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H.R. 5882, To recapture employment-based immigrant visas lost to bureaucratic delays and to prevent losses of family- and employment-based immigrant visas in the future (182 comments ↓ | 4 wiki edits)
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H.R. 5882 would recapture employment-based immigrant visas lost to bureaucratic delays and to prevent losses of family- and employment-based immigrant visas in the future.
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John
April 26, 2008, 6:38pm (report abuse)This is the real problem for H-1B worker. There is only 140,000 EB-Base visa/year but it has a lot of unused number left every year. On another hand, EB-base visa is backlog to 3,5,7 years.
Even the H-1B CAP increase to 195,000/year, the EB-base Visa number is 140,000/year or less, What will be the final solution for those H-1B works? And how about 29-month OPT students?
This bill make sure 140,000 visa number will be all used for the right workers. So it is great!
MD
April 28, 2008, 12:33pm (report abuse)Yes I agree that wasted Immigrant visa numbers is a real Issue for H1B workers. The USCIS, which is the gov agency responsible for issuing these Visa numbers (a.k.a Green Cards) to EB (Employment Based) applicants, wastes about 20-30K immigrant visas due to their low productivity. Hence even though 140,000 Immigrant visas are mandated by the Congress to be used up every year, not all these visas get used up. This results in a large backlog of applications from people (H1B applicants), who have wait for undetermined periods of time, for the agency to issue them a visa number. The lives of these people have been kept in limbo as there is no accountability. This bill will bring some hope to those folks, who have been waiting and have been paying taxes on their income.
Keep the skills here so that outsourcing is minimized.
Helen
April 28, 2008, 2:46pm (report abuse)Yes, this is definitely great news. I am a registered nurse and have worked really hard to pass all the needed exams to become a registered nurse and to pass the English test, and now me and my family is in uncertain situation because of all these delays, in fact all our life suspended and depends on the outcome of the debates. Besides, I am affraid that my test results may become out-of date due to the delay of my immigration to the USA. So, I will be praying for the success of this bill!!!
H1B Worker
April 28, 2008, 4:36pm (report abuse)I have a big doubt.Even if this bill will pass [ lets hope..] USCIS will not able to work to use all of these visa numbers in 1 year..They work very slow and their productivity is very less...so no point of increasing visa numbers only also increase the productivity of USCIS.
a nurse
April 28, 2008, 6:34pm (report abuse)to h1b worker, let us be optomistic about this, let's look forward for the passing of this bill and support the uscis who are doing all the best they can to meet the needs of the US citizen. they increased the number of their employees for the past few months just to deal with it and let's hope they will work faster now so that visas will not be wasted. let us pray and support this bill!!!
gcseeker
April 28, 2008, 7:37pm (report abuse)Guys, Immigrationvoice members are sending online faxes to subcomittee members to support this bill. Let's please join them in this campaign. This is a great opportunity!!!
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18804
indenturedbyH1b
May 10, 2008, 4:24am (report abuse)I came to USA in 2000. I still do not have green card. Any job loss will mean immediate going back to my country. My spouse could not work for 2 years risking her career. So much for the american dream. I am wondering if it will ever happen
Hamilton
May 10, 2008, 1:45pm (report abuse)indentured, you make a very good point. In a sense you've been had like the rest of us by these corporations. They have no intention of turning your H-1B into a green card, then you could compete and negotiate. When your visa expires, they can simply replace you with a new H-1B if the caps are expanded as they've requested.
H1BVictim
May 13, 2008, 10:37am (report abuse)This is the worst immigration system in the world!!!..May be some African Countries might run better immigration compare to United States..I am wondering why they are telling this "Advance Country"? USCIS hardly able to use computers to make process fast ..!!Advan Country..they need to think 2 times before they will claim that this is advance county..!!!
