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H.R. 6798, To amend title 38, United States Code, to establish a presumption of service connection for certain cancers occurring in veterans who served in the Republic of Vietnam and were exposed to certain herbicide agents, and for other purposes (145 comments ↓)
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H.R. 6798 would amend title 38, United States Code, to establish a presumption of service connection for certain cancers occurring in veterans who served in the Republic of Vietnam and were exposed to certain herbicide agents.
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N. Denise Nash
August 7, 2008, 6:47pm (report abuse)Please pass this bill and add additional funding to the research of gastrointestinal and pancreatic cancers. We need help and you are the ones to do it.
S. Castile
August 8, 2008, 12:15am (report abuse)This is a most important bill to repay the suffering of the many, many, many, servicemen and service women. Please pass this bill.
It is just logical to understand that gastrointestinal cancers would be a direct result of the dioxins being sprayed, ingested, breathed, in the Vietnam era. At times, clothing would be soaked with the spraying. It was absorbed though the entire body! Please ask your legislators to support this bill.
Judith Frampton-Binz
August 8, 2008, 12:31pm (report abuse)I was a widow of a Vietnam Vet who died of colon Ca. two years after he was discharged from the US Air Force. We were told that his death could not be service connected because the diagnoses was made a little over a year from discharge.
Raquel Linares
August 8, 2008, 6:03pm (report abuse)My father, Armando Linares Jr, a former U.S. Marine, served in the Vietnam War and passed a few months ago from gastric cancer. After he passed, his claim was dismissed.
Please encourage legislators to support this bill!
Barbara Buhle
August 9, 2008, 10:43am (report abuse)We need your support on making sure this bill is passed. My husband was diagnosed with EC in 2004. He served in the area of Viet Nam where they sprayed daily to kill the foliage for building a road. (of course was told it was safe) He has NEVER smoked or drank heavily. His personal doctor even submitted a letter stating it was just as likely as not to have been caused by Agent Orange. Claim denied. My husband has now been told his cancer is no longer curable, treating symptoms as they come along. Three reoccurences since his diagnosis. My husband and other viet Nam veterans need your help in passing this bill. Its time we stand behind our veterans and do what we can to make their lives easier.
Noel Benefield
August 10, 2008, 4:47pm (report abuse)Congratulations to all who have been involed in the process of widening the current unfairly restrictive associations with Vietnam service.
Long overdue, and one would hope this is not the last classificaton to be included.
Carlo Albanese
August 10, 2008, 6:10pm (report abuse)I urge every political elected representative to embrace this Bill and enact on it immediately, pass it in respect and honor of every Vietnam Veteran who proudly wore the uniform and colors of the United States of America. It is up to our elected officials to send a message through out Washington and to the citizens of the US that we care, respect and honor our Vietnam Veterans with dignity and are committed to care for our veterans, their families and loved ones. It should not have to take 40 plus years to provide health care, services and benefits for those whom have died, sufered and continue to die and suffer from exposure to Agent Orange. "Boots on or Boots off in the Republic of Vietnam."
Heather D in VA
August 11, 2008, 1:19pm (report abuse)My father served in Vietnam and died of cholangiocarcinoma (cancer of the bile ducts) in 2001. I believe his type of cancer was related to Agent Orange.
These types of cancer need to be included. These men faught in Vietnam and then get no assistance when they need it!
Jessica Reyes, TX
August 11, 2008, 7:26pm (report abuse)My husband, a Marine served in Vietnam as a radio operator. In 2005 he was diagnosed with cancer at the junction of his esophagus and stomach. He passed away on March 20, 2007. The same month that he died, his claim for cancer was denied. I believe, without a doubt, that his exposure to chemicals during his service in Vietnam contributed to his cancer. I urge everyone to write your elected officials to support this bill for the families that continue to suffer from actions taken 30 plus years ago.
Jose M. Touron, Jr.
