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S. 206, The Social Security Fairness Act of 2007 (338 comments ↓ | 8 wiki edits: view article ↓)

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S. 206 would amend title II of the Social Security Act to repeal the Government pension offset and windfall elimination provisions.

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Joan Sullivent

January 31, 2007, 3:16pm (report abuse)

I am 66 y/o retired Civil Servant with both WEP offset and full GPO offset. My own Social Security benefit is just barely more than my Medicare premium. I have to work part time job just to survive. The passing of this bill would allow me to actually retire!

Diane Cordell

February 8, 2007, 9:28am (report abuse)

I am soon to retire and subject to the GPO and WEP. Having spent 15 years as a homemaker, now divorced, my spousal benefits are not available to me. I entered the workforce in my 40s with a high school education. Needless to say my403b will provide a minimal retirement income. the passage of this bill would give me the SS benefits I have earned.

Barbara Smith

February 8, 2007, 9:36pm (report abuse)

Please support the Social Security Fairness Act H. R 82.

I am an older teacher who returned to the classroom 10 years ago. I now get Social Security of about $800 per month. If I retire from teaching I will loose my SS and get only CA teacher's retirement of around $1000 per month I do not think it is fair to eliminate my SS.

I am penalized by returning to teaching. If my husband should die, I will no longer be eligible for his larger amount of SS. I know of several other teachers with the same problem.

Barbara A. Smith

William Reid

February 25, 2007, 1:26pm (report abuse)

I am a recently-retired postal worker with over 30 years of service. I paid enough into social security (40 quarters) to qualify for benefits. However, because I retired under the old CSRS system, I will be robbed of over 60 percent of my SS benefits under the windfall offset law. Now, there is talk on Capitol Hill of providing SS benefits to illegal aliens. Can any of you congressmen imagine how disenfranchising it is to hear of such propals when we older American citizens cannot collect the SS benefits that we rightfully earned? Don't we American workers deserve the same consideration as the immigrants who enter our country illegally?

Gail B.

February 27, 2007, 4:53pm (report abuse)

I worked for 18 years under Social Security, and last 29 years not under SS. I am 66 and trying to retire, but cannot because of WEP. The little bit I will get from the annuity/pension will not be enough to live on if I don't get full SS. Full SS is very small because it is based on my first 18 yrs of work, but now SS will give me only less than half of the SS benefits I was always told I was earning and would receive when I retired.

Bob W.

March 2, 2007, 3:23pm (report abuse)

I worked for 10 years paying into SS while in the military. After leaving the military, I began my Federal Civil Service career paying into CSRS. I’m now a retired federal employee working as a consultant and back paying into SS. I expect to continue working and paying into SS for another 10 years or so. Note the key word in all this, paying. To me SS is not a gift but a paid for annuity. I paid my premiums but will not see the annuity. If the government feels they don’t owe me the annuity they could at least refund my premiums.

C.S.

March 5, 2007, 2:15pm (report abuse)

I worked & pd SS for 21 yrs. I have since worked 22 yrs in a govt job. I pd taxes and contributed to the economy. Now I'm penalized. So unfair!! And why do only 15 states treat their citizens this way?!

Bill Collins

March 5, 2007, 10:11pm (report abuse)

Why are certain government workers robbed and cheated like this? I counted on my small Social Security benefit that I had paid into for the first 15 years of my working life. It is already reduced during the last 20 years I have not contributed. Now, they will rob me of two thirds of whats left. My Soc. Sec. statement indicates my benefit is around $1,000 per month, but I will only receive about $340 per month. How do this rich lawmakers sleep at night? I've never hated so much!

BILL AYMOND

March 10, 2007, 3:18pm (report abuse)

RETIRED FROM A STATE JOB AND MY SS
BENEFITS WERE CUT IN HALF AND I STILL PAY TAXES ON MY STATE RETIREMENT NOTHING IS FAIR IT'S TO
HARD TO WORK ANYMORE THAT MONEY
MEANT A LOT TO ME AND MY WIFE .

charlotte collins

March 16, 2007, 1:54pm (report abuse)

What I don't understand about these laws is that they apply to only public service employees in 15 states...not the entire country...how unfair is that?? If, I am wrong on this statement, please explain this to me.

Mary Helmer

March 18, 2007, 2:41pm (report abuse)

I am 67, retired State employee and I was counting on the Social Security I'd paid prior to becoming a state employee. My SS has been cut to about 40% and this means that I cannot afford anything but the very basics. I am trying to find another job, knowing that I am tied up regarding adding to my retirement income. If I return to government employment, I just loose the rest of the SS and if I return to private employment then I will only receive and increase of about 40% of anything I pay into SS.
Right now it is a toss up between gasoline and medicine.