Alcola
May 13, 2008, 2:42pm (report abuse)This is one of the best solutions that the house and the congress can do immediately for the broken immigration system of the US. Best wish the bill can pass ASAP!!!
missing our families
May 22, 2008, 6:23pm (report abuse)Hi Ms.Lofgren,
We thankyou for understanding and helping us in this need.We have come here for a better future and hope in our life.Our hard work and education has shown us this destiny.There is no race or cheap labour here.Why is this partiality going on,Just because we are from developing .I apologize for this comment.its a true question ,a doubt lingering our minds.We have so far missed our main seperations at the time of need,marraiges and many more.Even the Advance parole we have applied for ,we havnt received that too.Its more than 8 months.When we think US we imagined a rewarding life which every immigrant has been imagining and enjoying here.Our kids really don't know the difference between these two countries.We are in a bad nutshell...we are unable to move take drastic decisions.We have had enough of seperations and undergoing many frustrations because of the greencard delay.
We request to pass this and relieve us. I wish this bill helps us all.
Reality
May 23, 2008, 12:31pm (report abuse)What is immigration?
Partiality.Aiding as per convenience.Changing bills as per convenience.I am here in a big Q for 10 years here.Just fed up.Immigrants are facing a disrespectful life hanging for survival.Nobody wants to answer or even think to solve our problems.our potentiality our dreams are getting shattered.By calling us cheap labour.Why is there no solution for us guys who have been staying here paying taxes ,everything.How come there is no angel no guide and help us.Its simple A trust for this soil is punishing us
USCIS is NO GOOD
May 30, 2008, 11:30am (report abuse)US should shame on its own!! What is USCIS? They are hopeless and really dumb people!!! They are not going to do anything about imigrants and their problems! They cannot handle more applications..what will they do if they have to handle more people like in INDIA and CHINA? I think BOMBAY municipal corp. might be handling more cases than USICIS!!! but they are fast compare to USCIS!!! Shame on USICS..hopeless agency on earth!!! to waste and spoil peoples life...
Farhan Nazir
June 1, 2008, 2:26pm (report abuse)what are the indicators that USCIS is not working efficently. A huge number of Employement based Immigrant visas
could not be granted in last 10 years and went wasted as USCIS could not process them. The result is a big line of legal
immigrants waiting in queue to get their Permanent residency. If the current trend continues, it will probably take another 5-10 years for the
legal immigrants to get Permanent Residency.This is on the top of 4-5 years that we have already been waiting. If these
unused visas could be recaptured, this could definitely help.
willwin
June 11, 2008, 12:12pm (report abuse)The biggest failure woulb be in not passing this bill. This bill isn't for increasing VISA numbers or bringing in more immigrants than approved. This bill is to use all the numbers that were wasted in the last 10 years or so. It bring relief to thousands of families. This is the least that Congress can do to those skilled people who have come to this country leaving behind their home country and families and values with high hopes.
PrayToGod
June 11, 2008, 9:35pm (report abuse)This is the truly just way to go.
ToomuchDelayOnGC
June 13, 2008, 12:33am (report abuse)1000 IO's 5hr Productive work hr's = 5000hr/day
No of service centers(NSC, TSC, CSC, VSC): 4. 250 IO's/center.
Ave burden on each application May be: 1hr
1.
say, 2,50,000 pending can be cleared in 50 days which is hardly 1.5 months
Fee paid by applicants: On an ave at minimum $650
Total amt paid: $162.500000 mil
Say IO works at $35/hr, Sal expences to process manually in 50 days: $8.75mil
2.
with 5,00,000 pending can be cleared in 100 days which is hardly 3 months
Total amt paid: $325.000000 mil
Say IO works at $35/hr, Sal expences to process manually in 100 days: $17.5mil
This numbers are approximate. In reality much more fee and little more time may be needed.
Expences go down if use systems optimally. People waiting for more than year just get processed.
4 service centers doesn't have 1000 Io's all over country? Can't employ that many at least with the amount of fee receiving?
This kind of numbers explains..Truth.