August 12, 2008, 9:29am (report abuse)38 USC Section 1116 should be ammended to include all forms of cancer. Reason: Case Law: Tozzi v US Department of Health & Human Services, et. al 180 F. Supp2d 1 (DDC 2000) & 350 US AppDC 40(2001). The HHS/National Toxicology Program NTP/ and the Environmental Toxicology Program ETP/ HHS 9th Report on Carcinogens in 2000 upgraded TCDD-Dioxin as a known Human Carcinogen...responsible for all forms of cancer. The U.S. is no longer in conflict with the U.S. World Health Organization WHO who declared also that the chemical TCDD-Dioxin is a human carcinogen. Only the Veteran Administration and the Institute of Medicine is in conflict with the U.S. Government and the U.N. on this issue. Its amazing that the VA which is part of the US Government is in conflict with the US Government. The US Government Agency that represented the numerous US Govt Agency Heads in the Tozzi case was the US Attorney General. VA Regulation should be amended to include all forms of cancer.
John Boy
August 14, 2008, 8:44am (report abuse)Please
Please
Pass this bill to help all Viet nam Vets we need all the help we can get........
Laura Hammons
August 14, 2008, 3:38pm (report abuse)Please support this bill.
Daughters of Vietnam Veteran
www.dovv.net
Carol Muilenburg
August 14, 2008, 6:56pm (report abuse)It is very important that this bill gets passed. These guys gave up so much for our country-now lets give them just a little something back.I beleive all types of cancer should be included it this bill.
Cecil Sanders
August 18, 2008, 11:07am (report abuse)I am a viet nam vet living with bladder ca. as always they say ao has no involvment. Please look at the other ca for the rest of us vet with the bastard cancers
Susan J. Hill
August 19, 2008, 11:52am (report abuse)My husband was a Vietnam veteran, USMC, and only 57 years old when he died from esophageal cancer. He struggled for two years to beat this "beast". I have lost my lover, my friend, the light of my life.. PLEASE SUPPORT H.R. 6798.
Stephanie Hill
August 19, 2008, 7:00pm (report abuse)My father, the kindest man I will ever know, died from esophageal cancer. He was a proud United States Marine and proud of his service in Vietnam. The VA denied him compensation for his cancer. He received this denial two days before he succumbed to this horrific cancer. No one will ever convince me that Agent Orange did not kill my dad. I don't know why anyone would vote against this bill but obviously they have no family or friends that were ever exposed to Agent Orange so they are uneducated as to the effects it has on the human body. PLEASE SUPPORT OUR FORGOTTEN VIETNAM VETERANS BY SUPPORTING BILL H.R.6798.
Kelsey Hill
August 19, 2008, 9:08pm (report abuse)Please vote for this. My grandfather was a vietnam veteran and passed away from esophageal cancer at the age of 57. He was like a father to me. And for those of you who have lost your dads you know how hard it is for a young teen to go through that. It has been years and it still hurts. Those that vote against it obviously have no clue what its like to go through not only what he was put through but also what me and my family were put through.
Ann Ackerman
August 20, 2008, 4:11pm (report abuse)Thank you to the 3 Congressmen who are sponsoring this legislation.
HR6798 is important - I hope that others legislators will realize this and vote for it and even join in cosponsoring it.
Hopefully those of you reading this will contact your legislators and ask them to support HR6798.
Mary Schubert
August 20, 2008, 5:27pm (report abuse)Had it not been for Congressman Steve Kagen this bill would not of been introduced. He reviewed my last husbands records and he said there was no doubt that his esophageal cancer was caused by Agent Orange. Thank you Congressman -Doctor Steve Kagen.