Please repeal this unfair law!

Bonnie W.

March 19, 2007, 2:54pm (report abuse)

I AM A CSRS WORKER, I FEEL THAT IT IS WRONG FOR ME TO WORK AND PUT IN THE CREDITS TO DRAW THE MINIMUM SS AND BECAUSE I RETIRE FROM A CSRS JOB I CANNOT DRAW WHAT IS DUE ME, BUT SOMEONE ELSE CAN WORK A JOB AND RETIRE FROM A COMPANY AND DRAW A PENSION AND SS AND NOT BE PENALIZED. IF I PAID INTO SS, I AM ENTITLED TO THE SS CHECK IN FULL.

Neal S

March 22, 2007, 3:43pm (report abuse)

My wife taught in the public schools for 16 years beginning at age 40. She was fully vested in Social Security before she began teaching. She had no choice but to participate in the state public teachers' retirement system, which did not involve Social Security. She now draws a very small monthly check from that retirement system. And her reward for 16 years of public service??? The government will penalized her by paying only half of the Social Security benefits she earned prior to her teaching career..AND when I die (I paid full Social Security throughout my career), she will be denied spousal Social Security benefits. THIS IS CRIMINAL.. I AM ASHAMED OF MY GOVERNMENT FOR DOING THIS! Public servants should be rewarded by their government...not cheated. At the very least, they should receive what everyone else is entitled to. That's all this bill is asking. Yet I fear that the Congress will simply allow this bill to die and try to tell us "we tried".

Robert Nemnich

March 23, 2007, 10:40am (report abuse)

I also feel the recipient should get all social security benefits for which they are entitled. Government pensions should not effect the social security benefits or social security should have any effect on pensions. Both have been earned through contributions.

Karen & Richard

March 26, 2007, 2:13pm (report abuse)

We are very disgusted that AARP chooses not to support legislation in the form of H.R.82/S.206 that would eliminate the Government Pension Offset and the Windfall Elimination Provision from Social Security. The involvement of AARP is vital to repealing these provisions that penalize educators and public sector employees.

AARP has an obligation to help make sure no educator or public sector employee loses benefits they or their spouses have earned.

Richard & Karen

March 26, 2007, 10:28pm (report abuse)

The Social Security Fairness Act (S.206) has been referred to THE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE. You can help support the effort to eliminate the WEP / GPO provisions of the Social Security Act by calling Senator Baucus (D-Montana), Finance Committee Chair @ 202/224-2651 and also contacting him through http://baucus.senate.gov/contact/offices.cfm
Another ranking member of the Finance Committee is Senator Grassley (R-Iowa). He can be reached @ 202/224-3744 as well as @ http://grassley.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Offices. Tell them that you support the Social Security Fairness Act (S.2 6) and that you want them to move it out of committee.
03/26/2007

Deborah Simpson

March 30, 2007, 5:12pm (report abuse)

I began earning wages when I was 15 years old. Illness caused me to be unable to work for about 4 years. Having completed my BA and now working on my teaching credential, I am about to realize a lifelong dream of becoming a teacher. To my dismay, I find in when I become employed as a teacher I will lose my social security. I am 54 years old. I will teach but I am incensed I have to give up money which I am entitled to receive upon my retirement. It makes no sense and seems almost criminal. I have no choice or say. I cannot even dispense it to my children. Where does it go?
This situation must be remedied if we are to attract people to the teaching profession.

AE

April 2, 2007, 9:59am (report abuse)

I have paid into SS for over 23 years. It is totally unfair to have my SS benefits reduced because I receive a Civil Service pension of which I had to contribute 10% of my salary into.
To know that there are people from other countries who have never paid one red cent into our SS system and able to collect SS based on their spouses SS and then move back to their country overseas where all our SS money will spent tells us that our system is broken and needs to be fixed.

Bill Jamieson

April 3, 2007, 9:37pm (report abuse)

I worked for over 30 years in the private sector. I then changed careers to teach in our local public schools. WHERE is the fairness in reducing my social security benefit up to 40% because I chose to work the last 10 years in the teaching profession? This is NOT right.

