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H.R. 5781, The Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act of 2008 (90 comments ↓ | 10 wiki edits: view article ↓)

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H.R. 5781 would provide that 8 of the 12 weeks of parental leave made available to a Federal employee shall be paid leave.

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Scott

May 5, 2008, 5:39pm (report abuse)

I fail to understand how paid maternity leave is the taxpayer's problem. Women make the choice to have a child, and taxpayers should not be punished for a woman's failure to plan. Let the companies decide whether to offer paid leave.

Anonymous

May 7, 2008, 11:57pm (report abuse)

We're all employed by someone, whether it be gov't or private sector. All gov't employees can do is save money and paid leave, we're not allowed to pay into any state disability programs because we are in the federal gov't. Believe me, I tried. Many private sector employers offer parental leave. Shouldn't we all receive similar benefits regardless of whom you're working for?

becky

May 9, 2008, 11:45am (report abuse)

Private employers pay higher wages and offer paid leave because they place value on the family. Our tax dollars support poor mothers and poor families, why punish those who serve our federal government

Anissa

May 13, 2008, 10:40pm (report abuse)

I do not see how a woman being pregnant is her choice or failure to plan. It takes two people to tango... Or sometimes one to force it. Either way it's not her lack of planning. A woman would have to work for 8 years to save enough leave time to cover the birth and medical appointments required for a normal pregnancy. It's absurd to expect anyone to plan out 8 years for that.

Lastly, why do you choose to see only that the woman benefits? What about that child? Shouldn't our goal be to provide the very best for the next generation? Shouldn't that be the goal of the governement as well? And I'm not sure when the last time you checked federal wages was, but OPM's website will show that federal wages aren't the best either. Many federal employees qualify for state and federal aid... so your tax dollars pay for services for them already. Government employees should be treated as well as their civilian counterparts.

B

May 15, 2008, 4:23pm (report abuse)

In most cases it's a family choice to have a child. And as for "planning" a pregnancy -I don't know anyone who has ever successfully "planned" a pregnancy to happen when they wanted it to.

As for taxpayers paying for our leave, I am a taxpayer and I get to support a number of programs I don't qualify for. Yet there are people abusing these programs and milking every benefit. I personally know several doing this. And I get denied the simple benefit of 8 weeks of paid leave with my newborn when I am responsible enough to want to work and support my family and try to provide a good life for them and not take advantage of government programs. Let's talk fairness....

GR

May 15, 2008, 4:56pm (report abuse)

To those who comment negatively on this - not everyone chooses to become a parent but I hope you would try to understand. Pregnancy is work in itself but maternity leave is work unto itself, especially if you have more than one child already. Maternity leave is NOT a vacation -time is needed for all the new adjustments, not to mention healing. Personally, our first born was a huge surprise and I scrambled to build up 6 weeks of leave. My doc said I wasn't ready to return but I could not go on LWOP as the primary income for our family so I had to return, health aside. Please support 8 to 12 weeks of parental leave, it will only provide for more positive and happy and healthy employees. And how can that be bad?

Celia Briar

May 18, 2008, 3:09am (report abuse)

Almost every country in the world has paid parental leave for public and private sector employees. That includes some very poor countries. The US is very unusual in not helping women who are bringing the next generation into the world. This Bill is a good start - good luck with it.

C

May 24, 2008, 3:00am (report abuse)

GR has a great point. I just had a baby and do not work for the government but fortunately I do work in a great place where co-workers donated sick-leave to help me stay home longer. Maternity leave is definatly not a vacation! In fact it is some of the hardest work there is. Although I do not work for the government I do have friends and family that do and knowing that they would be able to take the time they need when they have a baby is a great thing. As someone else stated, we are already paying for many programs that many of us do not get to use, why not pay for something that is promoting family.

Captain

June 17, 2008, 5:52pm (report abuse)

This is so wrong and on so many levels. You get paid for doing a job, regardless of your position. The difference here is a taxpayer has no choice on paying taxes, I have a choice in which private secotr company I choose to spend my hard earned $$ with. If those private firms want to pay for Maternity leave, good for them, but taxes no.

