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S. 1634, The Northern Mariana Islands Covenant Implementation Act (366 comments ↓ | 3 wiki edits)
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S. 1634 would implement further the Act approving the Covenant to Establish a Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands in Political Union with the United States of America.
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James Mendiola Jr.
July 2, 2007, 6:56pm (report abuse)Mr. Dimaguiba,
Thank you for your statement and since we are formalizing our sentiments, I would like to reciprocate...you have my respect, as well.
In answer to your question, I can sympathize but I really cannot empathize. I mean I have worked in a foreign country before and I can understand the challenges. I think my aggressive form of debate might have given the wrong impression of what I stand for. I am for increasing the minimum wage. But, not because it is going to help non-residents, but because it makes economic sense in the longrun. I am actually for allowing for the petition of U.S. citizenship for non-residents working here for 10 years, if you can believe that. But, my problem with this bill are spots like Section 6(g), which seemingly nulls CNMI Immigration laws.
James Mendiola Jr.
July 2, 2007, 7:07pm (report abuse)The people of the CNMI willingly offered 14 strategically important islands to the United States to become part of the American family. We negotiated an uncommon accord with a dynamic country, that clearly states OUR RIGHT TO SELF-GOVERNANCE. If you take a look at Section 6(g), it basically says that the immigration law which had governed the CNMI will no longer apply in the future, and IT WILL NOT APPLY retroactively as grounds for inadmissibility.
Look, and I am tired of stating this, non-residents have contributed to the betterment of the CNMI, but the CNMI cannot accept a bill that undermines the laws created under the auspices of the covenant...especially after how much the people of the CNMI have given away to become Americans. What good will it do anyone in the CNMI if we accept a Federal Immigration bill which blatantly inserts clauses that eat away at the principals we laid into the covenant agreement.
mark
July 2, 2007, 11:56pm (report abuse)Hey Phil, what will happen with Bridge Investment Group's plan for a casino/hotel/golf course if this bill becomes law? I imagine you guys were already dealt a big blow with the 50 cent minimum wage increase. Would immigration takeover kill your company's future in Tinian? That blows.
Melberlin
July 3, 2007, 7:48pm (report abuse)It seems that Taotao Tano's placard last Saturday is agreeing with what happening with the campers behaving along the Beach Road last July 4. You can see that they really own this land, they enclose all areas with tapes that is so spacious even for all their encampment and family members. No more space for most of the foreign spectators that are joining this memorable occassion.
Eric
July 4, 2007, 2:53am (report abuse)The site says to comment on the bill not to blast each other here. Time to take this approch on this island, it's time for a change. Life here is not getting better anymore, it's the other way around. There's no more solution to the bleeding wound, we need a surgeon.
Melberlin
July 4, 2007, 4:56am (report abuse)Thanks Eric, you are right, just pity on my children and the rest looking for space to park under trees but in vain. Anyway we enjoy the show, despensa to everybody especially to our comrades here in Saipan. You are great and understanding
Merberlin
July 4, 2007, 5:02am (report abuse)I've been here for 20 years now and have a great experience more than frustration, that's life wherever you go in this planet. More power to everybody who are commenting in this site. Happy liberation day!!!
Merberlin
July 4, 2007, 5:04am (report abuse)I'm out hereafter
Phillip Long
July 5, 2007, 1:31am (report abuse)To Eric and Nestor, please explain to me how this bill will fix the economic issues of the CNMI.
Please don't be self serving and tell me how it will improve YOUR personal economic situation, but explain to me how this bill will improve the economic well being of everyone here?
This is the very basic root of the problem, posters on this site.
Not one person has shown me how this will help the CNMI as a whole (residents AND non-residents)
My challenge is still on the table.
Nestor
July 5, 2007, 3:14am (report abuse)Phillip, as what i've said, Let us just wait and see. How about you? What help can you offer to CNMI without this bill.
Nada
July 5, 2007, 9:42am (report abuse)Mr. Long,
How I wish I was in your position right now.. Returning back your question, how do you think you can help to improve the lives of the people in the CNMI... Are you a business man? I guess so.. What do you think guys?
James Mendiola Jr.
July 6, 2007, 12:03am (report abuse)I really don't understand this forum. A few comments back, Mr. Dimaguiba, asked what problems I had with the bill. I noted one of the easiest problems to explain, the simple fact that Congress wants to retroactively negate CNMI Immigration law. There's much more...but no one who supports this bill wants to discuss these small and insignificant little problems because of the carrot of non-immigrant visas hanging in front of their faces.