Judy Melchert
August 20, 2008, 7:15pm (report abuse)Our Vietnam Veterans served & defended our country, now it's time for our elected officials to defend the rights of those brave men.My husband volunteered two terms in Vietnam and was also called back to service a few years later. He firmy believed his esophageal carcinoma was from his exposure in service as he had no risk factors for the disease. He lost his battle with EC after 5 horrible months and had no financial assistance at all. It is imperative this ball is passed to help other veterans who are still fighting their cancer battles. A fantastic man and father was lost due to the honor he had for his country. I pray this bill is passed
immediately
Susie Lamers
August 20, 2008, 11:04pm (report abuse)Please support this bill! A huge Thank You to Congressman Dr. Steve Kagen for introducing this bill. My Dad passed away on his 56th birthday due to esophageal cancer caused by Agent Orange. He was a true hero and respectable man - he fought for our country along with many others and it is time that we give them and their families what they deserve. My Mom and I researched and battled 5 years of paperwork, appeals and letters before working with Congressman Kagen - he was amazing! He made it his duty to right a terrible wrong from years ago. Please support this bill! Thank You!
Beth Rosenwald
August 20, 2008, 11:27pm (report abuse)My late husband, a Vietnam veteran, USAF, died of esophageal cancer at the age of 54. His claim with the VA was denied just before his death. I promised him, as he lay dying, that I would continue to fight for him and all veterans to get this cancer on the list.
Please support H.R. 6798
Thank you and God bless you, Congressman Kagen.
MIKE KELLEY
August 21, 2008, 9:17am (report abuse)IT'S TIME OUR GOVERNMENT TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR USING POORLY TESTED CHEMICALS IN VIETNAM AND HELPED THE FAMILIES OF ALL THOSE SOLDIERS THAT DIED AS A RESULT! WE TAKE FAR BETTER CARE OF ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!
DON ASHENBRAMER
August 21, 2008, 9:43am (report abuse)I REQUEST THIS BILL BE PASSED ASAP BEFORE MORE VETERANS PASS AWAY FROM THE HERBICIDES USED IN VIETNAM AND DO NOT GET HELP THEY AND THEIR LOVE ONES NEED.
ginny dole
August 24, 2008, 3:32pm (report abuse)please pass this bill. my husband currently has a claim in with the v.a. for his esophageal cancer..he had a 20% chance of living and has beat the odds by the grace of God...many problems from the treatment and constant threat of cancer recurring....he was in vietnam...non drinker and smoker and ate health food...only factor seems to be vietnam and agent orange..please help him
Janice Weston
August 30, 2008, 1:51pm (report abuse)Thank you Congressman Kagen for introducing H.R.6798. It's very important to get this bill passed ASAP. We are losing our Vietnam Veterans at a rapid rate and not enough is being done for them and their families. My husband, a VNV passed away at the age of 56. He proudly served our country not knowing it would cause him to die from Cholangiocarcinoma (Bile Duct Cancer). Please, I urge you to make this right. Thank you.
Thomas
August 30, 2008, 8:19pm (report abuse)I have one concern about all of this - If the congress gets involved in specifying exactly what conditions are related to exposure how long will it be before they have to specify every one. As it is now, even thought it is slow, the VA does not have to have congressional approval to add something to the list. Is it possible that if this legislation is passed giving specific directions to the VA that they will simply wait for the same thing to happen in the future, rather than adding something when the IOM research shows it to be appropriate?
I'm not sure I really trust the congress to be looking out for me and mine.
NNELSON
September 9, 2008, 9:05am (report abuse)Dioxin has been proven to cause all-site cancer. The IOM is dragging their feet and the VA doesn't care. Someone needs to step up. Vietnam veterans are dying of cancers at an alarming rate. Their families are devastated emotionally and financially. This war ended 4 decades ago...you tell me why it's necessary for studies to continue on and on. What about Admiral Zumwalts report? It was ignored because it showed dioxin as it is...an all-site carcinogenic.
LETS GET THIS BILL PASSED FOR THE VIETNAM VETERANS WHO WHERE THERE FOR US WHEN WE NEEDED THEM!