Also, if federal wages aren't enough for you, get a better job. (I'm a federal worker also, but because I want to help vets, not for the $$). Just because other "pay" doesn't mean its right. Finally, why can't if get some type of leave when my favorite team wins the superbowl or World Series, etc.

Because once we make an exception for one thing, there are 100's of other reasons.

Bill Favor

June 18, 2008, 1:50pm (report abuse)

If the current administration is going to stick with family values, God, and the bible, then this should not get vetoed. I hope Congress can override the promised veto.

RP

June 18, 2008, 2:32pm (report abuse)

If this is wrong on so many levels, then how is getting taxed to take care of slackers any more fair? I don't have a choice in that! I am a federal employee who chooses to work where we can do great science - I'm not in it for the money either. I want to make a difference, but to deny time to properly care for a newborn tells me that my family life is not important. So when my child is born I am only entitled to use the leave I have accrued, which might be 3 to 4 weeks? Fine, don't give parental leave, but then open up the leave donation program so we can get donated leave for maternity leave -without having to get doctor's notes and jump thru a million hoops when we need to be taking care of our children preparing them to be the next leaders of the free world.

Jenna

June 18, 2008, 2:41pm (report abuse)

This absolutely needs to pass. We need our family values back!

MM

June 18, 2008, 10:44pm (report abuse)

I do not understand why people can be so selfish in this country. We were all babies at some point and will most probably have kids in the future, so this helps society as a whole. Furthermore, the cost is minimal when compared to the IRAQ war. America, where are our priorities and values?

This bill must pass!

Payor

June 19, 2008, 7:00pm (report abuse)

The Captain is right.

Taxpayers selfish? That's more than a little backwards.

Go work for a "for profit employer".

They have an important job too.

Sean

June 21, 2008, 2:20am (report abuse)

Getting paid for not working is not right. Only 8 percent of private sector employees have acces paid leave. Holding a person's job under FMLA 1993 is more than good enough. The estimated cost of this program is $850 million dollars (2009-2013). This kind of money could be better used for other things.

Sean

June 21, 2008, 2:39am (report abuse)

Federal Retirement is a bad deal people are begin to realize it. The government realizes it and wants to use this as an incentive.

Bill

June 22, 2008, 7:47pm (report abuse)

Another example of people wanting government to do for them what they should do themselves.

More Socialism creeping in. Wake up people we cant afford this kind of stuff.

Sean is right

June 22, 2008, 8:33pm (report abuse)

Fed retirement a bad deal. We need to repeal the WEP & GPO. This leave issue is a carrot for younger government employees. I’m retired. My gross CSRS retire pay is $1,381. I am unable to collect on my earned SS benefit or my portion of my spouse's SS due to WEP & GPO. If widowed--I'm an instant bag-lady and too old to babysit the little one’s whose parents go back to work.

j

June 23, 2008, 3:41pm (report abuse)

Captain you are comparing child birth and recovery to the world series??? nothing you say can be taken seriously here. The USG needs this type of programming to keep and attract talent who are going to private sector jobs. The USG needs to stay competitive in this job market.

dem in tx

June 23, 2008, 7:26pm (report abuse)

We can't afford to give our people basic benefits but we can afford billions of dollars to other countries.... $850 million dollars for americans to spend on their families vs the trillions in iraq war... wtf?????

Huddie

June 24, 2008, 1:41am (report abuse)

Don't want my tax dollars funding this ridiculous bill. Federal employees (and I'm one of them) already have great benefits. We should consider rewarding people for not having kids, our planet would certainly appreciate it.

Mary

June 25, 2008, 7:53pm (report abuse)

Our planet would appreciate a drop in population, but we should elimanate the sick, so let's cut health care instead. If we elimante the unborn then we'd be ending the world... I can't believe how ignornat most of the men are on this site. Let them squeeze out a baby and we'll see their attitude change.

Me again

June 25, 2008, 7:58pm (report abuse)

It about drove us to the poor house when my wife had a baby while employeed for the Fed's. She had a normal pregnancy but with all the appointments and delivery time she used her leave in no time at all. Luckily where I worked I got paternity leave. But how messed up is that, the father gets paid time off, but the mother who is doing the actual work doesn't?!?!