Then we have my favorite super sleuth Nestor. Who has just asked, Phillip, what he can do to help the CNMI without this bill. Well, Nestor, is that a fair question? I mean here we have a bill introduced by the Congress of the most powerful nation in the world. Of course, Phillip can't make a positive impact as great as the negative impact the bill will cause, Nestor, why would you expect an individual to wield as much power as Congress?
James Mendiola Jr.
July 6, 2007, 12:26am (report abuse)Now, we have Nada. What does it matter if Phillip is a businessman? What? Are we suppose to discount the opinion of businessmen, now? I don't know about Phil, but I have a few things I can do to help improve the lives of the people in the CNMI. It all starts with what I can do, personally, because as this forum proves I can't lead worth crap nor do I have the eloquence to change the opinions of others.
I will drive as carefully as I can, always. I promise not to litter. I will donate money and goods to people in need. I will tip hardworking waitresses and waiters. I will offer people rides more often, even if it is out of my way. I will smile more, because you never know when someone needs a friendly smile. Although most people end up not paying me back, I will try to lend a few bucks when I can spare it. There's a lot we all can do, right?
Phillip Long
July 6, 2007, 12:40am (report abuse)To Nestor and Nada, your argument as I understand it is the following:
What can an individual do (me) in the absence of this bill.
Well, I am already doing my part. I am trying to educate people on the negative impact this bill will have and what needs to be changed.
In none of my postings do I propose to leave things as status quo. I am trying to educate people on how we need to fight for more and not accept what the Federal Government attempts to ram down our collective throats.
Based on your comments and others on this site, we are all supposed to just sit and accept what is being handed down to us.
My question to you is why? Why do you not fight for your basic rights? Why do you try to encourage me not to fight for you or fight for the economic welfare of my home?
James M. Mendiola Jr.
July 6, 2007, 12:51am (report abuse)Come on guys, if you really want to help the CNMI, it's easy. I don't disagree with Federalized Immigration. Taga's Way had the right idea that the bill is not all bad...a smart guy. Residents and Non-residents have to agree on the way the immigration bill is implemented. A bill which does not take into consideration the special circumstance that surrounds the CNMI's relationship with Washington is not conducive to this region. I like what Justice Dela Cruz said in his Letter to the Editor. A Federal Immigration bill will most likely be a reality, but we have to do make sure that the bill gives consideration to the CNMI's culture, economy, and people.
Baby
July 10, 2007, 6:22am (report abuse)If you don't like the federal bill, the only way to avoid this: be an independent nation. By doing this, Uncle Sam CANNOT DICTATE YOU!
Baby
July 10, 2007, 6:32am (report abuse)But for me, I am praying that this bill will be a law.
Once this become a law, a wider door will be open to us contract workers. Aren't you happy that our lives will be better?
james
July 11, 2007, 10:59pm (report abuse)I voted for the bill, but made a mistake. Make that 80% +, 20%-.
Fred
July 13, 2007, 7:55am (report abuse)Everyone who opposes this bill seems to think that the economy in the CNMI will collapse if it is passed. But the economy is already in shambles under local control. all the money that is going to Guam for the military buildup is bypassing the CNMI because CNMI is perceived as a security issue without federal border control.
Fred
July 13, 2007, 8:00am (report abuse)I can't understand the Saipan Chamber of Commerce's position of distinguishing between border protection and immigration. Border protection inherently requires controls the entry of people. What will happen to the economy to the CNMI under federal immigration control? Who really knows, but I certainly can't see it getting any worse than it is right now. The CNMI economy is dying, slowly and painfully. Unfortunately, its the people who are taking the brunt of the bleeding and not the politicians in the CNMI government.
Fred
July 13, 2007, 8:18am (report abuse)I just find it interesting that alot of people seem to think that the CNMI economy will be affected by this immigration bill. The final nail in the economy has already been hammered in with the minimum wage law. What most people are not aware of is that the wages will actually increase under federal immigration because of the requirement that alien workers under the federal scheme have to be paid at a prevailing wage. The effect of this policy on CNMI businesses is that it would be cheaper to hire locally than to import alien workers. One of the biggest problems with the local labor and immigration control is that is that it cheaper to hire alien workers than it is to hire a local.