ToomuchDelayOnGC
June 13, 2008, 12:56am (report abuse)Almost every pending applicant could even prefer to buy a house to settle when he or she gets GC's. Think of how many houses could have been sold? Could have been some relief to housing market at least, if gov used all available potential people efficiently.
USCIS SUCKS
June 13, 2008, 11:40am (report abuse)R U from MEXICO or any other Spanish speaking country? Are you not able to write your name in English? Are you illegal in US? Are you not paying taxes in US? If answer of all these questions is "yes" then you will get GC very fast..This is how Immigration is working in USA! They need illegal people ..they need uneducated people..!! EB1..EB2..EB3..what is that??? Go home and come us illegal..we will give you green card..This what we are..
..USCIS!!!!
21CENTURYSLAVE
June 16, 2008, 6:39pm (report abuse)Hopefully this bill will pass and release us from 21st century educated slavery and may be able to save some money for our family instead of continious payments to USCIs and the lawyers for one or other reasons.
KK
June 18, 2008, 9:39am (report abuse)Immigrants are innovators, if not all, but some for sure. They go on to create companies and hence, jobs for Americans like you and me. Read about the history of Google, Sun Microsystems, Yahoo! and other companies. Ignorance Is Not Bliss!
Jeff Altman
June 18, 2008, 1:43pm (report abuse)I don't get it! Why should these law abiding, tax paying, skilled immigrants be punished for the inefficiencies of USCIS. On the contrary they need to have expidited processing for skilled immigrants who can help turn around this economy, cause I dont want jobs to move to China?
acknowledge
June 19, 2008, 3:33pm (report abuse)Acknowledge every one here hates us.
acknowledge
June 19, 2008, 3:37pm (report abuse)Why r u not accepting .We are paying taxes>here legal from day 1.Why this delay.I dont understand man...could not go to sisters ,brothers wedding.its 7 years.Enough.Is it my fault being in backlog.I cant elave my job too.Waiting waiting waiting...how long.
Lets go Back
June 30, 2008, 2:10pm (report abuse)Myself any my wife are paying $6000/month in taxes!!!..We are here since 2000 and still waiting for Green Card!!! Out of $6000/month ..US is paying "food stamp" to so many US citizen families!!! if they are paying $500/month then ..12 families are getting their food stamp out of the taxes me and my wife are paying!!..If we will move from this country and many more tax payers then ...what will happen??Why this bad immigration with us?? We are here and paying taxes and following the US laws...what else they want from us in order to give a green card?? They are really stupid and idiot people...shame on USCIS...
gcvictim
June 30, 2008, 4:07pm (report abuse)some body tell me what's going on with this bill. What are the chances for this bill to be passed. If this bill isn't passed till sept then we may not see recaptured visa numbers as the effective date mentioned the very end of bill is from the start of fiscal year once the bill is passed
waiting4eightyrs
July 15, 2008, 1:35pm (report abuse)Its funny how for a country who's foundation lays on "No caste, creed race or sex but the best" has a criteria for entering and getting into naturalization as "Are your from India/China/UK/France/Afgan..etc. and have quota system".
Lets face it if you are good you make it and let the country prosper on a free economy and culture.
This bill will rectify some of the current economic and immigrant issues rather than creating more. Just imagine so many people waiting for Green card and not spending much and saving money for the rainy day, gets their GC. Everyone eventually will put the money back into the system esp buying a house for instance.
Its shear common-sense to support this bill and shear prejudice against certain race not to support it.
Hamilton
July 16, 2008, 2:13am (report abuse)Waiting4eight: As you so astutely point out in the beginning of your comment, race has nothing to do with this issue. American citizenship has never been an entitlement to anyone but existing American citizens. The other commenters who chide the USCIS might do well to remember that they are here as 'guests' and their presence is a privelege, not a right. The opposition to this bill does not propose to change America's already generous immigration program. It simply proposes to not expand it. In a somewhat unstable economy where American workers are being displaced at all levels of the economic scale by immigrant labor, it just doesn't make sense right now. If you don't believe the displacement statement, just look up, 'Nielsen TATA Oldsmar'
Legal
July 30, 2008, 3:38pm (report abuse)Hamilton, you must be kidding when you say 'America's generous immigration program'. Look at EU countries that are opening up to immigration - you can get UK citizenship in as less as 4 years - compared to US citizenship that takes about 11 - 13 years (GC processing years (6 to 8) & 5 additional). Same goes with other EU countries.
