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S. 2338, The FHA Modernization Act of 2007 (375 comments ↓ | 5 wiki edits)
- This item is from the 110th Congress (2007-2008) and is no longer current. Comments, voting, and wiki editing have been disabled, and the cost/savings estimate has been frozen.
An original bill to modernize and update the National Housing Act and enable the Federal Housing Administration to more effectively reach underserved borrowers.
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Jim
August 26, 2008, 2:07pm (report abuse)Apparently the reason nothing has been done by FHA and HUD (according to a source that I will not identify) since this bill passed last month is because of vacations. Bureaucrats.
John
August 26, 2008, 4:38pm (report abuse)October 1st seems like the date that the FHA programs begin to roll out. Starting with the Home Now, Grant Foreclosure Program for Cities and the new higher MIP on all FHA programs. Because the Stimulus Package covered the loan limits (until end of 2008)I guess the HECM borrowers are left out until possibly January. Also have not read when the coops or manufactured program will come out.
Jo Ann
August 27, 2008, 1:34pm (report abuse)Jeez! What a continuing mess!
Here we all waited with baited breath for HR3221 to pass and be signed and STILL no word on exactly when or if the HECM loan limits will be raised.
I have been in this game since January 2008 and finally decided to chance it and closed on a HECM with a 1.5% margin the end of July.
Should I have waited? Maybe, but my loan officer was right - she said there would be problems lasting for months.
I wish ALL of you that are sticking it out the best of luck and that you obtain an HECM of your liking - the best possible.
Betty
August 27, 2008, 2:03pm (report abuse)How long does a reverse mortgage application take? I am from Virginia.
Jo Ann
August 27, 2008, 2:35pm (report abuse)08/27/2008 Betty - Mine was extremely quick because I had an FHA appraisal that was still valid (changed lenders). I completed the application paperwork with new lender, was re-counseled and I closed in less than two weeks.
It depends on time needed for an appraisal, counseling certificate and how efficient your LO and closing agent is, I guess.
Normally, I believe it might take up to six weeks? Others would know better than I on this.
Tamera
August 27, 2008, 9:44pm (report abuse)Betty- the application and processing should take ~4 weeks or so. (assuming no title issues, etc)
Jo Ann- Im glad you were able to close under the HECM 150! You were wise to close when you did.
Also, I have it from a reliable source that the Co-op portion of the Law was going to take upwards to a year to go into effect :( Ive also heard rumors (remember, these are rumors!) that the lending limit will go up to $417 on Oct 1st, the on Jan 1st go up to the $625k.
So here we are, continuing to wait, while some of my clients quietly slip further into the foreclosure process :(
Tam
Betty
August 28, 2008, 9:41am (report abuse)I have applied for a reverse mortgate on 8/7/08. I'm late 3 months(mortgage). ASC gave a plan to pay 2,994.00 until December then they will decide how can I pay the rest. I am affraid my pockets will not resist beyond October. What can I do?
Jo Ann
August 28, 2008, 11:38am (report abuse)08/28/2008 - Betty, It is inexcusable that you and others are in this position because of bureaucratic dawdling, red tape and VACATIONS!
Tamara gives good advice - perhaps she can help you privately? I feel for you and hope you are able to find a solution quickly.
Tamera
August 28, 2008, 12:50pm (report abuse)Betty-
There are programs out there that can help you. Youy can learn about them through the Hope Hotline.
"The 888-995-HOPE™ hotline has a single mission: to help more homeowners avoid foreclosure. Provided by the Homeownership Preservation Foundation, the Homeowner's HOPE™ Hotline has provided advice and education to more than 300,000 homeowners since 2002.
The Foundation is not a mortgage company. We are an independent, third-party resource that has assembled a not-for-profit network dedicated to helping homeowners avoid foreclosure.
The help we offer is free"
One of the programs that may help you is the FanniMae Homesaver.
continued next post-
Tamera
August 28, 2008, 12:51pm (report abuse)continued from last post-
I would suggest you contact the Fannie Mae Servicing Solutions Center at 1-888-FANNIE8 (1-888-326-6438), option #2.
https://www.efanniemae.com/sf/servicing/homesaveradvance.jsp
"HomeSaver Advance, an unsecured personal loan, is a new loss mitigation alternative available to approved Fannie Mae servicers for eligible borrowers designed to bring a cure to the delinquency on a first lien loan. It provides funds to cure arrearages of principal, interest, taxes, and insurance (PITI), as well as other advances and fees as listed in the Highlights section below. HomeSaver Advance is documented by a borrower-signed promissory note, payable over 15 years at a fixed rate of 5% with no payments or interest accrual for the first six months."