Sharon Wrobel
September 9, 2008, 4:21pm (report abuse)Please pass H.R.6798. My 59 yr old husband is dying of pancreatic cancer which has spread to the liver. He served proudly (Air Force) in Vietnam 1969-1970, exposed to Agent Orange.
Donna Wishon
September 18, 2008, 2:18pm (report abuse)Please pass H.R. 6798. I lost my husband to esophageal cancer this year, February 16, 2008, at the age of 59. His death was caused by his exposure to all of the herbicides sprayed in Vietnam. He proudly served in the USMC from 1965 through 1969, and was stationed in Vietnam (1967-1969) for over 20 months, even though he was his parents’ only surviving son. Being stationed on the DMZ he was constantly sprayed and drenched with these chemicals, even when drinking, eating, etc. This man supported our country to the end and never doubted he did the right thing by supporting our country then or to his death. He was denied benefits; however, his concern was for other soldiers that have faced, are facing, or will face the terrible fate of suffering from these herbicides. He was also concerned with his family and these soldiers’ families. Please pass this bill and thank these soldiers for all they have given: their health and their life.
Arlene Griffin
September 19, 2008, 5:16pm (report abuse)I believe that it is time to take care of the soldiers and their families that have served and died for us. Stop giving to all the countries of the world and take care of them. Please support and pass this bill and anyothers that help our soldiers. If we don't take care of them they cannot take care of us,then what will we do?
Gingerodie
September 21, 2008, 1:50am (report abuse)This bill needs to be passed...veterans are dying without benefits! Please do something about it!
Bill Smith
September 23, 2008, 3:32am (report abuse)This is absolutely rediculous. Must be an election year. The IOM has already determined there is no positive link between any of the digestive system cancers and herbicide exposure.
NNelson
September 23, 2008, 11:52am (report abuse)Mr. Smith,
No, the IOM has not determinded there is no association between digestive cancers and herbicide exposure. As a matter of fact, their latest report states that there in now inadequate or insufficient evidence to determine an association. Their studies continue.
You are not a vietnam veteran. You are an average tax payer, uneducated in dioxins, and fearful that your taxes will be raised because more cancers are being added to the presumptive list for those vietnam veterans who served YOUR country and are now dying because of it. Shame on you.
Bill Smith
September 28, 2008, 5:51am (report abuse)NNelson
Inadequate or insufficient evidence means no benefits. That is how it should be. And that is how it should stay. Period.
By the way, why don't you tell us all you know about dioxins, since you believe yourself to be so well educated. And be sure to tell us about the dioxins each and every citizen has been exposed to at home over the past 35 years since the US involvement in the Vietnam war ended.
NNelson
September 29, 2008, 4:48pm (report abuse)Yes, citizens have been exposed to dioxins but not at the dose rate that Vietnam veterans were. Everyone knows that. My previous statement stands...
It is beyond me as to why you feel these veterans do not deserve the health care and compensation they so rightly deserve. I suspect you feel that no veteran should receive compensation regardless of whether it's presumptive or not. I also suspect that you were one of many who shunned these young men when they returned from Vietnam, never taking into consideration that more than half of them were drafted, did not want to be there, and were just scared kids. You sure your last name isn't Fonda?
Bill Smith
October 2, 2008, 12:33pm (report abuse)NNelson said "Yes, citizens have been exposed to dioxins but not at the dose rate that Vietnam veterans were. Everyone knows that."
There is NO evidence to show the levels of dioxin exposure in Vietnam. You would have us believe that everyone was exposed to some large dose, when there is absolutely no proof of that.
You can call names and make all the idiotic comments you want but you have zero scienctific facts to back your position.
What I see in you is another whiner who thinks the citizens should provide them with an undeserved handout.
carol politz
October 3, 2008, 11:44am (report abuse)My husband passed away 18 years age from pancreatic cancer, he was 46 years old. His doctor's all believed it was from his exposure to agent orange. Please pass this bill so I and many other widows can final have some closure. I have contacted my senators and congressmen from New Jersey and not one of them have responded to my request to become co-sponsors of this bill. Please Please pass this bill
Susan J. Hill
October 3, 2008, 12:10pm (report abuse)Mr. Smith,
Are you stating that you don't feel any diseases that Vietnam veterans have/had should be presumptive to dioxinsthey were exposed to in SE Asia? Just curious as to your exact opinion.