Even if this bill passes today, it will take 1.5 to two years to see its effects. Economy is cyclical & will definitely improve by then. Which is why it is important that US needs to be ready to with strong workforce by then.
Legal
July 30, 2008, 3:50pm (report abuse)I think, everyone understands that immigration/green card/citizenship is privelege & not a right. No one is demanding it & we are requesting a fix to the system that is inefficient and is wasting the number of visas year over year.
immigrant
July 31, 2008, 1:17pm (report abuse)Hamilton - Every immigrant knows immigration to any country is a privilege.but like the above comments why this 7 % quota .Remove that first.we are asking for recapturing the unused EB visas.only EB visas.Here since 8 yrs and would like to live like other immigrants do.I beleive there is nothing wrong in that.The govt knows what we are talking about , may be becoz of pressures they are acting like that.
Immigrant
July 31, 2008, 1:22pm (report abuse)America has seen ups and downs.this is not new to this beautiful country.this downside of the economy is only temp.Just peek into the history...I did...This country has succeded in every hurdle.
Get out of my country
July 31, 2008, 4:20pm (report abuse)Go back home to your crappy countries. America doesn't need you.
crap you
August 1, 2008, 3:43pm (report abuse)the statement has to be reversed -
so sad -this country is facing people like you. ha ha ha JEEZZZZZZ
GOD BLESS YOU!
just a thought on everything
August 4, 2008, 12:10am (report abuse)if congress decides on what bill would be best for the american people,i dont see how they can be accurate on how many people there realy are in this country.i think that the soultinn is that we have a national voting service on every bill that is presended,with some kind of phone voting.if american idol can produce as many votes as they do each year just from music then think of how we could all vote together as one on everything.
Bruce
August 4, 2008, 5:33pm (report abuse)Yes, I see. The problem has been an vastly excessive number of student, exchange and guest-work visas being issued, which neither USCIS nor DoL were capable of processing properly, and which led to excessive applications for green cards. Cut the numbers of student, exchange, and guest-work visas back to reasonable levels of 1K or so of each f these 3 categories in the USA at any one time, and poof, the back-log of green card applications would disappear.
James
August 5, 2008, 4:45pm (report abuse)According to some estimates about 600,000 visas are wasted due to the delays in the processing in the past 10 yeas. These visas can be used for scietists and Computer profeesinals.
USCIS -dictator
August 6, 2008, 9:43am (report abuse)USCIS is nothing but a dictator..USCIS will do what ever it wants to do..they will never become transparent to applicants!! There is no one in United States who can ask USCIS "What they are doing and how they are doing". Not a single political party is interested in immigration mess..In this situation USCIS has all power to do what ever a dictator will do..Who has dare to ask them???
Are you a native indian?
August 8, 2008, 4:32pm (report abuse)"Get out of my country"
It is a pity that there are people like you who don't read the complete bill or understand your origin. In other words, if you were a native indian, i would have gone back. But as your forefathers did, this is my country now.
US Immigrant
September 2, 2008, 11:11am (report abuse)The Immigration system is broken, They give 65K H1B Visas a year, going as high as 195000
but 140K immigrant visas are too less due to number of dependents, 245i, etc
Add to this the inefficiency of the USCIS which is adding to the frustration.....
This bill is a first step to fix the issue.