Fred
July 13, 2007, 8:29am (report abuse)Too many friends and family are not being hired because of the preference of CNMI businesses to use alien workers. They also will not take jobs that most alien workers will take because of the low wages. I don't believe that we make a change to get more locals jobs until we break the current system in effect. Perhaps CNMI businesses will realize the worth of local workers and start offering better wages when it becomes apparent that it is just too expensive to hire an alien worker. It won't happen while immigration remains under local control. Why? The local politicians don't have the political will to what is necessary to wean ourselves from our dependence on alien labor.
Fred
July 13, 2007, 8:50am (report abuse)After reading all these various comments, I think its wrong to assume that most of the eligible contract workers will simply leave the CNMI if they get their "special" visas. I have friends who are contract workers and most of them have said they don't plan on leaving the CNMI even if they can go anywhere else in the mainland. All of them have lived in the CNMI long enough to really call the CNMI their home. Most contract workers who have been here more than 5 years have made a life in the CNMI and leaving is simply not an option for them. Most of us who have ventured to the U.S. mainland always seem to want to come back to the islands. My perception is that most contract workers want this bill passed to ensure that they won't have to worry about the threat of leaving their "home" every single time their contracts up for renewal. At the end of the day, those who end up leaving for the mainland are those who have not made the CNMI their home.
Julia
July 13, 2007, 9:39am (report abuse)I agree with Fred, I still want to stay in Saipan, its paradise for me. All my siblings are there, for my 15 years in Saipan I can call it my second home. I wish everybody think the way you think.
Silvia
July 13, 2007, 7:59pm (report abuse)I agree with Fred, I still hope to stay in. My daughter also was born in Saipan. for My 11years stay in saipan. I can call it my second home and all my live.
how can cnmi gov improve the worse situation , without any better condition to alien worker. only depending the visa renewal fee? or force alien worker exit from CNMI?
Ruben
July 14, 2007, 7:31pm (report abuse)I agree with Fred I believed that most of the longtime alien workers who worked in CNMI already considered this Island as there home, some may leave but mostly will stay. For me as long as I have a job to support my family I will stay.
Phillip Long
July 15, 2007, 2:00am (report abuse)Mixing the minimum wage's affect on the economy with the impact of this bill on the economy is wrong.
One has nothing to do with the other. Statements made by Fred are correct, however the relationship of the two federal issues have dynamically different affects on the CNMI Economy.
The minimum wage was necessary in order to accurately reflect a US market driven economy. As long as businesses in the CNMI are allowed to keep wages artifically low by importing labor from other contries our economy would be pegged to those countries we import labor from.
A big caveat to this is "how" the US Federalized the minimum wage without an economic study on the effect of the arbritrary .50 per year increase. An % increase over time that no other US state or territory has ever had to absorb.
But that is another issue.
Phillip Long
July 15, 2007, 2:06am (report abuse)Now to the issue at hand, this bill will dramatically curtail our ability to augment the detrimental impact of the minimum wage implementation.
We need something to jumpstart the economy.
That "something" is the CNMI's unique and sole distinction of being the only US territory to allow Visa Free entry to citizens of China and Russia.
This means that out of all the US states and territories and most importantly our regional competitors (hawaii and Guam) the CNMI is the only US insular area that can receive visitors and INVESTORS.
This bill grants 5 cabinet members of the US President the right to take that unique distinction away for any reason at any time without the consent of the CNMI.
That is an economical deathblow that can be avoided. That one of the reasons why I am against this bill.
Phillip Long
July 15, 2007, 2:12am (report abuse)In regards to border security and or "national security" issues for the reasoning behind this bill, that is a red herring.
There are US military bases in foreign countries all over the world, some in hostile countries toward the US and yet the US does not impose federalization of immigration in those countries.
The "talking point" that it is a National Security Interest of the United States is a joke.
What threat are we to the US Mainland that Indonesia, the Philippines or Mexico are not?
Don't get caught up in the "hype" of this bill. Read it thoroughly and demand more from the United States...US congress owes us all at least that much.
Phillip Long
July 15, 2007, 2:27am (report abuse)Here are talking points against this bill:
For the non-resident worker:
No citizenship
No Green Card
No Permanent Residency Card
No right to vote (Federal, State and local)
No right to government social services
Creates two classes (pre 5 year and post 5 year)
For the CNMI economy:
No local control over who invests No Local control over who comes into the CNMI (tourists)
No Federal Impact Aid guarantees
No guaranteed Federal Budget to implement the program...(this means we get crumbs from an already depleted Immigration Budget)
No gurantee of Visa exempted countries (bill does not name countries but instead leaves it up to cabinet members to decide)
No funding for economic impact studies
No guranteed rights to the CNMI..all decisions are unilateral.