Thanks
NNelson
October 3, 2008, 3:23pm (report abuse)Bill,
Anyone can search the internet and find all the information they need regarding dioxins. There are many scientific facts stating that dioxins/TCDD are an all-site carcinogenic and the more exposure the more likely the cancer.
What I see in you is someone who has no respect for our veterans and couldn't care less what happens to them just so long as it doesn't cost you anything.
I am through with this conversation but thank you for your opinion.
D.R. ashenbramer
October 4, 2008, 8:10pm (report abuse)I am a Vietnam veteran who has been diagnosed with esophageal cancer is the VA waiting until we pass away before the service connect this condition? We need help NOW!co
Bill Smith
October 4, 2008, 9:30pm (report abuse)Susan J. Hill,
I do not question the fact that dioxins cause cancer. The problem here is that the cancers discussed in this bill have not been shown to be positively linked to exposure to dioxin in Vietnam. Until that happens I do not believe it is appropriate for the Congress to legislate the establishment of a presumptive connection.
NNelson,
Your problem, as I see it, is that you believe far too much of the hyperbole, most likely because it supports your position. I venture to say that if you had no financial stake in this you would have no interest in the legislation. As has been said many times - "Follow the money."
Joan Grant
October 6, 2008, 5:20pm (report abuse)Please pass this bill.My husband just passed away in September 2008 with pancreatic cancer and it had spread to his liver. He also was a 100% with CLL. He had 3 tours in Vietnam. He got so sick so fast and was gone within a few weeks. And I am in so much pain for the loss of my husband. Please help us!
Linda Lloyd
October 7, 2008, 2:53pm (report abuse)My husband Mike died from esophageal cancer in July 2008. He was diagnosed in May 2006. This horrific disease is widely recognized as related to Agent Orange, but the VA continues to deny claims. Some men have been approved while others have not. My husband served in Vietnam 68-70, the years they sprayed the heaviest with the deadly dioxin Agent Orange Mixture. His esophageal cancer was at the junction of the stomach, like many other vets. Please pass this bill -- it's long overdue to get gastrointestinal cancers on the presumed list of associated cancers related to Agent Orange. It's the right thing to do. If Wall Street can be bailed out, why not our vets who have suffered an intolerable disease? I beg of you to vote for this bill!
tom ryan ddg-16
October 10, 2008, 2:08am (report abuse)Sue Hill;
Pay no attention to this nnelson fool.
he is on many logs on this site under various false names.
contact me at tomryan1949@yahoo.com.
GOD BLESS YOUR HUSBAND AND THANKS FOR HIS SERVICE.
GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.
DO NOT LET THIS FOOL UPSET YOU PLEASE.
Victoria
October 10, 2008, 2:14pm (report abuse)Tom Ryan,
I don't think it's NNelsen that's upsetting in his comments..it's Bill Smith who thinks gastric cancers should not go through congress to be put on the presumptive list for AO.
Personally, I think it's high time someone gave the VA a kick in the butt to get them motivated. It's beyond me why gastric cancers weren't added long ago. For gosh sakes, these veterans were covered in it, it settled on their food, their water, their clothing and their skin. How could it have not gotten into their stomachs? PLEASE SUPPORT BILL HR 6798!!
TOM RYAN
October 10, 2008, 4:39pm (report abuse)MY SINCERE APOLOGY;YOU ARE CORRECT,
ITS BILL SMITH.