Joe Mesmer

April 4, 2007, 5:28am (report abuse)

I retired after 25 years service loyal to one employer. I paid my own police and fire pension and worked 20 to 30 hours a week on part time jobs so that I could receive SS and help with my retirement. Guess what, I still am working part time and my employer and myself are still paying into SS but I still am penalized under the Windfall Act. I urge the hundreds of thousands of AMERICANS being penalized not to vote party lines but instead vote for the lawmakers that support changing this law and make it FAIR to the hundreds of thousands being penalized

Lynda

April 6, 2007, 11:23am (report abuse)

I have just retired with over 30 years of service to the Feds. Additionally, I have contributed over 15 years (well over 40 quarters) into SS from full time and part time civilan jobs. I will lose over 60% of my SS annuity because of this Windfall Elimination and the Government Offset Provision. To say I am upset is to say the least. These provisions must be eliminated and the only way that will happen is if S.206 (and H.R.82) is enacted.
We all know how unfair the GPO and the WEP is, and we all know that providing SS benefits to illegals is a total travesty to all of the dedicated and loyal civil servants who contributed to what they thought was going to be their retirement funds.....THIS BILL MUST GET THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES; WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN, WRITE TO YOUR SENATOR. WRITE TO YOUR NEWSPAPERS AND TELL THEM ABOUT THIS TRAVESTY. We contributed to Social Security to provide for OUR benefits....not for illegals.

Richard & Karen956A5

April 9, 2007, 9:37am (report abuse)

Have you made that call to Senator Baucus and Senator Grassley of THE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE?

Their telephone numbers appear six postings prior to this one.

Nancy

April 11, 2007, 8:04pm (report abuse)

My Postal Pension will be $683 for 13 and 1/2 years of service, by no means what a 30 year Postal pension would be, yet GPO and WEP affect me the same way. My SS statement says I have $400 coming for 12 years of previous work before entering the Postal service, but because of WEP and GPO I will get "NO" SS. How does the Government think that I can live on $683? This is so unfair!

Alyse

April 12, 2007, 5:50pm (report abuse)

In my own case, I worked for twenty solid years and paid in on social security before I began teaching at the later age of 40, and when I did begin teaching, a portion of the school year was taxed to pay social security. As a result, I have ended up contributing a large portion of my earnings into the social security system.

Now, I find I don't have nearly enough from teachers retirement and that I will receive only a mere pittance of what I contributed to social security due to the Windfall provisions. It is grossly unfair that the money I contributed for all those years is now being used to support the system rather than to support me!

Our senators need to speak up and support all of us who worked hard and contributed so that we can receive the financial security that we were promised and justly deserve.

James

April 15, 2007, 9:52pm (report abuse)

I have worked 35 years under CSRS and 20 under Social Security. When I started working under CSRS in 1964, I planned to split my career between public service and private enterprise under Social Security. In 1964 I would have received full retirement under both systems. I thought I had a contract with my employeer (Federal Government). Much later the law was changed to greatly reduce my Social Security benefits. This is not fair!! Please change the law to give me the full Social Security benefits that I have earned.

Gail Bales

April 21, 2007, 3:33pm (report abuse)

Taught CA '69-'97. Began in NJ in '62. SS was taken out of NJ paycheck.

Worked private sector, moonlighting; earned SS 40 qtrs by '06.

Friends who NEVER worked (spouses earned in top 5% bracket), get % of spouse's SS. Law written at its inception is outdated.

I earned private SS qtrs paid SS tax & am penalized by draconian WEP & GPO.

I receive SS $105 a mo. $94 is taken for Med.B leaving me $11 a mo. in SS.

If spouse predeceases me, I get NO spousal SS benefits; his income was earned in CA, comm. prop. state. Married 30 yrs. WEP & GPO are unfair redistribution of my earned benefit.

Repeal WEP/GPO. If citizen pays into SS, give them their due. If spouse paid & receives SS but dies, pay the surviving spouse her SS due from com. property of marriage.

Written, passed petitions, phoned members of Cong. for 10 yrs. NOTHING has been repealed.

Please repeal WEP/GPO during this session of Cong.

Respectfully,

Gail Bales
Anaheim CA 92807
714.998.5614

Richard E. Oehlers

April 25, 2007, 4:09pm (report abuse)

I am a retired police officer from Toledo, Ohio. I worked under Social Security before joining the police department, during my time on the department I worked parttime jobs and contributed to S.S. We have friend that never paid into the system and are collecting more that I am.
Richard E. Oehlers
Riverview, Fl 33569

John

April 26, 2007, 7:35pm (report abuse)

When I sat with a rep from social security who figured my s.s. payment, she shook her head and apologized then said you would probably get more if you were illegal. What a comment , but I guess what she really said is your country no longer cares how hard you worked. Better luck in the next life.

Lucy

April 27, 2007, 6:44pm (report abuse)

I am a government employee, widowed, recently diagnosed with Parkinson's. Little did I know when I took a government job. What message is our government sending to us? Don't work for us because you will be penalized? Do you think this will attract good, loyal employees?