Jeni

June 25, 2008, 8:02pm (report abuse)

How is "being paid to not work" different from workmens comp or any other medical condition different than for a woman having a child? Or even just regular vacation days or holidays? Don't we all (those that work anyway) in fact, get paid to not work at some point in time? In fact, having a baby is a TEMPORARY DISABILITY and should be treated as such!

Pebbles

June 25, 2008, 8:03pm (report abuse)

Just another way to supress women...

Tax info

June 25, 2008, 8:24pm (report abuse)

Income security programs, including unemployment compensation, retirement and disability programs, and benefits such as food stamps and housing subsidies, also come from Federal Government revenues. The Federal Government spends money on health care, including assistance for the poor through the Medicaid program, the training of health care professionals, and medical research activities. Programs for education also get funded by Federal revenues.

Veterans receive benefits from the Federal Government.

Transportation for constructing highways, mass transit systems, and airports, the costs of operating the Coast Guard, airways, and assistance to railroads and shipping are additional areas.

more

June 25, 2008, 8:25pm (report abuse)

There are other Federal Government services including protection of natural resources, environmental protection, and maintenance of recreation areas and public lands, there is assistance to foreign countries, disaster relief and community and regional development, energy research, development, and conservation, and space exploration.

and more

June 25, 2008, 8:25pm (report abuse)

The Government must pay for its administrative activities, along with Federal law enforcement and Federal prisons, payments to the Postal Service, aid to small businesses, and mortgage financing insurance. The Government provides funds for crop subsidies, agricultural research, and conservation of farmland.

Captain

June 26, 2008, 11:54am (report abuse)

Some of you are missing quite a few points here. 1) If you have an entitlement for one group you must have entitlement for other groups, what about the federal employee who adopts a child, why shouldn’t they get 8 weeks also, how about the FE who has to move-in their parent because they cannot live alone anymore, where is their 8 weeks. (cont)

Captain

June 26, 2008, 11:54am (report abuse)

Right now you are saying to yourself, “dude that isn’t going to happen”, well let me tell you a story, my department has 2 divisions, one division (not mine) had a birthday party every month for those celebrating their birthday that month, and everything was donated by that division, this had been going on for years. Well my division hired a new lady, older about 55-experienced-FE, the 1st month here she filed a complaint that one division celebrates birthdays and the other doesn’t and it’s not fair. I KID YOU NOT, so now either we have a department party or not at all, sad right. So for every new entitlement that’s $850 MILLION dollars. (cont)

Captain

June 26, 2008, 11:55am (report abuse)

2) If someone makes a decision to have a child, he or she should be able to afford that child, just like if I want a fancy car, I have to be able to afford the insurance, otherwise just because I can have the car doesn’t mean I should. As a taxpayer I should not be “charged extra” to support your child. In the private sector, it’s all-good; it’s their profit they risk, not my tax dollars. (cont)

Captain

June 26, 2008, 11:55am (report abuse)

3) And finally to “dem in TX”, I know you have never, ever lifted a finger to defend this country, and I know you did not lose a relative in 9/11, I know you haven’t lost friends in the war and I know you aren’t a disabled veteran, I am have suffered all those things. All that $$ for the war, as we say in New York, “it’s the price of doing business”, and now you know the price I have paid for your freedom!

Pam

June 26, 2008, 3:29pm (report abuse)

I am a federal worker as well as a veteran. I had my first child on active duty, and was well taken care of. As a DoA civilian, I do earn sick and annual leave, but with a toddler at home, I use that leave often for her misc illnesses. I am now pregnant with my second child. What little leave I have, I typically use with my OB appointments. I did not plan this pregnancy, it just happened. And I am thrilled. However, I do not get paid maternity leave, and neither does my husband (also DoA Civilian). If I were to take no leave until my baby is born, I won't even have a week. I can't afford to not get paid for six weeks, which is the youngest age daycare will except. It is not YOUR fault that I am a "poor planner" or "financially insecure federal worker". However, it is my employers fault that I won't be paid for six weeks. Certainly, I am not expected to abort or abandon my child because my employer doesn't offer paid maternity leave.

