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S. 2191, The America's Climate Security Act of 2007 (31 comments ↓ | 9 wiki edits: view article ↓)

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S. 2191 would direct the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency to establish a program to decrease emissions of greenhouse gases.

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Michael

February 19, 2008, 12:19pm (report abuse)

yep

Mia

April 14, 2008, 2:39pm (report abuse)

I am working two jobs (part time) now, have 2 used cars and my husband is self employed. We are doing what we have to to survive and the ding dongs in Congress think I can afford this? They need to stop their own pay raises before I have to sacrifice anything else. They have a lot more money than I do. They are really out of touch. Cut some spending folks. Cut the pork.

Jan

April 14, 2008, 3:12pm (report abuse)

This is corruption at its finest! The EPA should fine the offenders for the pollution they produce and force the offending companies to invest in cleaning up their own systems to comply with reasonable limits of emissions. Trading in "permission slips" to pollute is just plain crazy!

Shona

April 14, 2008, 4:20pm (report abuse)

Are they out of their freaking minds!!! Surely this will not pass. But then you never know what those idiots in Washington will do next.

Donna

April 14, 2008, 4:53pm (report abuse)

I think it is about time we got rid of some of those people in Washington and put in some new ones who understand the deception in this.

greatdanes

April 14, 2008, 5:29pm (report abuse)

CORRUPTION is the RIGHT word.

Global warming "Horses Assess ". Everyone is Drinking from the Same Water trough. This Sh*t has to STOP. Call All representatives and tell the "Fools" Stop Destroying America and stop being Polite about the Message. Obliviously, they need a 2 x 4 to Hit them Up side the Head before they Wake Up and Do the Right thing for America.

Cher Blake

April 14, 2008, 5:55pm (report abuse)

No wonder manufacturing is dead in THIS COUNTRY. The EPA is an agency out of control. We need our own refineries once again and we need to bring manufacturing and jobs back to America. Our tax revenues need to be WISELY spent because we work hard to pay it.

Bob

April 14, 2008, 7:24pm (report abuse)

If Global warming were real at least one of these half wits would be demanding that we switch to hydrogen. BMW has a car that runs on hydrogen or gasoline.

Rob

April 20, 2008, 8:40am (report abuse)

dont be fooled, the technology to use cleaning energy has been around for a very long time. this is just another ploy to "STEAL" our money and gain complete control over the industry. VOTE NO TO S. 2191

we're watching you ;o)

Daniel

April 25, 2008, 6:51am (report abuse)

This is really smart. When we give all our money to the government then the climate will cool down... I don't think so.

You're Kidding

May 6, 2008, 2:58pm (report abuse)

Don't you think our economy is in bad enough shape already? Let's not add to the middle class burden. Cut government spending. They already waste enough of our tax money. Let's invest in renewable energy, like wind farms. Come on congress, give us a break, we ARE HURTING, gas, groceries, and utilities are high enough. Lets not add to the cost, let's find a way to reduce costs, please.

Hank

May 14, 2008, 4:25pm (report abuse)

The oil is in Texas, Oka., off the east and west coasts etc. The dipsticks are in Washington. Any questions??

Jubilator

May 22, 2008, 5:06am (report abuse)

If anyone on this site doesn't believe in global warming, they need to watch "The 11th Hour" sometime. We have to do something about it before we are all extinct. If only people would stop paying the illegal income tax we would have a lot more to spend on preventing global warming.

Shepard Humphries

May 27, 2008, 7:26pm (report abuse)

The 11th hour and other propaganda both for and against global warming are not good arguments for intelligent people. I appreciate what th einventor of the Internet has tried to do, but I prefer facts. (FYI, most mini-ice-ages end with some warming)

Confronting global warming is not a priority now... and if it is a problem, I trust the free Market to work it out.... look at the price of gas; $4.00! When it hits $6.00 more will be done to stop auto emissions than any governments dictates could!

Bryan Morton

July 15, 2008, 11:14pm (report abuse)

Why isn't there a requirement that each bill must prove its Constitutionality? The powers of the federal government are "few and enumerated." That wouldn't stop them, but it would at least slow 'em down a bit. It's time to vote out the incumbents and start fresh.

Wilson

July 16, 2008, 4:13pm (report abuse)

Global Warming is real. While variations in temperature do occur, it is the larger trend that we are concerned with. If you look at the level of emissions of CO2 since the late 1800s, they have skyrocketed.

Unfortunately, there are two types of people in America:

1. Extreme Neo-conservative Republicans in denial

2. Extreme Leftist Liberals who want to over-regulate

Ignoring global warming or denying it will not make it go away. Also, imposing stringent regulations in a quick fashion will kill the economy and create total havoc.

The measures to fight global warming must be imposed gradually over time. That doesn't mean at a snail's pace and it doesn't mean doing it overnight either.

America is being destroyed from within, by people so wrapped up in party ideology that they can no longer think for themselves.

John

July 18, 2008, 8:10pm (report abuse)

Measures to fight "global warming" should not be imposed on the American people by our legislators or anyone else. The science behind the theory of global warming is iffy at best. See for example the comments by the founder of the Weather Channel: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/11/07/weather-channel-founder-global-warming-greatest-scam-history

will

July 23, 2008, 5:43am (report abuse)

$13,000 a year would mean our home,and one of our cars would be gone.And one job would be devoted to paying this and daycare exclusively.

Global warming is probably one of the single most effective tools sociliast/marxist have ever had.

Raw power over every area of peoples lives created by fear and lies.