Maxine L. Eaves

April 27, 2007, 6:46pm (report abuse)

LIKE SO MANY OTHERS,I AM SUBJECT TO BOTH THE GPO AND WEP. I WENT TO WORK OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, PAID SS PREMIUMS ACCORDING TO LAW, HAVE THE REQUIRED 40 QUARTERS, BUT AM NOT DRAWING ALL I EARNED DUE TO THE WEP BECAUSE I WENT TO WORK AT AGE 31 FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT! A SPOUSE WHO NEVER WORKED A DAY OR PAID A PENNY INTO THE SS SYSTEM CAN DRAW HALF THE AMOUNT THEIR SPOUSE DRAWS - YET BECAUSE I WORKED FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT I CANNOT GET ALL OF WHAT I EARNED NOR A PENNY OF MY SPOUSE'S SS DUE TO THE GPO. I AM NOW 71 YRS. OLD NEED, WANT, AND EXPECT WHAT I EARNED AS PROMISED TO ME AND IS RIGHTFULLY DUE ME.

R. Zbella

April 29, 2007, 11:38am (report abuse)

All of us who worked and paid into Social Security deserve to receive all of our benefits. Why should we be cheated because we changed careers or worked part-time in addition to a full-time job just to make ends meet. Many of us are depending on our Social Security benefits for retirement income. Please do all you can to pass this bill!!

GA Teacher

April 29, 2007, 8:47pm (report abuse)

GA is a mixed state, with 32 school systems not in SS. Those who work in a SS paying system do not have a problem. I will have to work in SS to get a portion of an ex husband's SS to add to my TRS. Lucky me, there are school systems that pay SS so I can go to one of them without moving.

Every year, my Union Local does a workshop about this--many are not aware and some don't believe it is true.

This was a "fix" to SS in the late 70s. It let non profits opt out of SS. Non profit hospital, fire, police, and educators. There is no money to change the law.

Adrienne Angelo

April 30, 2007, 5:06pm (report abuse)

Please pass this bill!!! As a retired teacher in Maine,my pension is pathetic and no one could possibly support themselves on it. It is discriminatory for me to now be earning SS benefits to support myself and have them taken from me...especially since many states do not honor this provision.
I would never persuade any young educators to stay in the teaching profession because of this unfair legislation!

Ronald Bush

May 9, 2007, 4:19pm (report abuse)

Thank you for making this forum available. I certainly hope the excellent comments contained herein can be forwarded to all Washington Representatives and Senators.

This is an excellent and deceptively simple piece of legislation. It hits the crux of the problem with the Government Pension Offset and Windfall Elimination Provision squarely.

Tom

May 14, 2007, 6:31pm (report abuse)

A couple of comments herein seem close to home. I woked in the public sector for several years then went to work for local government. No SS was witheld. I was retired on a disability. I then worked in the public sector for a few more years. I recieve full disability and full SS benefits.There is an exception in the SS regs.(If you were eligible to retire from your job on or before Dec. 31 1985 you can get your full SS benefit. Remember you did not have to retire, just be eligible to retire Process is to lengthy to describe here, but I can explain by e-mail if anyone is interested. tomgul@comcast.net

Kathy A.

May 16, 2007, 2:27pm (report abuse)

I worked full time in the public sector for 10 years and then part time for over 30 years. I am a teacher aide in the state of LA. Now that I thought I could retire I find that my social social security benifits and widows death benifits will be cut because I am drawing a small retirement from the state. This does not seem fair. Members of the house and senate are able to double dip. Why are we being punished for working?

Jim B

May 17, 2007, 8:08am (report abuse)

I worked as a police officer for 25 yrs and retired with a minimal retirement, hardly enough to survive these many years later. Prior to that I paid SS on other jobs I worked and while in the Marine Corps.
After retirement I worked for 12 yrs as a self-employed Private Investigator and paid into the system both as an employee and employer. Now my SS is cut in half because I was a police officer even though I paid more into the system for about 20 years as than someone working in the private sector. Yet anyone can come into this county and work 10 years and only pay the employee share and receive 100%. This is not fair.

DONNA V.

May 29, 2007, 1:36pm (report abuse)

SINCE RETIRING FROM TEACHING, I HAVE WORKED AND HAD TO PAY INTO SS. WHY?? HOW CAN THE GOVERNMENT TAKE MONEY FROM ME KNOWING FULL WELL I WILL NEVER RECEIVE A PENNY OF SS. MY HUSBAND PAID INTO SS FOR 45 YEARS AND PASSED AWAY 3 YEARS AGO. DO I RECEIVE WIDOWS BENEFITS? NO, BECAUSE A CHOSE TO BE A PUBLIC EMPLOY. FORGET PARY LINES AND VOTE ACCORDINGLY.