NNELSON I AM SO SORRY.PLEASE FORGIVE ME.I WAS INFURIATED WHEN I READ THE THREADS.SORRY,SORRY,SORRY
Bill Smith
October 10, 2008, 5:08pm (report abuse)Mr Ryan,
Whoever you are you are obviously a person of limited mental capacity. I'm not sure who you think I am but your assumption that I am also on other logs is incorrect.
Tim
October 10, 2008, 5:11pm (report abuse)My dad died from esophageal cancer and I know it was from Agent Orange. The VA does, too, but adding gastric cancers to the presumptive list will cost money and it's money they do not want to spend. The economy is in a mess now, but so is my mom because the money she did have was used up in treatments and surgeries for my dad. The VA keeps denying her claim even though she has sent them an unbelievable amount of positive evidence including letters from my dads doctors stating that his cancer was more likely than not caused from dioxin. It is painful to be without my dad but he is gone and now it's my mom that's suffering. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN AND ASK THEM TO SUPPORT THIS BILL.
Thank you.
tom ryan
October 11, 2008, 7:18pm (report abuse)who i am is of no concern to you.
you never posted on hr6562?
if not,you have a twin fool.
Bill Smith
October 11, 2008, 8:03pm (report abuse)Mr Ryan,
When you make comments such as you did it certainly becomes a concern for me. I have not posted on any other issue here.
The fool is the one who cannot even keep his facts straight. That would be you.
NNelson
October 11, 2008, 10:14pm (report abuse)Mr. Smith,
I have to wonder why this bill is of such great interest to you. I realize it must be difficult to understand where the rest of us are coming from when you do not have a personal experience such as ours. If you would take the time to research dioxins you will understand our concerns that, of all the presumptive diseases that have been added, gastro-intestional cancers should have been on the very top of the list.
We all know the cover-ups involved with the Ranch Hand Study, we know how Zumwalts report was basically swept under the rug, we know of Times Beach, Savaso, Italy, Love Canal and what the Vietnamese are now suffering. I realize this bill will cost the taxpayers and that is unfortunate, but we must pay for the mistakes of the chemical companies that subjected our young veterans to dioxins, the most deadly chemical known to man.
Someday this cancer will be presumptive and then you will understand why.
Best Regards..
Nick
TOM
October 13, 2008, 12:24am (report abuse)AGAIN NNELSON,MY SINCEREST APOLOGY FOR CONFUSING YOU WITH THE BILL SMITH
FOOL.HE SHOULD EAT DRINK AND BATHE IN DIOXIN AND SEE HOW HE FEELS.
JUMP TO HR6562 AND SEE OUR BATTLE THERE.TELL ME THE FOOL HASNT POSTED THERE ALSO."BILL SMITH",WHY NOT USE JOHN DOE?
I DONT UNDERSTAND THE RESENTMENT AGAINST VIET-NAM VETS.IN 6562 CONGRESS PASSED THE BILL IN 1991 AND IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW AND THE VA REFUSES TO FOLLOW THE LAW.DID WE LOOSE THE COLD WAR?
I SURE AM FEELING COLD THESESUFY0W
DAYS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE MR.NELSON
TOM
October 13, 2008, 12:35am (report abuse)DO YOU WRITE FORTUNE COOKIES?????
WE MISS YOU BIG TIME BILL SMITH IN HANOI.
PISTOLS AT 30 FEET FOOL?????
STOP UPSETTING WIDOWS A**HOLE.
Bill Smith
October 13, 2008, 12:50pm (report abuse)Mr Ryan,
I view your comments as threats made by a person of questionable mental stability and will therefore make no further responses to you.
NNelson,
While you may believe certain things are "facts" or "well known" many of us do not see these things that way. You can use these things to shore up your position as you see fit but do not expect others to buy into your proposition just because of those points. As I said before your position is obviously based on the opportunity for financial gain. That makes it suspect.
tom
October 13, 2008, 5:48pm (report abuse)my comments are not threats fool,I can exercise my right to free speech to.
WHAT AM I GONNA DO ,REACH THRU YOUR COMPUTER AND PINCH YOUR NOSE?
