in Canada. That is a 42% increase over 2007 and a 125% increase over 2006.This proves the closure of the 3 U.S. plants did not stop horse slaughter and is not responsible for abandoned horses. Owners knew last summer their horses had to eat this winter so why did they not buy hay then. Irresponsible owners.

Robin W.

February 2, 2009, 9:49pm (report abuse)

Please call your representative in support of this bill!! Stop this insanity.

Diana

February 7, 2009, 10:52am (report abuse)

This bill is long overdue.

Please pass HR305 and HR503.

Lee

February 7, 2009, 5:20pm (report abuse)

This is a bad and mis leading the worbing has changed since the first posts when the voting started. The way it looks maybe it will change again as this has made big changer since the first posted. Another thin it is no wonder people can sway this site on the pro side I have been able to vote 4 times now. We hnow the ones for have been doing the same.

Notice are you aware that the NCSL voted to support horse slaughter in all 50 states with over 90% in full support the rural ag leader done the same 2 weeks ago in all 50 states supporting horse slaughter and transportation

Vote no on the Hr 503 and 305

pls bidmore

February 8, 2009, 8:49am (report abuse)

This is probably not going to be popular with either group i am pro-slaughter but the double decker thing does bother me so vote yes to hr 305 but still no hr 503

Kim Baldyga

February 8, 2009, 1:50pm (report abuse)

We are a civilized, modern country. We should not allow such primitive, barbaric actions to occur.

Lee

February 8, 2009, 7:38pm (report abuse)

This 906 page foia that some are trying to make everyone believe is all injurys caused by transportation. The most of the violations were paperwork. The truth is coming out as to how the ones that say that these injurys were common and all 906 was injurys, this is a lie

vote no on the 305/503

vote NO on the HR 503 and HR305

vicki

February 9, 2009, 10:18am (report abuse)

Lee, you guys need to get your stories straight. First Dave D accuses us of saying it was at the slaughter plant and said it was transport. Now, you’re accusing us of saying it’s the transport. We never said it was either. The cause is horse slaughter. If slaughter didn’t exist, the injuries wouldn’t have happened. It doesn’t matter if it’s the auction, the feedlot, transport or the slaughter plant. The cause is horse slaughter.

to pls bidmore

February 9, 2009, 11:20am (report abuse)

pls bidmore, I am antislaughter, but the fact that you are for this bill but still proslaughter, is fine with me. It's a start. No one who is proslaughter should be against this bill. The transport of horses in DD is horrific.

D. Masters

February 9, 2009, 12:36pm (report abuse)

One can not realistically be against horse slaughter transport and be for horse slaughter for human consumption. They are forever intertwined and a necessity for speed of processing/slaughter of horses; ergo, cattle/swine trailers hauling equids....and they don't put boars, rams or bulls in a mixed load for slaughter as standard proceedure. But by God, we do it for equids.

As the webmaster has seen it necessary to pull down the HR 503 debate, for whatever reason it is time to focus on a part of an inhumane aspect of the completely inhumane slaughter issue regarding horses. Transport and the handling of horses is just a part of the overall problem of human consumption horse slaughter in the US.

Pass HR 305 and 503...while you're at it address irresponsible ownership, humane death and overbreeding.

vicki

February 9, 2009, 2:05pm (report abuse)

amazed, do you anybody besides horse slaughter haulers that transport their horses in double deckers? I don't ever recall seeing show horses, race horses, performing horses, law enforcement, therapy, etc. ever pulling up in double deckers. Who besides slaughter haulers would take a change injuring their horses?

This has nothing to do with the livestock industry. It's about humane horse transport.

D. Masters

February 9, 2009, 4:23pm (report abuse)

One can not realistically be against horse slaughter transport and be for horse slaughter for human consumption. They are forever intertwined and a necessity for speed of processing/slaughter of horses; ergo, cattle/swine trailers hauling equids....and they don't put boars, rams or bulls in a mixed load for slaughter as standard proceedure. But by God, we do it for equids.

As the webmaster has seen it necessary to pull down the HR 503 debate, for whatever reason it is time to focus on a part of an inhumane aspect of the completely inhumane slaughter issue regarding horses. Transport and the handling of horses is just a part of the overall problem of human consumption horse slaughter in the US.

Pass HR 305 and 503...while you're at it address irresponsible ownership, humane death and overbreeding.

Katia Louise

February 10, 2009, 1:04am (report abuse)

Double decker trailers are cruel & inhumane. Listen to Saving America's Horses to learn more at http://wflendangeredstreamlive.org/savingamericashorses.html

Jim

February 10, 2009, 6:59am (report abuse)

Alert is everyone aware the NCSL passed in ALL 50 States supporting horse slaughter and transportation to and from slaughter houses. The rural ag leaders also passed the same in all 50 states supporting horse slaughter and transportation of horses to and from slaughter plants.

