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H.R. 333, The Disabled Veterans Tax Termination Act (59 comments ↓)

  • This item is from the 110th Congress (2007-2008) and is no longer current. Comments, voting, and wiki editing have been disabled, and the cost/savings estimate has been frozen.
  • This bill, or a similar bill, was reintroduced in the current Congress as H.R. 333, The Disabled Veterans Tax Termination Act.

H.R. 333 would amend title 10, United States Code, to permit retired members of the Armed Forces who have a service-connected disability rated less than 50 percent to receive concurrent payment of both retired pay and veterans' disability compensation, it would eliminate the phase-in period for concurrent receipt, and it would extend eligibility for concurrent receipt and combat-related special compensation to chapter 61 disability retirees with less than 20 years of service.

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JB

January 19, 2007, 7:47pm (report abuse)

Why would anyone vote against this? Unless they are not a Vet or don't know anything about being in the military. It is about time we did something for our vets before they are in their graves.

WS

January 21, 2007, 2:42am (report abuse)

If we can find the billions for all the different welfare programs in this country, we can certainly find the money for this... This costs me about $ 225 per month... It's a disgrace...

Charlie Williams

January 25, 2007, 1:59am (report abuse)

This bill wpuld correct the unfairness in military and VA disability for everyone finally

Ljames

January 27, 2007, 3:56am (report abuse)

Finally. Thank you from a Desert Storm Retired Disabled Vet who has to give up my retirement pay to receive Disability Pension from the VA because they PDRL'd me after 12 years instead of letting me stay career.

jeff m

January 30, 2007, 2:59am (report abuse)

Contact your Rep. about this bill. The more they here from the public about it the better.

Bob Craven

February 6, 2007, 4:35am (report abuse)

Longevity should have no bearing on eligibility for CRSC, Chapter 61 veterans who have recieved the Purple Heart should not be excluded from the CRSC benefit. Two WIA soilders with both legs blown off, one with 20 years of service and one with 4 years of service are both WIA, length of service should not matter, its time to stop discriminating against chapter 61 veterans, the President and Congress have disgtraced this Country by excluding these veterans, additionally, chapter 61 veterans who recieved the Purple Heart should recieve benefit pay amount for CRSC as the 20 year veteran.

Jess R

February 26, 2007, 9:42pm (report abuse)

I think it is a fine bill, but I think the 2.5 percent thing is wrong. It should be that they deduct 2.5 percent from your disability DOD disability rating for each year under 20 years. In my case 60% from the Navy (17 yrs 7 mos 17 days) would be 54% of base pay from current active pay scale. Not to go below 30% for any person retired under Chapter 61.

LT K

March 1, 2007, 5:46pm (report abuse)

i was chapt 61 with 19 years 4 mos and 17 days of service... wounded in Iraq. Had i known what i know now, i would have stayed at walter reed another couple of months. the current system is unfair. I get gypped because i wanted to see my family and get on with my life as the army didn't want me any more...

i was serving a 6 year commitment and would have finished over 22 yrs had i not gotten crippled.

Mike

March 6, 2007, 11:54am (report abuse)

veterans always get shafted, we're talking about pennies, we're spending 2-3 billion a week on a war but unable to take care of veterans. and yet your future as a vet is in the hands of many who never served. we were there to defend and this is how we're treated but you can bet Congress has the best retirement policy, the best medical care and we're paying for it out of the money we almost get.

Timothy R. Stephenson, USN, Ret.

March 12, 2007, 7:12pm (report abuse)

I do not think most people understand what it means when a person; no different than anyone else, signs thier name and recites the vow to protect and defend thier country.To give thier life! It's a sacrifice! This GREAT country has renewable resources yet life is a one chance deal. What price can you give life? There are no boundries yet those who have not served set them don't they. Politicians make law.They claim to serve the public As I see it, they're self serving. Let them live on what a vet receives. What's in our conscious is worth the pittance alone. We deserve every damned cent we get; earned!The rest of the countries peoples should in turn bleed the color of green for us by giving us our needs without the bureaucratic bulls*** we get. We the people, bled Red White and Blue for you. God Bless America, God Bless us all.

Timothy R, Stephenson, USN, Ret.