Fred
July 15, 2007, 4:02am (report abuse)Phillip, your points are well taken. But I can't understand the logic in mixing the CNMI with other sovereign countries and the imposition of federal immigration. Are we forgetting that we are "U.S." commonwealth.
As for the so called economic advantage of being able to bring in tourists from other countries without visas, let's look at that situation right now. We can allow tourists from other countries who normally require visas to the U.S. But look around. I don't see the plane loads of these tourists coming to our islands. We offer that now and no one is biting.
Fred
July 15, 2007, 4:03am (report abuse)I appreciate your concerns about this bill and I agree that it is deficient in many respects. But I think you should direct these concerns to the people who are going to Washington and ask them to present your points to the Energy committee.
As for voting rights and access to federal programs, screw that. I like the semi-autonomy we now have and I don't want to give the feds any reasons to assert any other controls over here in exchange for additional benefits.
ROSE
July 15, 2007, 9:03pm (report abuse)100%YES TO FEDERAL TAKE OVER. THIS WILL MAKE CNMI AN IMPROVED PLACE TO STAY BY LETTING EXPERIENCED, HIGHLY EDUCATED, AND NON-CORRUPT US OFFICIALS RULE THE GOVERNMENT. IF LOCAL PEOPLE ARE AGAINST, THEN MAKE ANOTHER REPUBLIC OF SAIPAN SO THAT UNCLE SAM WILL LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR TERRITORY.
Phillip Long
July 16, 2007, 12:03am (report abuse)Fred, the logic implied with comparing the CNMI's immigration control with that of other soverign countries was meant to rebut the "red herring" that proponents of this bill make, in that Federalization is necessary for National Security Interests of the USA.
This is simply not the case in that we have military bases all over the world in countries which control their own immigration and therefore "risk" the security of the USA via access to the base and or the same method in traveling from that part of the world to the USA.
The CNMI is no different from any other soverign country that controls its own immigration.
In fact, the US granted us local control over immigration in the covenant agreement.
My point is that the excuse to take that right away is weak and not valid....hence the "red herring".
Phillip Long
July 16, 2007, 12:11am (report abuse)Fred, I think you are misinformed about the "economic advantage" you seem to think are non-existant.
There are currently 7 flights a week from cities in China called Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou. All with seat capacities of 195-230. At an average load factor of 70% at the lowest seat arrangement that would give us almost 1,000 tourists per week. That is over 50,000 tourists per year.
MVA projects this market to be over 150,000 in the next 3 years.
Russia is also growing with one charter flight a month and most flying into the CNMI via South Korea. This amounts to almost 10,000 tourists per year. With the average Russian staying in the CNMI for over 15 days.
The offer is out there and there are a lot of people biting. Just ask PIC, World Resort, Dynasty and Fiesta Resort how these flights impact their hotel revenue...
Phillip Long
July 16, 2007, 12:18am (report abuse)Fred, Voting rights and citizenship for non-resident aliens is important in that it also addresses the excuses that the USA implies by invoking Federal Control of the CNMI's immigration.
How are they protecting the human rights of the non-resident working in this bill?
How can you call a place your home if you do not have a voice or seat at the table?
How does this bill change that?
I am one of the few locals who believe that many non-residents deserve a path to citizenship. I call many non-residents my friends and some are family. I believe they have every right to decide on our society's leaders as I do as a local.
However this bill is lipstick on a pig. It does not give the non-residents what they deserve and does not treat the CNMI fairly.
Fred
July 16, 2007, 12:52am (report abuse)Rose, what makes you think that there is no corruption in the federal government? Corruption is rampant everywhere. The difference is that some places just do it more discreetly.
Phillip I certainly agree that the contract workers should have more than what this bill provides, but the guys going to Washington don't seem to have a grasp of the current discussion we are having. Sorry to say this, I don't expect a stellar performance from our representatives who are going to testify on Thursday.
I am really disturbed these days that this bill is causing alot of anger and division in our community. The longer that this bill lingers, the more tense I think it will get. Regardless of the outcome, I want this issue resolved. I just think at this point, the bill will be passed.