VOTE NO ON 503 and 305

Ron

February 10, 2009, 7:07am (report abuse)

D Masters and Vicki

It sure looks like everyone in America is doing the right thing and passing laws supporting horse slaughter.

Looks they are taking the wheel from YOUR WAGON!!

Vote NO 503/305

Vote NO 503/ 305 no no no no

Ron

February 10, 2009, 7:10am (report abuse)

Where has Dr M been, killing RATS in the lab with your sticks and stones D. Masters???

VOTE NO 503/305

D. Masters

February 10, 2009, 9:59am (report abuse)

NCSL does not represent the American People. It represents state legislators interested in specific lobbying interests at the Federal level. Anyone that supports horse slaughter for human consumption is as far away from "doing the right thing" as humanly possible. The AVMA/AAEP support HR 305, Mr. Ron. You are once again, incorrect. What don't you ask Mr. Harper why he hasn't brought up the HR 503 comment blog?

Support HR 305 and 503. Stop the purveyors of cruelty and putrified food products.

vicki

February 10, 2009, 10:31am (report abuse)

Ron, passing laws to support and opening are two different things. You can't open without USDA inspectors.

Stay tuned. The majority of Americans are against slaughter and will win. We have killed every argument that pro slaughter advocates use. When slaughter ends, 305 will be moot because only slaughter haulers use double deckers for horses.

BTW-lay off Dr. M. If you knew why she hasn’t been on-line you would act like an adult instead of a child.

Listen to the radio program Katia posted. It's very informational.

Ron

February 10, 2009, 10:48am (report abuse)

There is so much about this subject that the two of you do not have a clue. All you can do is twist words around to make you look good, you do not realize how much the politicans can see right through you. Now twist this around as you do everything else.

The more you talk the dumber you sound!!!

VOTE NO- NO on the 503 and 305

VOTE NO on the 503 and 305

Ron

February 10, 2009, 11:03am (report abuse)

Ron, once again, no substance in your post- only bashing.

It is a fact that you must have USDA inspectors. How is that twisting facts?

It is a fact that supporting slaughter and opening plants are two different things. How is that twisting facts?

It is a fact that horse owners (with the exception of some rodeos that Dave D mentioned) do not use double deckers to transport their horses. How is that twisting facts? Perhaps you should talk to Dave because you have been contradicting his statements lately. Shouldn’t you be on the same page?

You keep saying we're twisting but never say what we're twisting. Is it because you don’t want to discuss anything?

Terrygean

February 10, 2009, 11:04am (report abuse)

It is time to put on board recorders (little back box) in livestock trucks. It will monitor every minute of the truck. THat way the drivers will have to follow the FMCSA hours of service regs. and the USDA 28 hr regs for livestock on a trailer. Look at the livestock truckings SAFE STAT records. In 14 years on the road I have only seen 2 Bull haulers pulled over. Try to catch one. I encourage everyone to contact the reps & ask for the On Board Recorders to be put in Livestock trucks.

D. Masters

February 10, 2009, 11:26am (report abuse)

Mr. Ron:

The AVMA/AAEP support HR 305. They believe that hauling horses to slaughter drop stops along and to the kill floor end are inappropriate. Not an opinion, Ron...FACT. Not twisted, incorrect or bashing, just a fact.

Congress, please support and pass HR 305 and 503. Mr. Harper, still waiting for you to archive HR 503 comments, provide links to same and bring the HR 503 debate back to Washington Watch. I'm starting to think that the removal is more a function of stifeling debate than that of site disruption. But, it's your sandbox.

pls bidmore

February 10, 2009, 12:26pm (report abuse)

D masters

again you spew forth the vomit of the anti slaughter propaganda with out even knowing what it is about. people can be pro slaughter and still want the most humane treatment of those horses possible .

Mr. masters attacked me before calling me a liar because he accused me of not using my real name Paula ,Lynn,& stan Bidmore from indiana thank you. And to any of you who find offense with the 1st line of my statement it was a direct plagerism of D masters reply to my opinion so vote yes to hr305 but NO TO HR 503

D. Masters

February 10, 2009, 12:38pm (report abuse)

pls bidmore:

This is a different topic. And no, people that are proslaughter at this point in the argument and situation do not apppear to have the most humane treatment of the horses in mind. I will not address my comments from the now removed HR 503 thread except to say you did not address the entirety of my comments and have lifted convenient portions of it to change the subject of horse transport in DDs. And I remind you, you are still not using your real name.

Pass HR 305 and 503.

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