Pam

June 26, 2008, 3:34pm (report abuse)

I completely aggree with Jeni. A woman has a child, and is typically out for six to eight weeks, if no complications. How is this different than a disability? As federal workers, we cannot apply for State disability coverage, but certainly, the federal government wants these mothers back to work for them, rather than loose them to their competetors for workers. Women are a large part of the work force. We aren't going to give up our right to a family. I feel sorry for all of those that don't support this bill. It is finally a step in the direction of supporting families in a time that they truely need it.

Lisa

June 26, 2008, 9:53pm (report abuse)

I am a PREGNANT federal employee, do not get paid much (less than 40k) and it takes me 1 month to earn 2 days of leave (sick & annual)!! It takes forever to earn this leave. And every monthly appt. I have to use that earned leave....it's not as easy as you all think. I denied the federal health benefits because they are so expensive and am on my husband's insurance. The government benefits are not all that they are cracked up to be. I haven't had a vacation in forever and there are days when my back is killing me and I would love to take a few hours off....but missing a half a day means an entire two weeks of earned annual!? I worked in the private sector before this where I earned more leave/pay period and a portion of maternity leave was paid. This is definitely a great start for the federal government and to encourage other employers to do that same.

you are stupid

June 27, 2008, 2:54am (report abuse)

the military already gets this luxury.....don't be dumb.

Cameron

June 27, 2008, 4:02am (report abuse)

Captain. Why don't you go shoot yourself you miserable a**hole.

Susie

July 11, 2008, 12:18am (report abuse)

I am a current federal employee who happens to be pregnant but should already have enough leave built for 4 weeks off. I am at a higher salary than I believe most fed. employees are but the benefits are definitely that great. We have fairly inexpensive health insurance but only one of the plans offered covers dental and it's only cleanings 2 times year. Our gov't needs to make a big change, and not let the minority rule the majority, not give as many handouts to lazy people who don't want to work, and actually do something about the soaring oil costs.

Dan

July 12, 2008, 8:17pm (report abuse)

Most private businesses do NOT offer this sort of benefit. Employees must save up regular PTO and use that. This is another example of how out of touch our government employees are. The taxpayer is tired of being your benefactor. If you think it is so great in the private sector then get a real job.

Christina

July 21, 2008, 8:04pm (report abuse)

I bet most of the men on here are single, and don't have kids. If they are married, or do have kids, I feel sorry for their families. I'd shoot myself if my father or husband was as arrogant as these pricks!

Sher

July 22, 2008, 7:16pm (report abuse)

Let's see, with my tax dollars I have to pay for hoochies on welfare, WIC, Medicare and FoodStamps... Oh lets not forget how my daughter could not get into Pre-K because it was geared for low income family. So when does the hardworking mom get a break?

Barack obama

July 22, 2008, 9:08pm (report abuse)

I am a muslim and I don't really care about the Citizens of this country, I worked in a terrorist training camp, and I am best friends with Osama Bin Ladin

Lily

August 4, 2008, 8:40pm (report abuse)

I agree with Sher! I would be more concerned with my tax dollars going to someone that is milking the system, rather than to a federal employee who is working for my country. Our healthcare and school systems are overburden with people that don’t even contribute to our economy. Illegal people use up a big chunk of these resources….that’s who we need to be concerned with. Not federal employees, who by the way are U.S. citizen and tax paying people.

Fargo

August 12, 2008, 1:12am (report abuse)

I agree with Captain entirely. A fed gets 13 days of sick and 13 days of vacation on day 1 and even more if employed for more than three years. This means that in 8 years as previously referenced, and employee could save up 42 weeks of leave. Isn't normal maternity leave only 6 weeks? The issue is that people in the federal government waste sick leave, and I wouldn't promote that. And federal government retirement, -the private sector should be so lucky. Have fun finding a guaranteed pension elsewhere.

Fargo

August 12, 2008, 1:27am (report abuse)

I work for the second largest department in the federal government and in addition to very adequate leave benefits, several programs exist to allow for the advance of sick or annual leave to ensure this happens. and as for expanding the leave donor program, I am firmly against. In my experience, if the people you work with directly are not willing to donate leave to you to help you through a tough time, it is probably because you are a bad employee and eveyone wants you gone anyway. Good ridance to bad employees, -everyone knows the federal government has more than its share.