March 12, 2007, 7:26pm (report abuse)

I wanted to say one thing more but I had to wittle my words down to 1000 measley characters "boundries" Anyhow. When I joined the United States Navy. I joined! I became a part of something much bigger than it's parts; I became whole. When I did this, I gave 100%..........When I was disabled. I expected the same! I suppose I raised the bar too far and expected to much. It's comforting to realize that my life is not worth but the 40% I now receive. I put the paper in to get it raised but they shot it down. I'll have to keep trying wont I; least till I'm dead and off the beggers list. All vets deserve 100% Life is life. We could live a long one or die, be killed in a moment within.

Jerri Dementer

March 13, 2007, 8:37pm (report abuse)

My husband is PO2 Alan Dementer. He has served in the military for over 16 years.

He was wounded over in Iraq in 2003 while saving the lives of other military members. He was given the Purple Heart for his injures and the Bronze Star for his bravery. Then he was forced out of the military because he was no longer deployable.

Today we were given another slap in the face. We have discovered that Alan is one of many military members who will be denied their military retirement because they could not stay in for 20 years. When a military member is injured in a war and then denied what should be rightfully theirs I think that it reflects on how little this country appreciates what our military goes through. We were not prepared for him to retire and we were not expecting to lose his pay. He was forced out of the military he did not choose this.

Bernard J. Junge

March 15, 2007, 10:59pm (report abuse)

I've Paid over 94000 dollars to date for my military disabilities. Lets get it done before I die.

ROBERT

March 20, 2007, 2:17am (report abuse)

ALL CHAPTER 61 VETS ,CONTACT YOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS NOW TO GET HR333 INACTED INTO LAW.IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO,DONT COMPLAIN?

Les Thompson

March 26, 2007, 1:28pm (report abuse)

Considering that military retirees executed their part of an agreement with the government and made a career out of serving their country they MUST be paid in full the retirement that government agreed to.

Then considering that a person has a service connected disability and is therefore entitled to disability pay is a completely separate issue. The individual did his or her part in both areas and are absolutely entitled to both payments without ANY encumbrances. A deal is a deal. A contract is a contract.

End of Story.

Disabled Navy in texas

March 26, 2007, 9:43pm (report abuse)

I was "retired" from the navy following 13 years of service and given a lump sum severence...I am currently PYING back that severence by not receiving my disability payments from the VA (30%) How would this bill effect me?

Texas again

March 26, 2007, 9:43pm (report abuse)

How can I find out my outstanding balance and what va Disability payment would currently be?

Richard

April 1, 2007, 1:02am (report abuse)

What is the difference between this bill and HR 89? I had 17 & one half years active and could not continue because of totally disableing injuries sustained during a peacetime training exercise. Thanks in advance to all lawmakers that will sign & support the bill. Especially Senator Harry Reid (D)Senate Majority Leader from Nevada. Too many Disabled Veterans and their families, have been deserving of this benefit for too long. rhard47@sbcglobal.net

Army Vet

April 6, 2007, 1:09pm (report abuse)

Hurry up and wait boys.

Disabled since 88.

Still waiting.

Navy vet now in Iraq

April 21, 2007, 1:28pm (report abuse)

Let's get this one voted in by some people who understand what it's like to serve!

Gary D. Robinson SFC(RET)

April 28, 2007, 2:26pm (report abuse)

I was retired with 40% and had over 17yrs AD. this bill should have been passed decades ago. It is not our fault that we were injured and could not finish our 20years in so we should not be penalized for it. We need this money so we can provide a quality of life for our families. Most of us are unabled to work and cannot supplement our disability payments. I urge everyone whether they are veterans or not to please ask your representatives to pass this bill.

A-Rob

May 2, 2007, 3:50pm (report abuse)

I am a 16yo and my Dad is a disabled vet who had over 17yrs in Active Duty and 4 yrs in the TDRL. He was always doing things like coaching my soccer, baseball and football teams as well as running marathons and was very athletic until his injury forced him to be medically retired. He initially was awarded 20% by the MEB but he appealed and got 40%, went to the VA and they awarded him 100%. He joined the Army at 17 and was 39 when retired. I cannot believe that someone who spends almost half his life in the service and lost his mobility for the rest of his life is not compensated for it. I urge all who see this to contact your city, state and federal reps to make sure this bill passes and becomes a law. they were there when we needed them so lets make sure we are there no for them

Gary D. Robinson SFC(RET)

May 2, 2007, 4:17pm (report abuse)

I also believe that this bill should be made retro active to the date that the concurrent receipt bill that was passed became official.