Martin

July 31, 2008, 3:46pm (report abuse)

If it's really going to cost $5,369.20 per person then I say we just let the planet die and party hard until then.

Still, if we paid all of this money we'd still just be effecting our own emissions. Other developing nations could be canceling out any reductions we make.

Steve

July 31, 2008, 9:35pm (report abuse)

Basing legislation on unproven scientific theory is beyond recklace, particularly given the cost. The globe may be getting warmer, but to suggest that it is man's fault alone is just another excuse to steal money and place controls on Americans.

Besides, even if we can reduce greenhouse gasses by 50%, China more than makes up the difference. In fact, we can reduce is by 100% here and not make a huge global impact. The only thing you end up doing it trashing America, and I can't quite get beyond the possibility that this is exactly what is going on.

The EPA is an out of control entity. To give it more power and money is an extremely dangerous move to both wallet and freedoms.

boba

August 23, 2008, 4:49am (report abuse)

Man-made global warming (or cooling) is a cosmic hoax. Do any of you fools (i.e. microscopic peons inhabiting this tiny blue dot in space) really think your farts and fornication's can have any effect on the rate of solar output (nuclear fusion / gravity equilibrium) humm...guess the real crisis here, may just be that our little "3 pound universe" just can't evolve/adapt/learn... fast enough! !

boba

August 23, 2008, 5:11am (report abuse)

So..., dump the 'Group Think', get the 'Big Picture' ?

kimbo

September 8, 2008, 10:52am (report abuse)

This IS legal plunder at its finest! In fact, every bill on this site is. Our congress is spending OUR money for this crap without knowing or caring if OUR families need it more. Please read and send these links to your congressmen and everyone you know. If they don't get this, VOTE THEM OUT!! It's the American citizen's responsibility to control our government. There is a difference in conservation and communism. Don't be fooled, "global warming" is all about money and power; but this time, in the name of "the planet", instead of "the proletariat".

http://www.fee.org/library/books/notyours.asp

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Ron P

September 10, 2008, 2:44pm (report abuse)

The Democrats have lost their minds or they just want to kill the economy. The trillions of dollars this will cost to implement this will be the final bullet to the head of the US taxpayer. Why not just shut down every oil fired vehicle, all power plants, every oil furnace and every wood fireplace and see what the future of the American economy will look like. The 3rd world will literally be US. If these idiots pass this then this country may as well fold. We need to get off foreign oil and to develop alternative energy but not this way.

Susan j

September 17, 2008, 2:47pm (report abuse)

Blame Bush! Blame Bush! That's all they can say. When do we start to put the blame where it really belongs? Hold these lunatics accountable for this crap they've tried to cram down our throats for the last 2 years while they've had control of both legislative bodies. When do we start putting the blame where it belongs? With the Democrat mudslingers! Elitist nobodies run our country and destroy it with every move they make. I have to go back to work now so they can steal more of my hard earned money.

Joe

September 19, 2008, 1:44am (report abuse)

Here's an idea - why don't we get rid of the pensions for federal employees and replace it with a 401k-only option. Then, use the savings to fund this piece of garbage bill that Al Gore inspired in his gargantuan carbon-foot print dwelling?

Panic early and often

September 27, 2008, 5:10am (report abuse)

Now we see why the big push for the Global Warming Panic. Now we see what they really wanted. More money from us with little oversight and a blank check for tomorrow. Will this do anything for the climate? Probably not, this IS government, after all. Whether global warming is true or not and whether something can be done about it or not, THIS is not the solution. THIS is just more money from folks who can't afford it going to politicians for boondoggle, pork barrel and pie in the sky.

Rob

October 5, 2008, 8:11am (report abuse)

$17,942.28?????

Ive got a better idea, create jobs for farmers and manufacturers of fuel, food, fiber, paper and medicine with industrial hemp and other sustainable alternatives (i.e. solar, wind, wave, etc.)

Stop polluting the planet with fossil fuels, stop cutting down our forests, stop poisoning our lands and water with pesticides.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CLEAN COAL AND NUCLEAR ENERGY CREATES NUCLEAR "WASTE"... STORING IT IN EXPENSIVE CONTAINERS UNDER MOUNTAINS IS PRETTY STUPID TOO!

P.S. Im not even a tree hugger and I get it!

Mike Hoppenero

October 18, 2008, 11:41am (report abuse)

I can't believe the leeches in congress spending taxpayer money that is being borrowed from foreigners and ringing up more debt. How naive they must think we are while they get the best retirement packages and self voted raise programs!

Paula

November 12, 2008, 3:50pm (report abuse)

This is one of the biggest BS bills I have ever seen in congress!!! That's it put an horrendous burden on everyday Americans to support the FLAWED THEORY of GLOBAL WARMING!!, The earth is warming so much that parts of the world are having their coldest winters ever!!!, And anyone who disputes these flawed theories are LABELED as KOOKS!!! If this theory had any merit, they would welcome the debate!!! THIS IS STUPID!!! WELCOME TO THE AGE OF OBAMA!!!!

Brian

November 20, 2008, 4:57pm (report abuse)

"The earth is warming so much that parts of the world are having the coldest winters ever".

How is it that such a high profile issue is so clearly completely misunderstood by so many? Seriously, do you guys think that "Global Warming" as it refers to global climate trends really means that winters are warmer everywhere in the world? When it snows, do you really sit around and say "see, there's no global warming"? How can people be so ignorant? Just more proof that our educational system is failing miserably.

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