That should buy you some time to get a reverse mortgage closed.
Tam :)
karen
September 3, 2008, 11:44am (report abuse)Has anyone heard anything about an effective date for HR3221? I hope it is not going to take as long as it did to get the bill passed.
Tamera
September 8, 2008, 12:12pm (report abuse)I guess its obvious the answer is no.
We are all still waiting, and there is no where to check the status.
Wish I had better news for you.
Tam
karen
September 8, 2008, 9:41pm (report abuse)Thanks, Tam. It is kind of weird that this blog is so quiet after all these months. Have been counting on all of you out there as my information "station". I don't know if no news is good news........or bad!
John
September 9, 2008, 6:39pm (report abuse)Karen, Previously you asked when HR3221 would be implemented. Well, depending on what you are waiting for, it could be 10/01/08 or later. The loan modifications are getting top priority. I heard that veteran loan limits have already been implemented maybe because they were left off the temporary stimulus package. I have checked the HUD websites but find that the only thing new is the MIP increases on forward mortgages.
karen
September 10, 2008, 4:10pm (report abuse)John, I still haven't been able to proceed with my reverse mortgage as I need the $417,000 limit. My loan officer says he still hasn't heard anything regarding the effective date. Do you know?
John
September 11, 2008, 2:59pm (report abuse)Karen, Everyone is waiting for a Mortgagee Letter from HUD that states the date of implementation and clarification on the new loan limits. I am looking forward to the congressional committee meeting next week with HUD on their progress in implementing HR3221. Don't remember the date or if it is the House or Senate committee.
Battle1
September 13, 2008, 7:58am (report abuse)I am hoping that the loan limits go to 417,000 here in NC along with a good IR%, When next week is congressional committe meeting
Battle1
September 13, 2008, 8:11am (report abuse)Also, if you have had late payments on your loan, will that still qualify you for this program ? I am thinking if it's a rescue bill, FHA will allow you to still refi.
JB
September 15, 2008, 11:06am (report abuse)Ok, here is my problem. I am in a area where the FHA loan limit is at 296k The buy out of my loan is at 392k. I have a IR% right now of 10.75 % with a few late payments, I just can't afford to contine to make this payment. I have engaged " hope now " about this issue to setup talks to maybe right down the loan or give me a better rate. Will this bill help me, if so how ? I know everyone is not sure how the loan limits will go up, but like Battle1, I need a good IR% along with the loan limits to go up. My credit score have taken a hit were I can't get a loan out side of FHA. I am hoping Oct 1 will change all of this
TIM
September 16, 2008, 1:26pm (report abuse)FOR SOME GOOD NEWS ON HECM LOAN LIMITS GO TO REVERSEMORTGAGEDAILY.COM!
karen
September 18, 2008, 10:07am (report abuse)Tim, I didn't expect an advertisement - this is suppose to be a blog for exchange of information and ideas.
TIM
September 18, 2008, 10:51am (report abuse)THIS IS NOT A BLOG. THIS IS A SITE FOR POSTING COMMENTS REGARDING THIS LEGISLATION. MY POSTING REFERRED TO LETTERS FROM TWO LEGISLATORS STATING WHAT THE NEW LIMITS ARE. GIVE ME A BREAK KAREN.
Tamera
September 18, 2008, 12:57pm (report abuse)The link, though buried now, was from Senator Barbara Boxer. Quoted from the link:
" am pleased to report that the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 – which passed Congress and was signed into law on July 30, 2008 – permanently raises the HECM loan limit to $625,000."
Sadly, I have seen two other letters from other senators stating they approved one for $417 (another CA Senator)and another for the $625k.
I think all this means is that even the Senators dont know what they signed.
On another note, I was on a conferencce call with Peter Bell from NRMLA this morning. He stated that NRMLA was meeting with HUD tomorrow, and was hopeful to at least have some clarification, maybe more. He stated that he felt that the 417k limit could go into affect if they pushed it, but was hopeful that they could hold out another week or so for the 625k, as once the limit goes up, we wouldnt see another increase for a while.