Mike (MMC USN RET)

May 4, 2007, 5:33am (report abuse)

NAVY DISABLED IN TEXAS, I am sure if you go to "disabledvet.com" you should be able to find the information you are looking for. It is called Glen's homepage for disabled vets, don't let the dogs on the opening screen fool you, he has a lot of good information and links on his site. Good luck.

Steve H. USMC-ret

May 4, 2007, 5:28pm (report abuse)

This title 10 law is over 100 years old. It is a travesty that it is law. The Govt. thinks that if they pay you retired pay, it is paying you two disability payments, VA and Ret. pay. I was med. retired in 1972 after stepping on a land mine in Vietnam. I lost a foot and other medical injuries. In the last ten years I've had 15 surgeries because of my injuries. I'm 100%plus VA. Their is HR333,HR89, HR303,HR243,HR1436,S439,S558 all in this congress. All addressing Chapter 61. One of these has to pass. HR303 has most support. I've been waiting 35 yrs. Pound your Reps and Senators. I like HR243 or HR333 personally. Semper Fi.

wayne

June 9, 2007, 4:09pm (report abuse)

i am a 22 year vet 2 tours nam one of iraq and even croatia now fighting congress for my 20 percent will it ever end?

JIM

July 27, 2007, 10:07pm (report abuse)

DISABLED VIETNAM VIET,When I was laying in my bed at Walter Reed i was told that i was going to be medically retired from the army. At the same time they said i would receive the same benefits as a retired soldier with 20 yrs.or more service. My disabilities are right leg AK amputation,left leg stiff at the knee and in the last 10 yrs i now have heart disease,type2 diabetes and Hep.C virus.I would like to see HR333 pass or any of these other bills that will help the vets.

Aaron

August 28, 2007, 11:32pm (report abuse)

This is Sooo unfair to veterans everywhere.

WayneJ

September 17, 2007, 9:35pm (report abuse)

I was PDRL'd 40%(Chpt 61) in July 1990. This came after fighting for my retirement, over a one time lum sum severence. The disability was for HNP Lower Back. They refused surgery while on AD, but 9 months later operated and made life bearable. I had 18years, 11 months, 29 days total service. Under the standards they have today I could have stayed on AD and retired as planned. I am now 70% service connected and don't draw much of my retirement, because I draw VA Disability. I am pending IU and if I receive it, I will not draw any of the retirement I served all those years for. Still I will draw more than I am making now. But what good is it since I am not able to enjoy the things in life I should be able to at 55, because I gave my best years to the military to support and defend. I WRITE MY CONGRESSMEN EVERY WEEK AND LET THEM HEAR MY CALL FOR THEIR SUPPORT. WE NEED MORE OF YOU TO DO THE SAME. (Remember the squeaky wheel will get the grease.)

Keith

October 16, 2007, 8:16am (report abuse)

TDRL in 1980 at 30% PDRL at 80% in 1985 as E4 100% VA since 1980 never seen a dime of retirement wasnt wounded in combat 51 weeks active duty made E4 up for O3 became disabled

keith (again)

October 16, 2007, 8:40am (report abuse)

no job no insurance no retirement since NAVY,this bill wont give me My RETIREMENT which navy says is mine either not a vet by most vets orgs either

Jared

October 16, 2007, 9:02am (report abuse)

I say if the DOD says you deserve retirement, you should get it period, no offset for anything They already took into account both your time in service and your disability AND HOW YOU BECAME DISABLED when they gave you retirement status Why should you now get a penalty for becoming disabled. If thats the case why even waste the time just kick you out with nothing OH SORRY THATS WHAT THEYVE BEEN DOING TO ALL OF YOU FOR A LONG TIME

Stan Oliphant

November 1, 2007, 7:22am (report abuse)

We need every veteran to stand up for this bill. We as veterans must stand together, for it seems we are the only people that cares about us.

I am a Texas veteran I am requesting that the Texas veterans association form a contact phone hotline and e-mail directory so we can commicate with each other about this very important bill for all veterans. The congressman for my district is Louie Gohnert. This should also be a issue for any cancidate running for president. I have observed the debates from both the Democrates and the Rebulicans however; this question never comes up. We need to send letters to ABC News, CNN News, Fox News, CBS News, and any other news company let our voices be heard. If a canididate will stand for the veterans than we should not vote for them.