Thomas F. Bennis

May 29, 2007, 8:08pm (report abuse)

Including my military service, I have 40 years of public service, mostly in law enforcement. I retired in 2004, and will begin collecting social security in two months. In reference to this bill I have been writing to my representatives and senators for years to no avail. I suggest that all teachers, policemen, firefighters, and other civil servants who are, or will be, affected by this unfair law, unite and vote only for those candidates who will get this bill out of committee and into law.

r & k

June 1, 2007, 7:17am (report abuse)

PLEASE FOLKS, PUT YOUR ENERGY WHERE IT WILL DO SOME GOOD!

You can help support the effort to eliminate the WEP/GPO provisions of the Social Security Act by calling the office of Senator Baucus (D-Montana), Finance Committee Chair @ 202/224-2651 and also contacting him through http://baucus.senate.gov/contact/offices.cfm

Another ranking member of the Finance Committee to contact is is Senator Grassley (R-Iowa). He can be reached @ 202/224-3744 as well as @ http://grassley.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Offices.

Tell them that you support the Social Security Fairness Act (S.206) and that you want them to move it out of committee.

For Heavens Sake,TAKE ACTION TODAY!
06/01/2007

Robert L

June 2, 2007, 1:39pm (report abuse)

I also have been effected by the GPO and WPA. My work history has included paying into the social security and government pension. The only way in my opinion to get the acts repealed is to contact your representatives throughout this country voicing your opinions. In order to get action, everyone in this country has to stand up and be heard. The government pension cost me $147 from my social security.

Claudia B

June 8, 2007, 11:06am (report abuse)

I am 65 and ready to retire with a small government retirement. I also worked and paid in more than 40 quarters to SS but am unable to receive the SS pension because of WEP. It is unfair to pay into the system and not be able to draw that money.

carol hughes

June 25, 2007, 6:15pm (report abuse)

I paid into Social Security for 25 years. The last 12 years of my employment I worked in Public Health (I am an RN), and taught nursing at a college. I DID NOT KNOW UNTIL ONE YEAR BEFORE I RETIRED I WOULD LOOSE 66% OF MY SOCIAL SECURITY! Also, my son has worked 15 years for Boeing, received in BS in Math and wanted to teach middle-school math. When he found out he would loose his social security, he continued working for pooring. California lost an EXCELLENT math teacher.

Virginia

June 25, 2007, 6:27pm (report abuse)

I worked for local government for 18 years and paid into SS for 17 of those years until they opted out of SS. I also paid into the government pension plan for all 18 years. I left government and had my own business for the last 20 years. Now they say I didn't have "significant earnings" these last 20 years and the Windfall applies to me because of my government pension. Why?? I paid SS on my government earnings for 17 of the 18 years and SS on my business earnings for the last 20 years. Also paid SS on my earnings for the 10 years before government work. I don't see why someone working for the private sector who pays into SS and receives a pension from the private company can receive full SS and I can't.

Katt

June 28, 2007, 4:30pm (report abuse)

The government should not penalize people who have worked all their lives, paid into SS, and then gone into 2nd careers such as teaching. People should be able to retire with the monies that have been taken from their paychecks without having a choice. Those who paid into SS should get their SS AND any money in a retirement system. It is sad that the government is so quick to fund pork projects and give so much of our taxpayer money away but is so slow to protect the middle class worker who is the backbone of this country. Unfortunately Congress suffers from "OPMS"- other people's money syndrome- it spends it freely but not where it always should. I for one am tired of paying taxes on money I earn, money I save, and money I spend. There is too much abuse of citizen money and this is one issue that demonstrates it.

Guy and Myrna

July 2, 2007, 3:39pm (report abuse)

After more than 30 years working under CSRS including 4 years serving in the military and nearly 16 years paying into Social Security I receive barely 60 percent of the Social Security that I should receive. Those that retired by the middle 80s receive their full social security. The system rightfully is computed to help those that made less income but everyone that qualifies should receive the amount based on this same formula.

Joe and Betty

July 2, 2007, 9:26pm (report abuse)

We too find it hard to understand how a federal law (windfall act) can only be enacted in 15 states. If it is federal it should be all states or no states. I have worked all my life and only the last 8 1/2 years as a state employee and now I am denied 60% of my ss. How can anyone feel it is ok to give ss to undocumented people when those of us who were born and worked for 50 years in this country can't receive ss ???????