PLEASE DO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.
NNElson
October 13, 2008, 10:01pm (report abuse)Mr. Smith,
My final comment to you is that your position is obviously based on the posibility of financial loss. THAT makes it suspect.
NNelson
October 14, 2008, 5:20pm (report abuse)Tom,
No apology needed. I did check comments on bill H. R. 6562 and yes, I see what you mean. Don't you just wonder why these civilians think they know so much about AO/dioxins? Even the IOM can't say with 100% certainty that it's causal or not of diseases. Now we have these "experts" on this site trying to tell us facts that even the IOM can't come to a conclusion on. And as for it all being "follow the money", damn right it is. I'd like to have even one-half of the money back that it took to fight my cancer. Ofcourse, I won't be around long enough to collect even if bill H. R. 6798 passes. KEEP FIGHTING PEOPLE!! SEMPER FI!
TOM
October 14, 2008, 9:44pm (report abuse)MR NELSON DID YOU JUST SCAN THE 500+ POSTS OR JUST SCAN TO GET THE JIST?EITHER WAY MR SMITH HAS A LOT OF TWINS.PRESUMPTION IS PRESUMPTION,NO DEBATE NECESSARY.THE KICK IN THE HEAD IS THAT CONGRESS PASSED THE ACT IN 1991 AND SIGNED INTO LAW.WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS NOT MEN.THE VA REFUSES TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
I CANT TOLERATE SMITHFOOLS HARASSING THE WIDOWS OF MY BROTHERS.SEMPER FI MY BROTHER AND NEVER EVER GIVE UP.WE WILL WIN IN THE END.700BILLIONPLUS TO BAIL OUT BANKS AND THEY CANT THROW A FEW CRUMS TO THE DEFENDERS OF THEIR FREEDOMS?I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND.
THE ESTAMATES ARE THERE ARE ONLY 300,000 VIET-NAM VETS LEFT.IT MAKES ME SAD AND ASHAMED FOR THEM.
ITS ALSO SAD THEY HAVE NO CLUE OF WHAT PATRIOTISM IS.KEEP THE FAITH,
ALL MY BEST,
TOM.
TOM
October 14, 2008, 10:08pm (report abuse)P.S. MR.NELSON,
WE TOOK AN OATH TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST ALL ENEMYS,FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.
THE PART OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT KEEPS RUNNING THRU MY MIND IS "BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY".
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT TIME IS?
JUST A PHILYSOFICAL QUESTION,NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH TREASON.
TOM
Bill Smith
October 16, 2008, 11:23am (report abuse)I can only guess that the only thing that wuold satisfy you is to hand you the keys to the treasury and walk away. Every day the whine grows louder for more and more. Give it a break, please.
Bob Vargo
October 16, 2008, 12:39pm (report abuse)It is every Viet Nam veteran's right to be compensated for their service. It is our lawmaker's constitutional duty and obligation to pass this bill.
Bill Smith
October 16, 2008, 7:59pm (report abuse)Bob Vargo,
What makes you think you have any such "right"? There is no such right. The only rights you have are the same as any other citizen. No one of has any right to expect the other citizens to support them because of what they may, or may not, have done in Vietnam.
NNelson
October 16, 2008, 10:14pm (report abuse)Bill,
We can all see that the stress of reading comments on this site seems to be getting to you. Why don't you just take your little "no" vote and go bother people who care about your opinion.
By the way, did you ever serve your country in any manner? Why do you hate veterans so much anyway? Bet you could't get into the service, right?
I'd say you are just a lonely little man with nothing more to do than surf this particular site. It amazes me as to why. If this bill passes, it will cost you pennies, certainly not enough money to justify all the time you spend posting your negative comments. You are what most refer to as a troublemaker and I can tell you this, most veterans have enough to deal with without you in the picture.
tom
October 17, 2008, 10:07am (report abuse)i've been to the TREASURY AND THERE ARE NO KEYS SMITHFOOL
TOM
October 17, 2008, 10:10am (report abuse)YOU BOB VARGO DO HAVE MORE RIGHTS BEING A VET THEN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN HAS,THE VA IS ALSO A PART OF THE CABINET.