VS100
September 4, 2008, 1:42pm (report abuse)IT IS A GREAT GREAT GREAT RELIEF BILL FOR ALL AND EVEN FOR AMERICA'S ECONOMY
GCBS
September 5, 2008, 5:23pm (report abuse)I think soon the sh*t will hit the fan. If USA Immigration system will not be fix, USA will be hurt! Economy is going dow, some intelligent people are going somewhere, dollar value going down,
lot of countrie pissed off, etc.
I hope the government will fix this mess or goodluck to all of us!
Mentor
September 7, 2008, 8:45am (report abuse)If immigrants were to leave,
1) Who will pay Social Security benefits to your elders?
2) Who will buy new houses?
3) For every EB-immigrant you loose, you loose 3 american jobs. This is for sure.
Unfortunately, this may very well happen if congress doesnt act this time.
Dan
September 7, 2008, 9:31am (report abuse)In our county, we are in dire need of registered nurses and almost all hospitals cannot meet the 1:5 ratio requirements without forcing current nurses to work on double shifts. This pose as a safety risk to the patients and to the nurses as well. We need additional licensed nurses. We saw how good these foreign nurses are. Recapturing unused visas will help those waiting in line get a visa and enter the US and help mend the shortage of nurses here in the US.
ASoftwareArchitect
September 7, 2008, 12:16pm (report abuse)If something is promised then it has to be given, if the System promises certain number of visas and if due to the efficeincy of the system if they fail to process it and keep up the word there has to be a channel to fix and give back those #s otherwise it will set a bad example and it will reflect in other parts of the system where whats is promised might not be delived. So I think it should be given back to hard working immigrants who sacrifice a lot for their American dreams and This move will help the lack luster economy ,subprime. If the Green cards are given Im sure lot of immigrants are looking and willing to start their own which provide and create more jobs for the Americans which will bring more money to the system so i personally feel the immigrants should be given back those #
Asheville
September 7, 2008, 2:23pm (report abuse)I'm not for increasing immigration, but look at it like this. This seems to be mostly about people that are already here..... Well i say "let them stay" - if they agree to buying an existing home.
Maybe this is a congressional stimulus package for the ailing housing markets.
Kumar
September 7, 2008, 3:11pm (report abuse)Well in any country, immigration plays a vita role in shaping the economic and cultural performances. A lot of you may concur with me, Diversity is good, specially in times when Global Business has become a key of survival for any big company.
However I am against H1b visa system, all the Indian companies are abusing the H1b visa's, they bring consultants from India, pay them cheap and exploit not only these poor consultants but the companies as well.
All these consultants who declare about 5 year work experience, is a big deceive, they don't have any 5 year experience, it is all a big corporate lie.However, I am in favor of more number of green cards, because of these practices by a few, a lot other people have to suffer.1. We cannot buy homes.
2. Spouses cannot work 3. Personal decisions are on hold.So please I ask all of you, to support the people who have worked very hard in this country and are waiting for their green cards for last 10 years. Please understand and help us.
Kumar
September 7, 2008, 3:22pm (report abuse)"Asheville", I concur with you 100%, people who are in ques for green cards, we should end their misery from backlog, we should give them the green cards, they will ultimately use this opportunity to buy homes, which will help our housing market, their spouses will be able to work, which will give them a buying power to help the economy to grow.
However I am against the H1b visa, which is abused by Indian companies, we should start an investigation against these companies, their is no real need, but it is artificially fabricated by these companies. I have masters from this country, my wife has a Masters as well, both from Top universities.We paid our due's, paid taxes, have been following the laws, and we want ourselves to get green card to buy a home and build the foundation for our families. Please Help us, to make better future for our kids and for you all.
AmericanDream
September 7, 2008, 3:41pm (report abuse)Anyone who is not in favor of this bill please understand that this bill
1.Will NOT add any more new visas.
2.Will NOT bring any new foreign workers to US.
3.Will NOT replace any american from American jobs.
4.will NOT bring down wages of American tech worker.
Bottom line,all it does is change the visa status of a worker who is already in US for past 4 to 8 years and who is already in US.