Kenneth M.

July 8, 2007, 11:41pm (report abuse)

I spent just under 32 years in the military (active, guard, & reserve) while working 34 years as a federal employee under CSRS. Now I'm told my SS benefit earned thru paying into SS during all those military service years will be cut by over 50%. Tell that to the guard and reserve civil servants serving in Iraq. The government thanks you for your service!

Jason Lillebo

July 10, 2007, 7:11pm (report abuse)

This definitely needs to pass. Those of us who are teachers in Nevada and work extra jobs that pay into Social Security will never see anything from our contributions otherwise. As someone else stated, if we contribute to the system, we should get benefits. Period. Why should the fact that we also get a pension from the government matter?

James III

July 11, 2007, 9:29am (report abuse)

Tune into C-SPAN ! Sen. Bill Nelson
Fla. (D) is pushing S 935. He
has been pushing this bill for
"7 years". 39 co sponsors.
" Repeals certain provisions which
require the "offset" of amounts paid in dependency and idemnity
compensation from Survivor Benefit
Plan (SBP) annuities for the sur-
viving spouses of former military
personnel who are "entitled" to
military retired pay or would be entitled to such pay except for being under 60 years of age."
Sound familiar ? If passed this
could lead the way for elimination
of Social Security "offsets".
Phone or email your Rep. or Senator
ASAP! Keep the pressure on !!!!

Minnie Bullard

July 11, 2007, 6:40pm (report abuse)

Please support the Social Security Fairness Act. I am a retired school teacher who paid into Social Security for over 36 years. I will receive 1/3 of my benefits because of my retirement in the School system. The GPO and WEP should not apply only in 15 states out of 50. And only apply to teachers, fireman, and police. Everyone should be held accountable to these laws, including government employees , or no one should be penalized for choosing to teach, be a fireman or police person.Please support the SocIal Security Fairness Act.

Cynthia Oeser

July 11, 2007, 7:52pm (report abuse)

Please pass the Social Security Fairness Act. (S.206). I am a retiring teacher in California (gradually being forced out because I make too much per hour), and I put in all my Social Security quarters before I started teaching. I only have 17 years of teaching service and I need ALL of my SS to survive. This is a very unfair thing, the way it is offset. My next door neighbor is retired military and retired post office and n either of his pensions are offset. Please , please pass this.

Brian Marcks

July 13, 2007, 7:53am (report abuse)

I worked for 27 years in the private sector, paying into SS each paycheck, but will only get 40% SS benefits, as I took a State job (23 yrs.) and need to work to 70 to get more SS benefits.

R & K

July 14, 2007, 9:02am (report abuse)

The Latest News:
House Ways and Means Chairman Announces Intent to Hold Hearing on Social Security Offsets!
Go to: http://www.nea.org/lac/socsec/latestnews.html Is your Congressman and Senator on the list of co-sponsors?

Jim R

July 17, 2007, 10:22pm (report abuse)

Had 20 years of Federal service under CSRS. Had 2 in Army with tour in Vietnam. Went out with 40% Disability Retirement. Worked in private sector to complete SS credits as well as to earn additional income. I have NO WINDFALL by any means, yet my SS was cut by 50% or more. If I should ever get the full amount of SS I'll still have a pretty low income. SSA seems to like it the way it is as if its their own money they would be paying out if, by some miracle, this thing is ever repealed. The projected billions it would cost the fund over time is a drop in the bucket compared to wasted Government spending over the same term. What if it were to be paid retroactively to make the whole issue entirely fair. If our leaders don't at least get this to the floor for debate in this session I may give up after monitoring this closely for 3 1/2 years now. Best of luck to all of you/us.

Kim Cleveland

July 22, 2007, 11:57am (report abuse)

I paid all of quarters for Social Secuity and have been married for 52 years. I worked as a teacher for 25 years and paid into STRS. I get a lower rate from my retirement because I did not work 30 years, and almost all of my social security was taken away. I am getting 26.00 a month. I had to work till I was 68 years for 25 years in teaching.

Henry Senatore

July 23, 2007, 9:52am (report abuse)

The GPO reduces a spouse's Social Security benefits by two-thirds if his or her partner received pension payments from a non-Social Security plan. Further, the complicated formula for the WEP cuts Social Security pension benefits by about 40 percent for retirees who also get pension checks from a non-Social Security plan. Seventy-five percent of GPO/WEP effected individuals are women and forty percent are widowed. These women may suffer up to 50% reduction in their benefits according to National Active and Retired Federal Employee Association President Margaret Baptiste.