Christina

August 19, 2008, 7:22pm (report abuse)

So Fargo and Captain, or let me just make it easy and say Captain Fargo. So women are supposed to wait 8 years of employment before having a child. Well, let's say these women have children already, two, like I do. Are we to assume they didn't have to take off due to any sickness their children might have endured in the past years. I've only been with the federal government for three years, was I really supposed to wait 8 years before having my third child. I had both my other children while serving in the Army.

Christina

August 19, 2008, 7:23pm (report abuse)

When I got out I ended up having to very young children while starting off with the federal government. As soon as my daughter started daycare, she caught ammonia and I had to take off a month. My son caught RSV at the daycare, and I had to take of another few weeks for him. My children went to a very nice, very well kept daycare. Unfortunately, that's what happens when children attend a daycare they get sick, it's inevitable. I've also had to take off for all their doctor's appointments they've had, and when kids are that young, they go to the doctor's regularly. And, I do recall eating at an Olive Garden for a company Christmas part which made half of the department sick and I had to take off a week for that. In-between all these there were other reasons for taking leave that were out of my control, i.e. death in the family. How in the heck was I supposed to save up 6 weeks in three years?

MamaToOne

August 20, 2008, 6:25pm (report abuse)

Seriously people?! 8 weeks of PAID leave isn't that big a deal. The government is already set to pay these women as it is (assuming no pregnancy). All this is going to do is relieve stress and financial hardship on the (most likely) underpaid federal employees. Women need time to recover and care for their newborn children.

anotherfed

September 5, 2008, 10:25pm (report abuse)

I haven't taken a vacation in two years. I have taken a day or two off attached to my weekends to visit family. I just now have 200 hours of vacation and 190 hours of sick. I have been sick a couple of times this year and have had the normal doctor appts. I am not pregnant, but would like to start a family. With that being said I will still have to keep saving to cover maternity. So, I guess everyone who is against this just believes that if you want a family then you do not deserve any vacations or sick leave for any other reason. I can only assume (because I have no other way of knowing) that the people on here that are against it are against families and children in general.

While there are many companies that do not offer maternity leave, the employees are able to pay into stated disability or some other disability insurance that provides money during the maternity period. As federal employess we get nothing besides our saved leave!

EmptyPockets

September 10, 2008, 3:28pm (report abuse)

Let me get this straight. You already have a job that pays better than most retail jobs. Your healthcare plan is one to be envied by 90% of the people I work with. In fact, most of us can only *wish* to get a federal job! We get NO unpaid leave, just our vacation and personal *hours* per year. Health insurance comes with a $5000. deductible (which realistically means NO healthcare plan). I do agree with the comments about the slackers and people milking the system. They are in my grocery lines the first week of each month and making out a helluva lot better than my family. That's still no excuse to pick my pocket for yet more money. You want to see real hard times? Get a job in the private sector. You'll run back to your desk, pension, and benefits quick enough!

>.

September 19, 2008, 6:10pm (report abuse)

So emptypockets, should we just shut up and settle. I work here because I put forth the effort to get a job here, whose to say everybody in the private sector wants a federal job anyways. And, just because there are people who want a federal job, but can't get one, doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement.

No Vote

September 25, 2008, 11:33pm (report abuse)

I didn't read all posts, but I did not see where anyone explained that government workers accrue leave every two weeks. Employees with less than five years can accrue 104 hours of sick leave in one year. They are also accruing 104 hours of annual leave (vacation) in the same year. If they do not abuse the leave, then by 30 months, they could accrue enough combined leave to use while on maternity leave for 12 weeks. A responsible government employee should plan and save their leave for emergencies. Employees do not lose their sick leave at the end of the year. It rolls over. Annual leave under 240 hours rolls over as well. I personally have had a baby while employed and used my accrued sick leave while I was out of work. It was all paid. Those employees that abuse their leave deserve what they get. Non-paid absense. Why should tax payers bail them out?