Tam :)
karen
September 18, 2008, 3:10pm (report abuse)Thanks, Tam, things don't always seem as they appear!
karen
September 20, 2008, 8:03pm (report abuse)Sorry, Tim. I was expecting something new at the site and when I found nothing, I thought you were sending us to an advertisement.
Tamera
September 22, 2008, 12:30pm (report abuse)9/22/08
Updates: First, from the NRMLA (National Reverse Mortgage Lenders Association):
(excerpt)"The question on HECM loan limits is being evaluated at the highest levels of the Administration. There is a debate on the interpretation of the housing legislation with regard to the limit being at a flat $417,000 or it being $417,000 with high cost area exceptions up to $625,000 or a third scenario of a flat limit of $625,000. Needless to say, this is our highest priority and we are devoting our full attention to it as it gets attention at the highest echelons of the Administration."
There was also an interview with Peter Bell, President of NRMLA, last week. Not sure if it was before or after Fridays call with HUD. The gist of it was that Mr Bell anticipates a national loan limit as early as Oct 1st. He hopes to see mortgagee letters within a week or so.
http://reversemortgagemedia.com/PeterSpotlight.pdf
It sounds as if we might finally be getting somewhere!
Tam :)
bennettjohn
September 22, 2008, 1:12pm (report abuse)tim- thanks for the lead to www.reversemortgagedaily.com.
i found it helpful as many others who are waiting for the new limits did. any news is helpful.
tammy, your update confirms tim's favorite website's news.
over the last year that we've been waiting, i've spent $7500 of money i don't have (put it on plastic) anticipating implementation of the new limits.
lee
September 27, 2008, 4:36am (report abuse)Tamera, what do you think the ir% would be with the new loan limit ?
Tamera
September 29, 2008, 5:23pm (report abuse)I attended a Reverse Mortgage Expo sponsored by HUD/FHA and NRMLA on Friday. I had the opportunity to speak to HUD/FHA regarding when we could expect the lending limit increase. He stated that he thought it was possible to see it on November 1st. He also thought it would be $417k. This was all just speculation on his part.
As far as the interest rate goes, that all depends on what Treasury Bill/LIBOR rates do. Right now the HECM CMT 175 seems to be the best product out there.
You can track the rates here:
http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/domestic-finance/debt-management/interes... />
To determine what the next weeks rates are: average the previous weeks rate and add the margin. (Example: week 9/22-26 average rate was 1.95%, add the margin of 1.75, rate for week beginning tomorrow 9/30 is 3.7% - current rate 3.44%)
Hope that helps.
Tam :)
Tamera
September 29, 2008, 5:27pm (report abuse)For some reason it cut off the end of the link I gave above. Here is the entire link (hopefully)
http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/domestic-finance/debt-management/interes... />
Tam
Tamera
September 29, 2008, 5:29pm (report abuse)http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/domestic-finance/debt-
management/interest-rate/yield.html
Run them together :) (There is more then one way to skin a cat!)
Tam
Betty
September 30, 2008, 9:18am (report abuse)As you all know I applied 4 rm on 8/7/08. I'm late 3 months w/mortgage. Entered a payment plan w/mortgage 4 $2,900. Up until now no news on my rm application. I'm from Virginia. I don't have all the money 4 Oct. What do I do? I've called places that u all provided --affraid of 4closure. Help!
Jo Ann
October 1, 2008, 12:44pm (report abuse)Betty - so sorry for your dilemma!
I live in Virginia also and have finalized a HECM.
My mortgage lady was always available and we spent considerable time on the phone and in emails. I would contact your loan officer ASAP re: status of your application. He/she should have been in touch with you on a regular basis long before now. Something is not right!
Tamera
October 1, 2008, 2:20pm (report abuse)Betty-
My understanding is that youre waiting for the lending limit increase, right?
I dont want to take your loan, but I do want to help you. Why dont you call me...Id like a better idea of what youre up against.
Tam
877-632-7890
Tamera
October 1, 2008, 7:20pm (report abuse)Latest News:
The head of HUD is scheduled to speak tomorrow at 9:30am Eastern time (6:30 Pacific, 7:30 Mountain) to the Mortgage Bankers Association in Miami. Rumor has it that he will announce the new HECM limit and timeline at that time.