HARERAM
July 16, 2007, 1:24am (report abuse)I WANT THIS BILL TO BE SIGN BY PRESIDENT BUSH BECAUSE ALOTS OF LOCALS(EXCEPT POLITICIANS AND GOV.EMPLOYEES) AND ALLIENS ARE SUFFERINGS FINANCIALY AND SOCIALY.I HAVE BEEN 10 YEARS WATCHING CNMI'S ECONOMY.TO IMPROVE IT AND BRING NEW INVESTORS THE BILL WILL HELP. WILL LOW CURRUPTION,LESS ABUSE TO ALLIENS,GIVE LITTLE RIGHTS TO ALLIENS AND MORE LABOR CASES.
RONNIE
July 16, 2007, 8:11pm (report abuse)I think whatever the outcome this bill will be pass. Sorry, CNMI Jack Abramoff is in jail.
Taga's Way
July 16, 2007, 8:40pm (report abuse)To Fred and Philip, I on the other hand dis-agrees on the pre-sumption that contract workers should have more than what this bill implies. The "contract workers" are contracted individuals that intelligently agreed to the terms and limitations of their contracts. No more than that.
Now, as I have posted earlier change of immigration status could be attained through USCIS; apply!
Anyway, if this bill is signed into law it will mandate concerned individuals to apply for immigration benefits that they desire, and then maybe citizenship. Of course they have to re-nounce their point of origin in the process.
Phillip Long
July 16, 2007, 9:12pm (report abuse)Taga's Way, I agree with you that all contract workers (non-residents) knew what they were getting into when they signed their labor contract. I agree that "they" have no right to demand citizenship based on the fact that it was never promised to them in the first place.
However, as a people we have allowed non-residents to become residents in our community by continuously renewing their contracts year by year.
Some have created families, intermarried with our locals, built homes and invested in a place they now call their home.
It is time that we recognize this and welcome them into our community as official residents and not 2nd class citizens. Unfortunately, this bill does not do that.
Taga's Way
July 16, 2007, 9:14pm (report abuse)Although, what I have posted might have a negative undertone to the non-residents, the bill in actuallity might pass.
To Philip and James, its a cultivating experience reading your posts; your patriotism and love for our islands are exemplary.
And to Fred too; excellent observations on the issue at hand.
To the individuals who aspires for improved immigration status, a fundamental grasp of the history of the CNMI and the history of the United States of America would certainly increase your chances of attaining your improved immigration status desires.
Juan Dela Cruz
July 18, 2007, 12:33am (report abuse)Attention to those who have an open mind and to those who have taken the time to read U.S. Senate Bill S.1634. Let me teach you some basic Politics 101. If you read the Bill it was introduced by US Senator Akaka and co-sponsored by only 3 other U.S. Senators. Here is the math, there are 100 U.S. Senators, if the Bill was sponsored by at least 51 U.S. Senators including the next President, which is U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton and the next Vice President, which is U.S. Senator Obama, then I believe the passage of S.1634 is in the horizon. Remember it needs to be address in the U.S. House of Representatives, referred to a committee again for discussion, then mark-up if its approved in both the Senate and House.
Juan Dela Cruz
July 18, 2007, 12:33am (report abuse)So people don't get too much high blood on the debate. What you should be more worry about is the local CNMI legislation that was improperly and uneducated and unprofessional passage of CNMI Local Bill H.B. No. 15-38, CS 1. Between the two legislation the lesser evil is the S.1634 compare to the H.B. No. 15-38 in which I commend the following local Congressman such as Rep. Joseph P. Deleon Guerrero, Rep. Edwin P. Aldan, and Rep. Arnold I. Palacios who did not signed the committee report. Yet this local Bill is really an unprofessional Bill and if it becomes into a law, then it will show that the CNMI Legislature are a Kangaroo and Banana Republic
Juan Dela Cruz
July 18, 2007, 12:34am (report abuse)So people don't get too much high blood on the debate. What you should be more worry about is the local CNMI legislation that was improperly and uneducated and unprofessional passage of CNMI Local Bill H.B. No. 15-38, CS 1. Between the two legislation the lesser evil is the S.1634 compare to the H.B. No. 15-38 in which I commend the following local Congressman such as Rep. Joseph P. Deleon Guerrero, Rep. Edwin P. Aldan, and Rep. Arnold I. Palacios who did not signed the committee report. Yet this local Bill is really an unprofessional Bill and if it becomes into a law, then it will show that the CNMI Legislature are a Kangaroo and Banana Republic
Maria Dela Cruz
July 18, 2007, 12:37am (report abuse)Ay, Juan Un Dankulo Na Si Yu'us Ma'ase for teaching them Politics 101.