WaitingInLimbo
September 7, 2008, 5:27pm (report abuse)All who are debating this bill should understand that this bill-
1. Is for using the Visa's which were unused in past few years.
2. Is for those who are already in US and working for past 4 to 10 years.
This Bill-
Will NOT bring any new foreign worker to US.
Will NOT add any more new Visas.
nurse
September 7, 2008, 6:58pm (report abuse)The persons who oppose this bill seems to be in dark and they are jealous about others.Please remeber that America is built of immigrants,so please mind comments.Immigrants play important role in building economy and they are helping that nation.So please pass this bill
Gene
September 7, 2008, 9:08pm (report abuse)This is a great bill. It helps us retain Doctors, Nurses, Research scientists and other professionals that we need. These people have waited patiently in line for up to 10 yrs, while the do nothign congress has toyed around with the "CIR" issue. They have done everything the correct way and due to Gov't bureaucratic delays, even the allotted visas were not approved. This bill redresses that issue and at this time would give a side benefit of a boost to the housing market, as they buy homes. Alternately, if we kick them out imagine 200K people each leaving with their 200K dollars saved! Why?
Imagine the loss of skills, the loss of taxes paid, consumption etc etc. Remember these are very desirable responsible citizens.
We must pass HR5882 now.
Kris
September 7, 2008, 9:21pm (report abuse)This indeed is a good bill, the good for nothing Congress has not done anything useful, they could do something good now, by approving this bill. I have some skilled professional working in my project team, who are stuck in this limbo for a long time, they work hard and all they aspire for is a better life for themselves and for their families. Lets reward them for once, and value their skills and their hard work that has made Unites States a Strong country of business and technology.
AM
September 7, 2008, 11:27pm (report abuse)If immigrants were to leave,
1) Who will pay Social Security benefits to your elders?
2) Who will buy new houses?
3) For every EB-immigrant you loose, you loose 3 american jobs. This is for sure.
RP
September 8, 2008, 11:53am (report abuse)This bill would add an additional 550,000 permanent green cards annually, despite unemployment being at its highest level in five years in the US. How is it good for US workers to have 550,000 more people to compete with for jobs?
Has anyone who's an American tried to find an IT job lately? Most are taken by foreign workers. How is that good for America?
Recapture
September 8, 2008, 12:11pm (report abuse)RP - Answer your question is simple. Do you know what this bill does?
"EB(Employment Based) bill is for people who already HAVE a JOB in the US and not taking any new american Jobs.
Unemployment being highest level in 5 years doesn't mean there are no Jobs - its because people want Job based on
1. Work Type
2. Location, Location and Location.
Not many people want to travel to different state in order to work (other than foreign workers) they like to find Job where they live and if there are no Jobs near by they don't try. Search on Monster.com or Dice.com there are lot of IT Job openings.
OnlyifUSgetsit
September 8, 2008, 12:49pm (report abuse)The wait for green card has been never ending. I have been in the country since '97, and I hope that this bill passes and provides us with some relief. Thank you senator Lofgren for sponsoring this bill. If the US delays in reforming its immigration policies, Canada, Australia and the other EU countries are seizing this opportunity to attract highly skilled immigrants. This is a land of immigrants and hope our American dream comes true.
FedUP
September 8, 2008, 12:58pm (report abuse)I have two masters in engineering and pursuing MBA and work as a Senior System Analyst... can you afford to lose me ?
I have been here for the past 10 years...and is this how a country treats educated ???
Shame on America.
HandsTied
September 8, 2008, 2:23pm (report abuse)Being a victim of the vague regulation, laws and quota for permanant residency; I put in my first application in 2001 and have been waiting since then. I believed the in American dream and system and followed all the rules. I like America and all the people but on the other hand I feel like an educated slave who nobody wants to listen.