My email is Soliphant7@windstream.net

Jerry

November 8, 2007, 10:34pm (report abuse)

I like so many other Vet's are sick and tired of getting a crumb tossed to us and then making us feel like it was favor. It's time these politicians understand we will no longer tolerate this kind of behavior towards us Vet's. We need to stand together bombard your state representatives and let them know that we will NOT go quietly and we will use our voice in the form of the vote to relieve these high paid politician's of duty when the time comes. I'm sure they really don't care anyway. They can collect a very nice pention after there 4 year tearm and go on there speaking tours to make some extra money. AWWWWW my heart bleeds for them.

Keith US, Army SFC (RET)

December 7, 2007, 11:09pm (report abuse)

I, a disabled vet like so many others, feel that this bill should pass. My father, father-n-law, and I, have served this great country for 20 years plus each in the U.S. Army and all came out disabled. It is truley a shame that many others do not support this bill, though it may not be alot of money for some, it may be all that they after defending others.

28yrs chapter 61

December 16, 2007, 1:07pm (report abuse)

100%disabled vet. been (RETIRED)28yrs. VA Comp is equal to the Nat poverty level. Try to raise a family on that. I never had a chance to be a career Marine.

Ed USMC-RET

December 23, 2007, 3:57am (report abuse)

At 16yrs and 9 months I enlisted for 4yrs active 2yrs reserve thinking career at that time. Four days after turning 17 I was in boot camp, at 18 I was on hill A1 north of Quang Tri and wounded while on combat patrol. At18 and 6 months I was medicaly retired form Philadelphia Naval Hospital with so called full retirement benefits at 30%. The VA rated me at 100% from the day of retirement,CRSC would be a welcome benefit and I for one strongly beleive earned by 20yr and chapter 61 retirees.

Brittaniya - Spouse of Ret Army

December 26, 2007, 3:02am (report abuse)

My husband was injured and medically retired due to medical malpractice by an Air Force doctor after returning from Iraq. He was planning on going Special Forces in the fall and finish out his 20+ years in the service.

Then we find out we can't sue for medical malpractice because of the Feres Doctrine.

Then we find out he doesn't get his retired pay and his VA....Like we were told he would be paid like a 20 year vet.

So now we get our 80% plus unemployability from VA but nothing else. My husband lost complete use of his arm, has severe PTSD and will probably never be able to go back to work.

PLEASE....PLEASE...do everything you can to get this bill or one like it passed!!!!!! My husband...our family...and all medically retired veterans deserve this....no matter if they served 6 months or 30 years...if they fought for this country and lost pieces of themselves because of it...they deserve to be paid their worth!!!!!!!!!!

Ed-USMC

February 6, 2008, 2:15pm (report abuse)

2008 NDAA is law and CRSC is extended to Capter 61 retirees with less than twenty years of service. Congratulations to my fellow Chapter 61 retirees, now lets help out our fellow retirees with CRDP for those not combat related with less than twenty.

Chief Mac-USN Aviation

February 7, 2008, 10:27pm (report abuse)

Keep fighting the good fight! Don't forget to email the White House also! If it's still not passed when John McCain is elected, don't forget to email him, too!

Andrew

February 12, 2008, 4:12am (report abuse)

Desert Storm Vet, 2 years active duty. Never had a chance at a career. Nearly killed in the line of duty May 29 1992. 100% from the VA. I, we deserve crsc.

Bill Retired USAF

February 12, 2008, 11:02am (report abuse)

Look at it this way, where in the commercial society do you see anyone paying for their disabilities? NO Where! I earned that retirement and if I was injured by the service then the VA should pay me for it! Seperate from ym retired pay.

Merc

February 12, 2008, 10:14pm (report abuse)

Are we all STANDING UP FOR THIS TO PASS!!

Man we really gotta push this hard.

18 years -11 months -100% P/T IU... Two daughters to support - This is killing me.

Thanks

Craig Mayberry USN(RET.)

February 20, 2008, 9:30pm (report abuse)

This is the same thing as a disability payment anywhere. If you are injured on the job we don't just kick you to the curb. People who put their lives on the line for others should be compensated as medical retirees as well as with disability payments. There should also be a floor of $35000.00 in oder for them to be able to live at a minimally comfortable level in the richest nation on God's green earth.

Merc

February 28, 2008, 9:13pm (report abuse)

VERY WELL SAID MR. Craig Mayberry.

Thank you!