Junior Dela Cruz
July 18, 2007, 12:38am (report abuse)Hey Pop, Viva CNMI and Mabuhay ang CNMI
Baby Doll Dela Cruz
July 18, 2007, 12:45am (report abuse)My Pop is right, it takes time for the passage and if people who are against it or for it should take time to write testimony and submit to the U.S. Senate Committee. Uncle Sam give CNMI more assistance for economic development. Give us assistance such as more grants to train the residence of CNMI, more US Department of Labor and US Dept of Education money to train our citizens.
Tan Maria Dela Cruz
July 18, 2007, 12:56am (report abuse)Ay, taotao tano, este this S.1634 is like cooking Ayuyu. The Ayuyu is the main dish and only the CNMI can provide the Ayuyu, the coconut milk is the CNMI Govt the onions and garlic is the foreign workers, now you need the gas to start the fire which is the US Govt, without all of all the S.1634 Ayuyu Dish will be uncooked and so no one will eat it. Do you get the point.
Kaya
July 18, 2007, 1:20am (report abuse)Dela Cruzes you are all right. It does not mean that with its passage in the senate then it becomes a law right away. It has to through the house for review, reading,hearing and may be conference meeting for both houses to iron out their differences. S1634 is just the start. Still long way to go.
Gloria (GVC)
July 18, 2007, 8:23am (report abuse)to all who are against this blll pls dont be selfish,greedy and self centered..every human being has chance for stability and looking forward for the better future in life..kindly give chance for those long time non-resident workers in your island..althought they were not be given the right to vote and to become a U.S. Citezen but having the privelege to work in the mainland is a better apportunity for them to improve their lives..God bless you all
Zeny
July 18, 2007, 8:39am (report abuse)Let us all pray for what is going to be good for the many..not only for the selected few...
Zeny
July 18, 2007, 8:47am (report abuse)Good leaders hears the voices of the lowly...Come on Saipan be the Leader..Strive for more developments for a long term range...Think about the future of the kids...
Juan Dela Cruz
July 19, 2007, 12:25am (report abuse)S.1634 needs a miracle to pass yet alone the US Senate Committee hearing the legislation. If it passes the US Senate Committee then look at the cosponsors if it gets at least 51 US Senators or more then good. Those of you should bark more on Rep Kaipat of the CNMI for passage of a H.B.15-63 which makes the CNMI a Banana Republic of Kangaroo Court.
Tan Maria Dela Cruz
July 19, 2007, 12:29am (report abuse)I read all the prayer vigil, why don't you do the same thing in front of Rep Jacinta Kaipat's house in Saipan so that she can look in the mirror that her family was also once a migrat family to the CNMI. S.1634 will take a while to pass. The H.B. 15-63 should be the one you should look at closely. Becuase if it passes then no will be kick out of CNMI for you to benefit from S.1634.
Tea Boy
July 19, 2007, 3:26am (report abuse)On a slightly different perspective: If one enters a legally binding contract to work from January to November and at the expiration of the contract, say December and you wanted to stay beyond ....who do you expect to provide for your necessities and why.
Mimi
July 19, 2007, 2:44pm (report abuse)Have any of you ever read Saipan sucks, the only thing it misses on is that it’s worse. I love my rolling black outs and have always like showering in salt water. Me Long has just kicked the hell out of what you won’t get, ya no famous green card just a travel and work visa with some limits that wouldn’t give me a heart ach. Contract worker, chance to go to the United States! See you later Mr. Long, lots of luck finding some of you buddies to mow your grass.
Jean
July 19, 2007, 3:11pm (report abuse)any one think Mr.Long is a sex tour operator?
Onemig
July 19, 2007, 6:17pm (report abuse)In my personal opinion, I think it is about time that the CNMI immigration be federalized. I have friends hired as dancers in the CNMI. They were offered "by a local employer" a forty hour a week work @ $3.05 per hour, housing, commission, transportation, day-off's free plane tickets and documents processing at no-cost to them. Yet, when they got here they were put in a house were the gates and doors were chained. Dogs tied to every window to prevent escape. Guards hired to prevent them from going out. No commissions, processing fees and plane tickets deducted from their paychecks. Having them do acts for special clients that's against their will...
Onemig
July 19, 2007, 6:28pm (report abuse)Mr. Long and Mr. Mendiola, please tell those ladies why you are against the federalization of CNMI immigration after all that has happened to them. Victims of sex trades that is rampant on this island. There are more reported cases of such than any other U.S. State or territories. Thanks for your opinions against federalization. Such a shame...