Lieutenant

September 25, 2008, 11:40pm (report abuse)

I am a federal employee and I didn't recieve any advance leave upon signing on to this job.I don't know what government agency you work for. I have taken two oaths in my life captain one to defend this country from its enemies both foreign and domestic. And to to protect and serve its citizens. I love my country and my job but i love my family more. Sorry you can't say the same. I am fortunate to have plenty of leave time to use as I want, my wife who is also a federal employee doesn't due to the long illness during her mothers passing this year which shortly after she found out she was pregnant after being told all her life she couldn't have children. No planning in the world can account for a miracle. So with that said paid leave or not me and my wife will be absent from duty in are service to our government after the birth of our child and Captain you and Fargo will have to pay for that absence in the form of overime for my replacement. God bless AMERICA!!!!

No Vote

September 25, 2008, 11:44pm (report abuse)

Make that 6 weeks of Maternity Leave. Plus, depending on the agency, a person can go in the "hole" with leave and work their way back to zero.

christina

September 26, 2008, 1:51pm (report abuse)

abuse leave? there seems to be people on here that think we don't have other people to take care of, like our other children. and yes if i have to spell it out that means having to use leave to do that.

Chris

September 26, 2008, 6:33pm (report abuse)

it is typical that the dirty old men who work for the government would not support not passing this bill. You have your fat wife at home taking care of your children and I'm sure you boss her around and think you are the top dog, just like you are giving the perception here. Have some compassion. Until you have been in a womans shoes to have a child, recover from surgery and learn how to take care of a helpless human, then SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!!!!! For the idiot who said govt employees start out with sick/vacation leave, get your facts straight, gov employees start with a fat 0. You cant say that for most private companies.

Liuetenant

September 26, 2008, 8:32pm (report abuse)

To no vote,

Please give out correct information federal employees at least were I work recieve 2 hours of sick leave every two weeks upon entering the job which at 26 weeks in calender year adds up to a whooping total of 52 hours and 4 hours of annual leave every two weeks which comes out to 104. This leave has to cover everything and in most services you can't carry over anymore than 240 hours of annual levae a year which means you either use it or loose it and it is subject to Supervisor approval which most government jobs run short staff and you get your leave denied due to manpower and staffing issuses. So there is no Giant Stack Pile from which to draw even if you are not abusing leave.

And to the person with empty pockets I don't know where you are getting your information on the health care package for federal employees but I know everytime I go to use my insurance that I pay the same premiums as everybody else does I am told "You know they don't pay very much".

LJ

September 30, 2008, 8:16pm (report abuse)

I fail to see why it is our responsibility to pay Medicaid, Welfare, Food Stamps, etc. to lazy people who are able to work not looking for jobs. The avg family makes over 25K in benefits and over 70% arent looking for a job because if they did, theyd make less. AND they have their entire day to do as they see fit. The govt (and us as taxpayers) are stuck footing the bill. So, why should we have to pay this?

Kg

October 1, 2008, 11:10am (report abuse)

Keep in mind that this bill is meant to save money and keep women employed in the federal government. It costs more to lose a new mother and have to re-train someone new than to give the new mother a decent amount of maternity leave & in return hopefully she'll be ready to return to work at the end of her 8 weeks.

vote in favor

October 2, 2008, 5:54am (report abuse)

I am totally in favor of this bill, we shovel out money to pay for crack whores to have a child a year just to raise thier benefits. They get free housing, childcare WIC, cash, free medical/dental and foodstamps. Yet hardworking mothers cannot start families because 6 weeks off is to much to ask for. I'm tired of standing in line at a store behind a food stamp whore, who had to bring an extra body along because she has two baskets full of food. When do we honest hardworking people get a break??? BTW, whoever said government benefits were so great was obviously misinformed, do some more research before you talk!