Ill post up here when I find out :)
Tam
Jim Agoritsas
October 2, 2008, 12:24pm (report abuse)HUD announced today the rate goes to 417K...target date is 11-01
John
October 7, 2008, 5:48pm (report abuse)Check out www.hcdi.com/housing_ summit.Brian Montgomery and Meg Burns to speak (10-08-2008)about implementation of the various FHA programs. Maybe if we are lucky the mortgagee letter regarding loan limits.
Old Grouch from the South
October 7, 2008, 10:34pm (report abuse)Please date your comments so I know what you mean by "tomorrow". Thank you.
bennettjohn
October 8, 2008, 4:23pm (report abuse)john-
www.hcdi.com?
couldn't find /housing_summit
please confirm.
John
October 8, 2008, 5:54pm (report abuse)Bennettjohn, This site mentions that Montgomery and Burns are scheduled to speak at 9:30-10:30 on status of the FHA programs that are set to be rolled out. It is not being broadcast. Hopefully someone can get a summary of what was said.
bennettjohn
October 8, 2008, 6:20pm (report abuse)found it.
yes, a copy of the proceedings would be interesting reading
John
October 10, 2008, 3:07pm (report abuse)Prediction. Hecm limit $625,000 not $417,000 as indicated. HUD dragging heels getting out mortgagee letters. Somethings up. Keep your fingers crossed.
Tamera
October 10, 2008, 3:19pm (report abuse)10/10/08
John-
Aside from the delay in issuing the mortgagee letters, what makes you feel this is a possibility?
As much as I'd LOVE to believe its possible, all of the communications from HUD and NRMLA have indicated it as a done deal without any kind of reconsideration for the higher limit.
Please tell me something I dont know!
Tam:)
Tamera
October 10, 2008, 5:22pm (report abuse)10/10/08
NRMLA released an announcement today that lenders can now take new applications at the new lending limit, as long as the new origination is charged. Loans cannot close at the new limit until after the effective date that will be named in the mortgagee letter.
As much as I would love to see the higher limit, this new information makes me believe it wont happen.
I hope and pray your hunch is correct.
Tam :)
John
October 14, 2008, 3:43pm (report abuse)I believe that HUD is delaying the ML because of the credit crisis. Seniors have lost dividend
income with the Freddie/Fannie take overs as well as the bank takeovers. I know it is a long shoot but with a higher limit in high cost areas maybe seniors can tap into the equity in their homes to make up for the lost income. Since new apps will need to be done after the ML anyway cchanging from 417K to 625K is not that big a deal.
Tamera
October 27, 2008, 10:44pm (report abuse)10/27/09
The mortgagee letter announcing HECM for home purchase came out today with an effective date of Jan 1st, 2008
Maybe we'll see the new mortgagee letter for lending limit increase and orig cap in the next few days.
Tam
Tamera
October 27, 2008, 10:45pm (report abuse)edit above comment: Effective date is Jan 2009, not 2008.
Lending Limit Update
November 3, 2008, 11:54am (report abuse)11/3/08
Although the mortgagee letter has not yet been released, (we are expecting it any moment), A few lenders are not only allowing us to take applications at the new limit, but are funding with it as well.
The wording in the FHA Limit Announcement stated that lenders may take applications and fund loans under the new limits, but cannot sell or insure those loans until the mortgagee letter.
Two of the lenders are Bank of America and Everbank. If there is a specific lender youre interested in, give me a call and I can look it up to see if they are. :)
Tam
877-632-7890
John
November 3, 2008, 3:21pm (report abuse)Sources say "target date" next week. Hopefully this is the last.
Franny
November 4, 2008, 11:28am (report abuse)I was told last week that they will still not provide Reverse Mortgage for Manufactured homes in a Condominium complex. Consequently we were turned down for one. This leaves alot of Seniors out on a limb. Many will have to sell their home and in todays market we will get screwed plus we still have to live somewhere.
Tam
November 6, 2008, 8:58pm (report abuse)11/06/2008
Mortgagee Letter:
http://www.hud.gov/offices/adm/hudclips/letters/mortgagee/files/08-35ml... />
Tam
John
November 13, 2008, 1:03pm (report abuse)2009 FHA Maximum Mortgage Limits now official. Mortgagee Letter 2008-36 has a state by state listing of the high cost areas. If your area is not listed then you are at the "floor" which is $271,050 maximum loan. This only applies to regular "forward" mortgages.
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