Kaya
July 19, 2007, 6:30pm (report abuse)Now that the senate hearing has been done, let us just wait now for their recommendation to the full Senate for deliberation and passage. It is good too that Congress has the same bill introduced for review, debate, public hearing and recommendation.
I think there is no more stopping now. It will happen, therefore, locals and non-residents alike should come to term and understanding.
Phillip Long
July 19, 2007, 9:15pm (report abuse)Slanderous attacks on this site are a waste of time. People need to focus on factual debates.
If some of the posters such as Onemig, Jean and Mimi actually took time to read, they would see that I never said that I was against immigration or federalization.
I am just against the way this bill intends to implement it.
Read my posts and you will be enlightened to know that I support a pathway to citizenship for non-resident workers. I am actually trying to point out that this bill does not give you that.
WAKE UP...and READ THE POSTS..
Kaya
July 19, 2007, 9:28pm (report abuse)Phil Long never was against federalization of CNMI immigration. He was just trying to discourage non-resident workers to support the bill because he wants the non-residents to fight for US citizenship, green cards, ability to vote, etc. which will not happen. But in reality, he wants you, the non-residents to think that S1634 is not enough that the bill is giving you non-immigrant status like FAS people. Economic consideration is the real concern of the non-residents to have equal opportunity to progress. He is also worried that their proposed Chinese and Russian casino customers may not be able to travel to Tinian to play in their proposed casino if S1634 becomes law.
Jean
July 19, 2007, 9:31pm (report abuse)Onemig, I know that place that your talking about, its Mr. Long’s place.
Wonder why we haven’t heard from James as of yet, oh yea he’s still coming around this time of day. Wait till he starts smoking his stuff then he’ll be giving us all his sludge.
No more free rides you two, it’s going to be a little harder to rip off Uncle Sam and your fellow Chamorro’s James. And last you won’t be able to suck the marrow of Asian people so you can sit on your butt.
Phillip Long
July 19, 2007, 9:44pm (report abuse)Kaya is right with the exception that I DISAGREE with her stance that citizenship is not attainable. And although economic opportunity considerations are invaluable to non-residents, how will you be treated fairly if the Government does not recognize you as a citizen of the country?
As stated in previous posts, I am one of the few locals who strongly believe that non-resident workers rightfully deserve a path to citizenship. You are a part of our community, you are a part of our families and I call many of you my friends, whom I have grown up to know personally.
It is very obvious that some of the posters don't know me and that is why they are so hostile toward someone who advocates their rights in a society we BOTH live in.
Phillip Long
July 19, 2007, 9:50pm (report abuse)This bill and now the House version (HB3079) is being "fed" to all of us like a plain white cracker being "fed" to a starving person.
The cracker tastes like a juicy steak because we are starving for food (a change).
That is what the leaders want us to think both in the US and the CNMI. This bill (plain white cracker) is being pawned off as a juicy steak to a starving person.
However when we finally get a real taste of the plain white cracker we will all immediately recognize it isn't the juicy steak that they told us it was.
We are all being told to eat crackers ladies and gentleman.
Time is now to demand the juicy steak we deserve.
US Congress needs to wake up and do what is right for all of us...Non-residents and locals alike. Please join me in the fight to get what is rightfully deserved of all of us.
Phillip Long
July 19, 2007, 9:57pm (report abuse)Jean and Onemig please stop spewing hate and retoric. Now is not the time for that.
If your true concern is for the prosecution of sex crimes in the CNMI, please point out to me where in the US bills (SB 1634 & HB 3079) does the US Federal government offer personnel, funding and or gurantees to rid the CNMI of these issues?
This is exactly why this bill falls short. You and the proponents of the bill regurgitate talking points without checking facts.
How will this bill fix current labor problems or sex trade? Will immigration stomp and break down doors? Are they mandated to investigate sex crimes?
Please read and join me in the crusade to address matters that are abscent in these bills.
Jean
July 19, 2007, 10:11pm (report abuse)Yea Mr Long that why you want me to make $3.05 an hour. We do know you.
Citizenship ?? like the CNMI Government recognizes me as a citizen of this country? Your a jerk. And tonight I will be eating crakers it's about all I can get with the wage I make.
Phillip Long
July 19, 2007, 10:27pm (report abuse)Jean, people like you make living in a society together difficult. Your hate and anger are obviously affecting your judgement.
First, you don't know me. Second, I don't want you to make $3.05 an hour. In fact, the company I work for will be offering all workers entry level positions at $7.55 an hour, regardless of residency.