Merc

Ken

March 6, 2008, 11:43pm (report abuse)

I feel that all 100 percent disabled combat related veterans should received both their disability payment and their retire pay too.

KEN

March 6, 2008, 11:47pm (report abuse)

I feel that all 100 percent disabled combat related veterans should received both their disability payment and their retire pay too.

Jay

March 7, 2008, 12:36pm (report abuse)

Like many of you I am frustrated with the sub standard care forced upon us through the VA. I can only hope our politicians would watse the remaing time of thier lives begging for compensation for service to our Country. I would love to give my lousy 40% tax break on my retirement back to the VA stuffed sidways where the sun dont shine just to have a chance to finish my life wishing I could just be healty. I am ashamed to say I am a disabled American Vet. The system that was created is more than unfair, it has taken away my pride in stating I retired from the most powerful Military on our planet.

John

June 12, 2008, 9:29pm (report abuse)

Where are they at with H.R. 333? and from what you have read what are the chances of it passing?

Eric

July 19, 2008, 3:56pm (report abuse)

A firm hand shake to all the Vet's out there. I am in the same situation with 3 back surgeries in 1yr. I am going to do my best to push for this to pass. This is not only right but you have already earned and payed for these benefits. Keep up the good fight!

Pete AMS3 US Navy Retired

July 21, 2008, 9:15pm (report abuse)

I have been disabled since 1975 in a non combat related injury. I have given up my Navy retired pay to draw the Va disability compensation for 100% disability rating. I am no drawing Social Security Disability because I can no longer work in my new work field. I am still waiting to be able to draw my Navy retired pay that my disability serving my country entitled me to. Chapter 61 disabled veteran for over 33 years.

Broken Heart Marine

August 3, 2008, 9:52am (report abuse)

After 13 years of service and a tour in Iraq I had open heart surgery and was plced on TDRL with a rating of 30%. I have been fighting Headquaters Marine Corp since 2005 to keep that. If I am not world wide deployable how can they say I am a 0% rating. All I want is to be retired from an Organization that I devoted my life to from 1992 to 2005. I feel I deserve to be retired. I have a family of 4 and am doing everything in my power to provide for them. We all need to put the preassure on congress to pass this bill.

Nick

August 6, 2008, 2:50pm (report abuse)

Where are they at with H.R. 333? and from what you have read what are the chances of it passing?

Retired?

August 18, 2008, 1:14pm (report abuse)

Retired 14 years,TDRL 5 years, Army decided !00% service connected. Had head injury from rough terrain in combat vehicle.!985 was date of injury, have to prove how injury happened for CRSC. Brain injuries are not recognizable right away. They call this TBI today!Never see any retirement pay!

PVA Chris

September 4, 2008, 10:39pm (report abuse)

I support allowing all disabled whether during peacetime or Combat. The timing of when you are disabled doesn't make you any more and definitely not less than anyone else. I was disabled on active duty while awaiting to go back full time on Active Duty. I have twelve years combined service of activ and reserve. unemployability should be consiidered if allowing all those disabled is not considered. I am rated 100% Permanent by the VA. I have been rated 100% during my entire disability. I have been enlisted, an NCO for eight years and a commissioned officer at the time I was disabled

James

September 16, 2008, 2:33am (report abuse)

I'm a 100 percent disabled vet. After 7 years of begging I finally received a surgery on my spine that has changed my life for the best. I had migraines almost daily, and guaranteed if I did any physical activity. I won't even get into the pain. VA doctors insisted for 7 years surgery on my damaged spine would do no good. Two days after a civilian they outsourced me to fixed me(after years of red tape and pleading), I felt better than I had since my injury. Its been three months and I feel like I could serve again if the Army would let me. I'm thankful the VA finally took care of me... but I can't understand why it took so long.

Henry P. Cambareri

September 29, 2008, 11:23am (report abuse)

I don't understand why two different issues are being lumped together, penalizing the veteran. #1. Retired pay is earned for longevitiy of service in the armed forces and is payed to the vet for completing 20 years of service.

#2. Disability Compensation is awarded to a veterean for a service connected disability incurred while in the service of his/her country.

In my minde these are two sepearate and distinctly different circumstances and should be treated as such.

jim

September 30, 2008, 1:02am (report abuse)

it all comes down to dollars and cents

Brian

October 15, 2008, 7:16pm (report abuse)

Nearly 2 years and still in committe. And they claim they support it, who they kidding.

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