Proposed legislation to repeal these provisions have, collectively in the House and Senate, many co-sponsors. Yet these proposals languish in Committees. Your Senator/Representative may tell you they co-sponsor, but what are they doing to get the bill our of Committee for vote?! Write or Call them - get these out of Congressional Committees for positive vote. It is time to repeal GPO and WEP, now!

Tony M

July 25, 2007, 7:47pm (report abuse)

The government pension offset & windfall elimation provision penalize pepole who served their government. This is a disrrace to our country. I notice congress & the president is exempt along with federal judges.

CONSTANCE S.

July 26, 2007, 3:39pm (report abuse)

Why am I being penalized for 41 years of public service?

Sharon P

July 28, 2007, 12:05pm (report abuse)

I worked over 40 years for NYS and private sectors - and went on total disability after this time. Because one of my NYS (part-time employers did not take out Social Security Taxes, I am penalized now 50% of my Social Security Disabilty I receive. ALL the taxes I did pay into Social Security for over 30 years don't count!! This is so unfair to so much of the population!! I am glad enough people have brought this issue to our representatives and please, everyone, make your phone calls and send letters to your reps so they know how we feel-- I have!!

Mark B

August 2, 2007, 6:13am (report abuse)

Congratulations, you all got what you voted for, a non-guaranteed *retirement* plan forced upon you by being duped into thinking it was Government's responsibility to manage your retirement.

Just think about what you might be living off of if you could have kept your 15% a week and invested it wisely, or simply stuck it in a savings account to earn even the smallest amount of interest. You wouldn't be compaining about how unfair things are right now, that's for sure.

All this bill will do is pacify you until they figure out how to take it from you again, if they haven't done so already.

R & K

August 2, 2007, 9:28pm (report abuse)

W O W! Mark B reads like a Michael Moore cohort. Please read on . . . .

R & K

August 2, 2007, 9:36pm (report abuse)

Congress adjourns, for August Recess, at the end of this week and will not return to work in Washington, DC until after Labor Day. SO, WHERE DO WE STAND?
H.R. 82, which would fully repeal both the Government Pension Offset and Windfall Elimination Provision, have garnered record numbers of cosponsors. Charlie Rangel, Ch. of the House Ways and Means Committee, has announced plans to hold a hearing on the bill. The Ways and Means hearing have not yet been scheduled. Your
Representative may tell you they co-sponsor, but have you asked what are they doing to get the bill out of the Committee?
Congress won't do a thing unless they hear from their constituents. You can make a difference by: Telling your friends, family and colleagues across the country about this unfairness. Writing, e-mailing, faxing or calling your
members of Congress is the only way THE SOCIAL SECURITY FAIRNESS ACT OF 2007 is going to get the attention it deserves.

James III

August 3, 2007, 8:18am (report abuse)

As usual when a piece of legislations "for deserving citizens" is getting close to possible passage..the "fiscal
neo-cons" come out of the closet
to be snide. I have many friends
who have decent retirements due to
solid investments and a 401 K.
But not ONE is interested in giving
up their "full Social Security Check" which was justly earned over
the years. That's WHAT we want
our "Full check" not one with a
40-60% offset ! I bet the complaining "neo-cons" are lard
asses who never served their
country - in the military or
otherwise. They are called "chicken
hawks" for good reason !

Bien Hoa - Sully 67-68

James M

August 11, 2007, 12:27pm (report abuse)

Once again Republican Legislators are unfairly taking benefits away from people who worked hard all their lives to be eligible for Social Security.

shawn

August 15, 2007, 4:03pm (report abuse)

social security is doomed and I want my money back! If they would just let me invest all of my own money I would be set to retire. It is just a scheme to allow the government and the elderly people that "lived it up" their whole lives instead of saving to leach off of the children of the united states. It sick to mortgage your children's future this has to stop.

Ron

August 16, 2007, 11:27am (report abuse)

Hi, I had well over 40 quarters before I took a state job in Mass. It was a bit of a surprise to find out that I would only recieve a portion of my Soc. Sec. benefits due to GPO/WEP. Not only that, a State empolyee in Mass. is told that after so many years he can expect an 80% retirement. Then they ask you if you ever heard of Option C. If you want your wife to get any benefits should you die first, you must take Option C. That reduces the 80% to 60%. tch tch..huh! It is dificult to find out these things, AFTER you retire.
Lets pass these bills ASAP!!!

Louise O

August 20, 2007, 11:04am (report abuse)

We are writing to support H R 82 ("named" the Social Security Fairness Act). You are probably familiar with the Bill. We ask for your support.