Citizenship and all that comes with it should be considered at the Federal Level because I admit that there are still plenty of locals who fear losing control of their society.
I disagree. I believe you are already a part of our society and should be given the dignity and respect you deserve.
Unfortunately, you fail to give me the same respect and dignity in return.
JUANA DE LA CRUZ
July 20, 2007, 12:55am (report abuse)TO ALL THOSE ARE OPPOSING OR IN FAVOR OF FEDERALIZATION...PLEASE RESPECT EACH OTHERS OPINION...DON'T HURT EACH OTHERS FEELINGS...FOR MR. LONG I KNOW YOU ARE CHAMORRO BY BLOOD. YOUR ARE JUST PROTECTING YOUR ISLAND. I ADMIRE YOUR PROFESSIONALISM IN DEALING WITH THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSING YOU......FOR MS. JEAN , MR. LONG IS NOT A SEX TOUR OPERATOR....HIS EDUCATION AND BREEDING WILL NOT LET HIM DO THAT. "WHATEVER WILL BE THE OUTCOME OF S 1634...GOD WILL ALWAYS BE THERE TO GUIDE EACH AND EVERYONE OF US REGARLESS OF RACE"
scorpio
July 20, 2007, 1:13am (report abuse)Guys,
Why don't you returm to your homeland, go back to the place were you belong, go back to your place of birth, participate and mingled with your country's affairs..you must do your share in your own countrY, Where is your patriotism-your love of country.
scorpio 2
July 20, 2007, 1:33am (report abuse)hey scorpio the carolinians in saipan tell them to go home too and you too
SCORPIO 3
July 20, 2007, 1:53am (report abuse)What will you gonna be if every on-indigenous body will go home? Makes me laugh if I imagine!
Jean2
July 20, 2007, 3:01am (report abuse)Phillip, don't make my head round. That's a federal you have to abide the min. wage weather you like it or not. If the local govt. didn't neglect us, it won't result into this. I am not aspiring to be a first class citizen all we want is security of tenure.
envelop ideas
July 20, 2007, 7:57am (report abuse)Scorpio, Just to tell you I'm home!
envelop ideas
July 20, 2007, 8:30am (report abuse)the BOYCOTT campaign in CNMI is gaining ground...
"A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history."
Mohandas Gandhi
JFK
July 20, 2007, 11:11am (report abuse)To everyone here:
James, you hurt a lot of people when you present your argument. It maybe too late James. You love your island but some didn't do their job well. You, like most here became victims of reality. It's like an inconvenient truth.
Below are some of the links to ponder. The link first link got more links within.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/17/21520/5511
"Everywhere immigrants have enriched and strengthened the fabric of American life." - John F. Kennedy
"Many fears are born of stupidity and ignorance
Which you should be feeding with rumour and generalisation."
-- BOFH 2002, Episode 10.
"If a man harbors any sort of fear, it percolates through all his thinking, damages his personality, makes him landlord to a ghost."
-- Lloyd Cassel Douglas.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
-- Abraham Lincoln.
JFK
July 20, 2007, 11:13am (report abuse)Most businesses do not want federalization. Some in the CNMI government do not want it too. Some just do not know what they're talking about. Generally the people of CNMI are good, peaceful, and loving individuals. It's just being tarnished by interests from different ends. Everybody claims CNMI. Some jobless got nobody to blame but others. Some are just victims of all of these interests.
Is the current governor really for the interests of the people of CNMI?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/02/01/indicted-lobbyist-jack-ab_n_14... />
or the former?
http://20trueblue.blogspot.com/2006/07/sweeney-defended-sweatshops-and.... />
Are the newspapers fair?
http://20trueblue.blogspot.com/2006/07/sweeney-defended-sweatshops-and.... />
Now which?
Where there slavery, sweatshops, prostitutions, etc...?
What's the bigger picture? Do all need fight?
JFK
July 20, 2007, 11:16am (report abuse)*Do all need to fight?
Redz
July 20, 2007, 10:12pm (report abuse)Philip Long,
Are you really serious in giving the non resident workers the right to vote, citizenship and the right to own a land??? C'mon!!! Or this is just another dilatory tactic. Do you really mean non resident workers deserves more??? More of what? If they do, then when do you think you're ready for this? And how many of you in the Marianas willing to do so? If non residents workers deserves a whole piece of cake then how come you cann't even give them a small part of it? Or it's just a ploy to calm down these people and make them wait for miracle for these to happen...