George
September 8, 2008, 2:32pm (report abuse)I would consider myself the legal immig. Had my Master degree in US, working in a US manufacture company, helping US competing with rest of the world (Japan, China, Europe) however instead of helping me the immigration system breaks my heart by keeping so many obstacles on my way of becoming a citizen. Really hope this bill can pass to ease my frustration. Besides my wife and I have at lease 50k in cash would will buy a house if we are sured to stay here permanently. I guess many skilled legal immig. will do the same thing once they get GC.
RP
September 8, 2008, 2:57pm (report abuse)Yes but without green cards they cannot move from their current positions. With a green card they can compete even more directly with American workers right? Also, if they have jobs now didn't they have the take them from Americans? Someone was doing it before them right?
Actually, "Unemployment at the highest level in 5 years" DOES mean there aren't any jobs. I look at Dice and Monster all the time since I'm a CIO at my company.
What do we tell the new graduates in Computer Science. Too bad we gave you job to someone from India cause that's what's happening...
Son of immigrant
September 8, 2008, 6:21pm (report abuse)Having been born of immigrant parents I have no problem with a reasonable number of people being allowed to legally enter the country but would really wish congress would work on the illeagl problem first. Laws have already been passed, reform is not what's needed, enforcements of exsisting laws is needed. Then focuss on helping honest hard working people to enter the country legally.
LBB
September 8, 2008, 6:26pm (report abuse)Reading all of these posts, I'm appalled at the grammer, mispelling, etc. I'm an immigrant. I've assimilated. Learn the language for crying out loud. Try to fit it. Get out of your social groups. And quit whining! If you don't like it, go back to where you came from.
Legal Immigrant Seeker
September 8, 2008, 6:48pm (report abuse)Passing this law will NOT ADD ANYMORE NEW people in this country. So Employment Rate will NOT BE AFFECTED. People who are asking for this law to pass are ALREADY present here and are all working.
JP
September 9, 2008, 1:34pm (report abuse)This bill will give 500,000 greencards which will take away american jobs, Also those who get these greencards can now compete with any job in america not necessarily skilled jobs - how is this benefiting America when the unemployment is all time high?
F. Frank Martin
September 9, 2008, 2:48pm (report abuse)Please no more immigrants until our children all have jobs. America is NOT an endless moneytree. We are shooting ourselves in the foot. As for "KK"
why do we need immigrants for innovation? We have plenty of innovation with the people already here. The milk and honey bus is full folks, please go home and come back another day when the milk is flowing and the honey is plentiful because right now it's all dried up. Where are the pensions, the 401's, the age 65 retirements? They are all gone to taxes, politicians, democratic handouts, wars, credit malfunctions.
You are only part of the problem but please go home anyway and come back another day.
John
September 9, 2008, 2:59pm (report abuse)If you immigrants are so highly skilled, why can't you spell and use proper english?
To LBB
September 9, 2008, 3:58pm (report abuse)Such a hypocrite.
LBB writes : "Reading all of these posts, I'm appalled at the grammer, mispelling, etc. I'm an immigrant. I've assimilated. Learn the language for crying out loud. Try to fit it. Get out of your social groups. And quit whining! If you don't like it, go back to where you came from."
It's not grammer fool. It's grammar.
JP
September 9, 2008, 4:33pm (report abuse)Mr.Fedup, who are you to say "Shame to America" , Greencard is not your birth right, if you have a problem go back to your country.
Born on American Soil
September 9, 2008, 6:52pm (report abuse)Mentor; where do you get your ridiculous statistics? FedUp; I am glad you are fedup, go home so my son can have your job, that is how we should properly treat his intelligence, not with a low paying job because you took his good job. The rest of you angry whiners;
You come here and we give you a dream job making more money than you could ever make back in your
dysfunctional home country. And then you turn around and call us "idiots" and other names because you feel you deserve more. Why do you deserve more? Because you worked for a few years and paid a few taxes?
That is not justification to displace your host, call him an idiot, and take his job. Your few years does not outweigh the generations that laid the foundation of this country. Learn from America, go back home, and emulate us, but do not call us idiots and displace us.
Come back when times are better, please. The liberal Visa handouts have been abused for far too long.