DL

October 8, 2008, 10:05am (report abuse)

My wife and I just had a child. She is so precious. But let me tell you what makes it so hard to enjoy her. My wife, during the pregnancy had to work overtime, on the weekends, and on her regular day assigned off just to build up leave to use for her pregnancy. She was placed on bed rest because she was working to hard to build up leave, meaning she had to take extra leave before the birth occurred. She ended up using all the leave and comp time accrued. They advanced her up to two years worth of leave, she is deep in the hole, and now she has to spend the next two years trying to break even. Any leave she takes is leave without pay. So the thing is, I am taking all my leave now to take my daughter to the doctors. She currently has to be out of daycare, and I already used my whopping 10 days of family sick leave/yr when she was born.(had to fight to get that off)Nobody cares. They just want you to come into work and leave your personal life outside. I am contemplating quitting now.

SP

October 17, 2008, 4:20pm (report abuse)

My neighbor has not worked one day since I've know her. She has two kids and rents the house on public assistance. I have worked evey day of my life, from the time I was a senior in high school all the way through Graduate School. Every time I see her sitting on her front steps when I get home from a hard days work, I get so angry. I have paid for this woman and her kids for the past 16 years and now that I am having a baby, I have to figure out how much leave I have saved up to use for maternity leave. I respectfully disagree with "No Vote". How do you abuse leave. If you have EARNED leave and need to take it, then use it. I have paid taxes since the age of 16 and have no regrets for it. I will gladly pay to help my fellow americans. But I think benefits should be given to all, especially when it comes to birthing and raising the generation of the future. The same people who are going to be making decisions on how your social security and medicare will be handled!

We need this

October 21, 2008, 7:22pm (report abuse)

I have been with the feds for 2 years and never took any leave not even sick leave when I needed it and now I am struggling to cover at least the miserably 3 months I need to recuperate . I can’t afford more weeks without pay or stop the payments on my health insurance. My baby is still too small to be left on a daycare and guess what ……I don’t qualify for WIC or any other help not because I earn a lot (almost no body starting in the Fed Gov. earns wonders) but because the income brackets of those programs for which I pay taxes are extremely low. Go on and check how much someone starting as a GS5 with a college degree earns and prepare for the surprise. I only choose federal employment over private because it offered a level of job stability. Now, ask yourself….even having your savings, job, and all that sh** about planning ahead, Can you go 3 months without complete income and double the expenses????

Charlie

October 26, 2008, 5:50pm (report abuse)

There is absolutely no reason for this or any of the other similar bills to pass. Why should the taxpayer pay you not to work? If you think your federal job benefits are bad come out into the private sector for a while.

To We need this - Get real. If you can't plan for the future perhaps the government should look at whether you are an effective employee and consider "allowing" you to go work somewhere else.

David Romano

November 5, 2008, 10:25pm (report abuse)

One more step toward socialism!

Christine

November 6, 2008, 5:20pm (report abuse)

Paid parental leave should be part of the benefits package needed to attract and retain talented federal employees. Do you think anyone would go into federal service if there were no benefits? And to those who would tell us feds to "get a real job in the private sector" if we don't like our federal benefits - whom do you think will leave government first and be hired on the private side? The best and brightest, of course. And whom do you think is going to be left to run your government for you after you drive all the quality employees into the private sector for lack of competitive employment benefits?? It will be the ones who can't find employment in the private sector.

It's time for the US to catch up with other first-world nations on this issue, and our goverment should be at the forefront of that effort by setting an example in how it treats its own workforce.

pregnant

November 7, 2008, 1:43am (report abuse)

Mothers and fathers alike in any job take time off for their children. A pregnant woman who must use her accrued time for family and self care is not abusing their leave. Paid maternity should be available for many reasons. One very good reason is recovery. I personally am in need of a c-section, which is major surgey, and may require surgery during my pregnancy as well for complications. Even if I had 8 years to plan this pregnancy, all its complications can not be planned for. Accruing a few hours a month that are used by medical complications run out long before birth. I pay taxes...I have no issue with my taxes paying for maternity leave for others who are in need. My taxes already pay for plans I do not qualify for, so its only fair my taxes also go towards something that will benefit me and people like me.

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November 7, 2008, 1:56am (report abuse)

Bull**it!

Charlie

November 7, 2008, 2:39am (report abuse)

"the best and brightest" in government work? What a laugh that is.

girl

November 13, 2008, 7:18pm (report abuse)

Charlie, you are an ignorant, arrogant, pig! Everyone should be benefited in one way or another. Like many other citizens, I'm tired of the crack whores and the unemployed getting all the benefits.

for girl

November 14, 2008, 5:46am (report abuse)

So which of those two categories do you put yourself. I suspect the first but with your potty mouth you probably are in both.