I am a two career school teacher ( stay at home mother to raise our children and a 15 year teacher ). I receive a modest (hundreds of dollars a month) retirement from Cal STRS. I will NOT be eligible for my spouse's Social Security Survivor benefits if he predeceases me. My spouse worked hard for Social Security benefits, but because I was a teacher I will not get the benefits. I am being penalized for helping children. This is wrong.

Please tell all your friends, colleagues, and representatives that this Fairness Act needs to be moved into law.

Steve O

August 20, 2007, 11:14am (report abuse)

I decided to return to teaching after "retiring" from my corporate career. This should be a good thing, as I am teaching methematics. But, I will be penalized if I teach too long .... my Cal STRS eligibility will erode my Social Security benefit. This is a disincentive. Why would people who have had long private sector careers ever want to help out by teaching math, science, and languages? They will not want to erode their social security benefits.

Please strongly support HR 82, and keep us updated on the status of this important piece of legislation.

R & K [aka: Richard & Karen]

August 25, 2007, 12:11pm (report abuse)

URGENT! Go to . Make your voice heard today! SIGN NEA's ELECTRONIC PETITION!!

R & K, again

August 25, 2007, 12:15pm (report abuse)

Sorry. The web-site for the petition is: http://www.nea.org/lac/socsec/latestnews.html

Lynn

August 26, 2007, 5:01pm (report abuse)

charlotte collins
What I don't understand about these laws is that they apply to only public service employees in 15 states...not the entire country...how unfair is that?? If, I am wrong on this statement, please explain this to me.

Charlotte the 15 states involved have separate retirement systems in place for their employees. Those states having no windfall elinination don't have pensions, so their employees use SS for their pension.

Helen Stewart

August 29, 2007, 12:36pm (report abuse)

I am a retired teacher and my husband paid into Social Security for forty eight years and since I am under PERA I have been denied his benefits which certainly is unfair so I feel I am being discriminated against for wanting a higher standard of living because I worked outside the home. If I stayed at home I would receive his benefits. The Social Security Fairness Act needs to be passed.

R & K

September 4, 2007, 8:08am (report abuse)

Folks, if you have'nt gone to: [http://www.nea.org/lac/socsec/latestnews.html] and made your voices heard by signing the petition, you need to do that TODAY!

~ TAKE ACTION, NOW ~

Julie Davis

September 4, 2007, 9:02pm (report abuse)

My 84 year old aunt is struggling to make it but because she worked for the federal government, she has not been able to get any SS benefits for the 30 years she's been a widow.

Ken Elstein

September 7, 2007, 10:09pm (report abuse)

Several Senators who are also Presidential candidates have not signed on among the 34 bipartisan co-sponsors. Among them NOT YET co-sponsoring the bill are Democrats Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, and Republicans John McCain, Sam Brownback, and Chuck Hagel. Please urge them to support the bill. [The only House member running without co-sponsoring HR 82 is Rep. Tancredo.]

Dinah Witczak

September 8, 2007, 12:47pm (report abuse)

After ten years in the private sector, time off to raise children, I am now divorced and working in the public sector. It is irritating that I will have worked thirty years altogether and retire with less than others who have also worked thirty years or less but were not subject to windfall or offset.

James III

September 8, 2007, 1:18pm (report abuse)

Friday, September 7, 2007 was a good day for Americans and those
striving to obtain a college education. Congress passed the College Cost Reduction & Access Act
at a cost of 20.9 billion dollars.
College costs have soared 40% the
last 5 years. This is the largest
over haul in more than 60 years. President Bush said he would sign
the bill ! Keep the faith and keep the pressure on ! Congress is in
a positive frame of mind to help
its citizens. The Social Security
Fairness Act - if passed - will
cost 67 billion over 10 years. Or,
only 6 months of the Iraq War bill..

Vietnam Vet - Bien Hoa 67-68

Dave

September 12, 2007, 9:58am (report abuse)

How unfair can a law be? If you are not going to give me my social security then stop taking it out of my paychecks! Don't penalize me for working two jobs most of my life.

rgiles

September 13, 2007, 3:20pm (report abuse)

: The Social Security benefit reductions that apply to workers whose employers do not participate in Social Security often come as a surprise to hardworking public servants who are about to retire. Moreover, the GPO and the WEP are widely acknowledged to be 'blunt instruments.' That is, they can produce undesirable, unpredictable, and inequitable results that vary based on the individual circumstances of workers and their families. Finally, they often leave workers with less than they had anticipated in retirement--and can even leave people with too little to make ends meet. The issue is particularly salient now as many more of these affected employees are reaching retirement age without having been aware of the impact on their potential Social Security benefits of being employed by an entity which does not participate in Social Security.

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