A wasted Visa is the best Visa.
Let the system decide
September 9, 2008, 11:17pm (report abuse)Stop whining both sides. Let the great system that took this great land of oppurtunity to where it is today decide on this.
CK
September 10, 2008, 9:16am (report abuse)Dear BOA Soil,
I understand your frustration. Before jumping your guns
1.Recapturing of immigrant visas is for ppl ALREADY in US with a JOB so its no threat to the jobless or the ones looking for jobs
CK
September 10, 2008, 9:17am (report abuse)2.Most dont invest, buy homes, start businesses for the same insecurity, and would goback to their "disfunct countries", so giving them status is good for the economy as they will buy homes, invest here, and produce more jobs for American People. How do I know? I employ some of native born people.
3.Legal immigration is much bigger and complex system than you can ever possibly understand with your simplistic assumptions. Its flawed and broken. Its easier to be illegal in this country than try for legal residency. How do I know? With a Masters degree from a prestigious US institution it took 5 years for me to understand...go figure
CK
September 10, 2008, 9:18am (report abuse)4. I will stay here to make my life better, no matter how anxious and insecure you become, so going away and coming back when times are better are for uneducated, incompetetive, lazy people..I promise to stand up and work my ass off to make tons of money and pay taxes and hire more American people, all legally, however difficult it is, providing an example to my brown kids on how hard they make it here, so they grow up and kick everyones ass and be super good, like you see at the apelling bee's.
5.You will understand the pain if you have a family and some system forbade your children or spouse to see you, join you, and even if they do, forbids them to work for another 10 years, inspite of being qualified, smart and competetive, the founding qualities of america that made it what it is in the first place.
I rest my case, till your next misinformed comment..
Ron P
September 10, 2008, 11:13am (report abuse)The american unemployment rate rose to 6.1 percent this month. We need to employ Americans first before we facilitate a system that allows easier access to American jobs for foreigners.Congress continues to forget who they work for when they submit this legislation. Americans here are suffering and need to have access to jobs first. After all they are the "people" the constitution speaks about serving.Ther constitution does not grant foreigners who want to enter the country and displace American workers the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. But that right is afforded to American citizens.
Native American Indian
September 10, 2008, 11:36am (report abuse)Oh look what Ron P is talking about now
to CK
September 10, 2008, 1:10pm (report abuse)CK, KUDOS to you!!!
RP
September 10, 2008, 4:08pm (report abuse)These greed cards will be given to people who are already living and working here in America. If they are currently on a H1B visa then they usually have to stay at the position they were hired for or go home. Once these 550,000 green cards are issued then the holders will be able to leave their positions and complete with Americans even more directly for jobs. How is this good for Americans looking for work? Doesn't it make it even harder for Americans as now they have 550,000 more people to compete with?
TA
September 10, 2008, 4:32pm (report abuse)To: AM. You ask:
"If immigrants were to leave,
1) Who will pay Social Security benefits to your elders?
2) Who will buy new houses?
3) For every EB-immigrant you loose, you loose 3 american jobs. This is for sure."
My response:
1) American workers currently unemployed because of foreign workers will pay into Social Security when you leave. It's no secret that one doesn't pay Social Security taxes when one is out looking for a job that was taken by cheap foreign labor.
2) See my response to #1 above. When the hundreds of thousands of American high tech workers return to the work force, they will buy the new houses.
3) I shouldn't even respond to this one, because the premise is total BS. Each H1B generates 3 American jobs??? Total BS. You need to quit drinking the Kool-Aid. Rather, for every H1B that gets sent back home, it will create multiple jobs for Americans hired to rewrite the awful code that most H1Bs are known for.
RP
September 10, 2008, 4:46pm (report abuse)How do H1Bs create 3 American jobs each? I'd really love to see the data on that. Probably made up by to Tech Industry to get more H1Bs. Most of the H1Bs I've worked with are very junior programmers how do they create 3 jobs?