Jeffery

November 17, 2008, 7:11am (report abuse)

This is a great bill and everyone should encourage their respective representative to pass this bill. It amazes me that something so family oriented is being trashed. This bill would allow BOTH parents, no matter the sex, to be able to take time off and care for their child. I dont find any problem with MY tax dollars going toward that. We have so many family issues in this country and a bill comes along that is pro-family and it gets bashed and bad-mouthed. I don't feel that 4 weeks is unreasonable, and I can safely say that everyone that has commented could not afford to take even 2 weeks of unpaid leave off to care for a newborn, let alone the 12 unpaid weeks that are permissable. After the 4 weeks if they wanted to take more it would HAVE to come from accrued sick or annual leave saved up. True, there is a provision for OPM to grant an additional 4 weeks at their discretion, but from what I see it would have to be extraordinary circumstances.

Jeffery

November 17, 2008, 7:15am (report abuse)

Continuing... I also like Rep. Kenny Marchant of Texas' idea that employees be able to contribute to a fund that they would be allowed to tap for leave. When so much of our tax dollars are going to support utterly stupid and unproductive programs, studies, and such, I would like to see this country try and wake-up and see that we need to take care of our children. The statistics show that we are sorely not doing so now.

Mother-To-Be

November 19, 2008, 6:54pm (report abuse)

I am a mother-to-be with 10+ years as a senior leader with the Government. This is much needed for mothers and fathers. This leave would not be a vacation. I worked very hard and am blessed to have what I have (including the benefits). I do not feel guilty for having a good job and I could care less what ignorant, selfish, greedy people think. Part of my tax dollars (about $40K/ year) is going towards this $700B bailout for the big businesses. Why is it okay to give to big businesses but not okay to give to hard working people? Regardless, some of you only pay $5K a year in taxes. That's hardly enough to pay my salary for a week. Every little bit helps though. Thanks!!!

Charlie

November 20, 2008, 2:14pm (report abuse)

Mother-to-be,

Why are you not trying to get the benefit for everyone, not just government employees?

As I'm sure you intended, you sound like an elitist with your statements about those who earn less than you. That simply shows how little you care about your fellow citizens. All you are interested in is making sure everyone else helps fund your time off. "senior leader" my butt - What a crock of B.S.

For Mother-to-be

November 20, 2008, 4:23pm (report abuse)

You call yourself a leader? You don't have a clue what a leader is. To make statements like you have here simply shows you for what you really are - an idiot who should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.

Proud Fed

November 24, 2008, 7:19pm (report abuse)

I think the fact that private companies get disability leave and govt emps dont is ridiculous in the first place. We pay taxes, and are public servants! We run the government, the public uses it! We should be afforded the SAME disability benefits that others get as well. I am due in January and I get paid a heck of a lot less than half you private firm emps out there; we deserve to get 3 months paid leave as well!

T

November 30, 2008, 3:52pm (report abuse)

This bill is a positive for Americans. At least this would support people who are willing to work and have jobs rather than the deadbeat people that we have been supporting for many years. It is hard to think of my tax dollars going to support someone who is perfectly capable to get a job and refuses to. They receive wick and all kinds of tax breaks. Why can't the working American receive this kind of help too. Besides, a majority of the Federal employees pay more in taxes than any other employing agency. Why not try to help each other out.

For T

December 5, 2008, 12:40am (report abuse)

The reason all you government employees pay so much tax as a group is because of the bloated size of the government. And with the democratic administration coming in it will only grow. Talk about socialism - just give them all a government job.

fed employee

December 9, 2008, 11:17pm (report abuse)

The government is a business just like Ford, Nike, and McDonalds. Yes, our pay/benefits are ultimately paid for by tax-payers, but that doesnt mean that every person that contributes $1000 towards taxes gets to be so judgemental on benefits to the employees. Each business should decide whats best for their employees. This bill is in the best interest of families and it should be passed.

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