H.R. 82 would amend title II of the Social Security Act to repeal the Government pension offset and windfall elimination provisions. Related to S. 206.
Detailed Summary
Social Security Fairness Act of 2007 - Amends title II (Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance) (OASDI) of the Social Security Act to repeal: (1) government pension offset requirements applicable to husband's and wife's insurance benefits, widow's and widower's insurance benefits, and mother's and father's insurance benefits with respect to OASDI payments; and (2) windfall elimination requirements with respect to computation of an individual's primary insurance amount.
Status of the Legislation
Introduced by Rep. Howard L. Berman (CA) and referred to the Subcommittee on Social Security. Has 325 sponsors and co-sponsors as of 9/06/07, nearly 3/4 of the House of Representatives.
A Senate subcommittee hearing on S. 206 was scheduled for 11/06/07. (Look up S. 206 on washingtonwatch.com for more information.)
Points in Favor
Current GPO and WEP rules take away Social Security rights that people earned because someone in their family served in public service jobs outside of the system. For example, a wife who never worked would get 50% of her husband's retirement benefits. However, if she worked as a librarian in many states, she would get none of these benefits. In another case, a coal miner turned fire fighter might be denied most of his own Social Security retirement benefits earned in the mines, because his later employer chose not to participate in Social Security.
Overall, it discourages people from taking a career in public service, or tracks them between covered and non-covered employers. Former teachers in one school district cannot afford to serve in another district, making it harder to fill needed positions everywhere.
Points Against
Social Security benefits are intended to replace only a percentage of a worker's pre-retirement earnings. The way Social Security benefit amounts are figured, lower-paid workers get a higher return than highly paid workers. For example, lower-paid workers could get a Social Security benefit that equals about 55 percent of their pre-retirement earnings. The average replacement rate for highly paid workers is about 25 percent.
Before 1983, people who worked mainly in a job not covered by Social Security had their Social Security benefits calculated as if they were long-term, low-wage workers. The effect of this was that their record looked like that of a person who had worked most of their life at lower paying jobs. This gave them an advantage because they received a Social Security benefit representing a higher percentage of their earnings than was intended, plus a pension from a job where they did not pay Social Security taxes. For that reason Congress passed the Windfall Elimination Provision to remove that advantage.
For those who have worked at both Social Security covered jobs and non-covered jobs there is a provision to reduce the offset. For every year of substantial Social Security covered earnings in excess of twenty years the offset is reduced. It is entirely possible for an individual to have enough Social Security earnings to completely eliminate the offset. The table for substantial earnings can be found at:
www.ssa.gov/pubs/10045.html#exceptions
A detailed explanation and chart showing the maximum amount of the offset is at:
www.ssa.gov/retire2/wep-chart.htm
This is a fair and equitable way to reduce the unfair advantage that some individuals gained prior to the enactment of the Windfall Elimination Provision, while still providing some measure of coverage under Social Security.
Visitor Comments
Richard to Donna 11/22/08
November 22, 2008, 9:01am (report abuse)Why not call the Congressional Switchboard at 202/224-3121 and ask for the office of Congressman McNulty. Ask what's happening w/H.R.82. Then say you support the Social Security Fairness Act of 2007 and request that Rep. McNulty move the bill out of committee and on to the House floor for debate. You'll be asked your name and where your from. Then, call the number again and ask for the office of Sen. Kerry. Ask what's happening w/S.206. Then say you support the Social Security Fairness Act of 2007 and request that Sen. Kerry move the bill out of committee and on to the Senate floor for debate. You'll be feeling pretty good by now so call the number again and again asking to be connected to each member of congress for YOUR state and tell them that you support the Social Security Fairness Act of 2007 and you want to know what their position is on H.R 82 or S.206. After a rest, why not report your experience on this forum.
Missouri
November 22, 2008, 10:06am (report abuse)What??? What is currently happening in Missouri now is The SS is going back and saying that some law written way back, states that some teachers should pay ss and some teachers don't have to pay it and it depends on the teaching postion. Coaches, administrators, and vo-tech teachers may now have to start paying according to the old law. But the Windfall/GPO may still apply to them as well, even with them currently returning to paying in ss??? No one seems to know the answer to that one.
ChuckL
November 24, 2008, 2:39pm (report abuse)This is the problem with all Welfare Programs. They are "tweaked" by government "workers" rather than just simplified.
SS retirement pay is WELFARE.
Therefore make all payments equal to the annualized minimum wage.
Means test and reduce payments by $1.00 for every $2.00 of other income from any source whatsoever.
Mary Kelly
November 29, 2008, 9:44pm (report abuse)I question? Why pay into a system where there is no return. This system is the kind I liked to have. Instead of giving the money to them pay it to me and I'll give you nothing in return.
pete
December 2, 2008, 1:32pm (report abuse)i don't understand why i had 60% of my ss taken away from me when i paid into it before i became a police officer.then i heard sen mccain who i a millionair and also a goernment employee is getting full ss payments(2300.00 a month.
Bob
December 4, 2008, 7:27am (report abuse)Pete, same here. Worked 30 yrs as a cop. Paid into SS before and after I retired and now they penalize me. The national FOP is taking a vigorous stand on this and lobbying Congress. Write and call your Senator and Congressmen to complain. Baby boomers are only now finding out about this when it's time to collect.
Richard 12/04/08
December 4, 2008, 2:51pm (report abuse). . .and, one of the easist ways to CALL your Members of Congress is to refer to the numbers six posting prior to this one. But for heavans sake, GET INVOLVED!
ART HENDRICKSON, Jr.
December 5, 2008, 2:38pm (report abuse)I WORKED AND CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIAL SECURITY AND SINCE I WAS SMART ENOUGH TO GET A GOVERNMENT JOB(TEACHING) FOR WHICH I ALSO GET A PENSION, I AM BEING PENALIZED BY HAVING MY SS LESSENED. I AT LEAST AM A CITIZEN AND I PAID MY FULL 40 QUARTERS. I WANT WHAT I AM DO...NO WINFALL TAX DEDUCTIONS.
Richard to: ART HENDRICKSON, Jr.
December 6, 2008, 11:56pm (report abuse)Then, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, Art. Scroll 8 postings prior and GET INVOLVED. Does absolutely no good at all to post complaints on this site.
Mark
December 12, 2008, 5:07pm (report abuse)Here is an address for President-elect Obama: http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact,...copy/paste into your browser and when the page opens send him a message and URGE him to follow through on his commitment of support for the repeal of WEP / GPO in 2009. Share the address with those you know affected by this unfair legislation and get them involved... BEFORE the Inauguration.
Richard
December 14, 2008, 10:42am (report abuse)Excellent, Mark! You should also post this on:
http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_SN_206.html#usercomments
For ART HENDRICKSON, Jr
December 14, 2008, 1:58pm (report abuse)For someone who claims to be smart you certainly don't understand grammar. The word is "due" ot "do" in your whine above.
For Charlie
December 18, 2008, 9:28pm (report abuse)Bet Art knows how to spell "not". You use to be annoying - now you are a source of cheap entertainment. You have obviously lost sight of what this "site" is about. It is about the GPO/WEP incase you have forgot that.
For Whoever
December 19, 2008, 3:42pm (report abuse)Don't know about Charlie but I think the whole thing is just a big boo-hoo about how you are not allowed to rip off the social ecurity system.