George Andrews
October 19, 2008, 2:42pm (report abuse)Well well Tom,
I see you just wander from one loser group to another. Seems like you can't find anything you really like. Too bad about your bluewaternavy boys being sold doen the river. But then again, isn't that where you all claim you were? Down the river, that is.
Bill Smith
October 19, 2008, 2:55pm (report abuse)George Andrews,
Would you be so kind as to gather up tom ryan and take him back where ever he came? Thanks. There are already enough whiners here as it is.
Toni
October 19, 2008, 11:11pm (report abuse)Please support this bill.
Thank you.
P.S. Would the naysayers please find somewhere else to bash people?
Our Vietnam vets have had enough of your disrespect.
TOM
October 20, 2008, 1:00pm (report abuse)p.s.HR5842;
Mr.Andrews;please go there and take the smithfool with you and inhale.
Please leave the widows alone.
There are plenty of people there to have a rousing debate with.
all my best;
Tom.
Toni R.
October 20, 2008, 3:02pm (report abuse)Someone please tell me why anyone would lurk around this particular bill just to make snide comments to those of us who are in favor of seeing this bill passed? We have every right to our opinion and this bill does affect us directly. It does not affect the hecklers at all.
I am stunned by some of the negative comments directed at what appears to be mainly widows posting here. Just maybe this bill is our last hope at rebuilding a life that was destroyed most certainly by agent orange. There is no reason why lung, prostate, leukemia and other cancers are now presumptive and gastro cancers are not. It should not take a rocket scientist to realize that high levels of dioxin exposed can and do cause all kinds of cancers not just specific ones.
I sure hope these mean people aren't veterans who end up learning the hard way by getting cancer themselves.
.
October 20, 2008, 4:07pm (report abuse)Oh the poor widows. Yeah right.
The current science does not support your contention that dioxin caused the cancers as you claim. Unless that happens you can just continue to whine and cry all you want.
As to the right to opinions - that is not an exclusive right for all you sob and whine folks. Others also have the same right.
Bill Smith
October 20, 2008, 5:13pm (report abuse)Yep, you are only allowed to speak here if you agree with those who are seeking compensation from the government. If you don't agree with their position you are supposed to just shut up and go away. Unfortunately for them that isn't going to happen.
Toni
October 20, 2008, 7:38pm (report abuse)The difference is, we are not harassing you.frankly, no one really knows just what cancers dioxins even cause but they do know that they cause them.
You stated your opinions several times. Why do you continue to do so everytime someone new posts a comment regarding wanting this bill to pass?
We are not whining. We watched our husbands die from cancers that we feel were caused from AO. Scientific evidence has nothing to do with our feelings. We feel..period. If this bill passes, so be it. If it doesn't, well, that's just the way the mop flops.
Your negative comments help no one.
They are mean and uncalled for. No one said we were "poor widows" and I have no idea what you were referring to when you stated "yeah, right". We are widows and we did lose our spouses and we did suffer, and they did suffer, but no one, no single one of us is asking for your sympathy so don't say we are whining and sobbing because that is not true.
Please leave us alone
Victoria
October 20, 2008, 8:21pm (report abuse)Group,
Ignor the uninformed for they know not what they say. They have no experience with this subject so therefore, can not feel as we do.
Keep your chin up and keep fighting for what you believe in.
tom
October 20, 2008, 9:45pm (report abuse)TONI;
IGNORE THE SMITHFOOL AND PLEASE DON'T LET HIM UPSET YOU.WE MUST FIGHT BY WRITING TO OUR CONGRESSMEN.
BELIEVE ME,WE UPSET HIM AND MR ANDREWS MUCH MORE BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT.
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