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H.R. 1930, The Securing Knowledge, Innovation, and Leadership Act of 2007 (42 comments ↓)

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H.R. 1930 would amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to increase competitiveness in the United States.

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melyn

May 11, 2007, 12:53pm (report abuse)

the US congress should increase h1b visa this year. a lot of US employers sufferred from the lottery.

Matt M

April 21, 2008, 10:55am (report abuse)

A lot of US employers need to start hiring and training US workers. US companies suffer because they forgot they were US companies.

Jackson

April 21, 2008, 10:59am (report abuse)

Competitive with what? Countries where workers make 1/5 to 1/10 less than the USA? It is impossible to be competitive with economies that have significantly lower wage and living costs.

We should stop importing and educating foreign people. Instead, invest in and train AMERICANS! I would like to see the whole H1B program eliminated.

Mark D.

April 21, 2008, 12:14pm (report abuse)

I know Silicon Valley is not going to change its location...however its innovativeness and inventions might be overtaken by some new place other than Silicon Valley. The thing is the US need to take the best one...not based on lottery.

Jeff

April 21, 2008, 12:47pm (report abuse)

Time to life the cap, lawmakers. Pass this thing today!

Brian

April 21, 2008, 1:14pm (report abuse)

Pass this thing immediately. I'm seeing too much talent returning home every year, just because of these limits. This bill is absolutely critical to USA competitiveness, and the quotas are a major strategic liability for us. Stop the brain drain now.

Jeff B

April 21, 2008, 1:37pm (report abuse)

We must dramatically increase the H1-B cap. We must also make it easier for foreign-born highly skilled workers to start their own companies in the U.S. I am not afraid of an immigrant taking my job. I'm afraid of not being able to find a job because the next Google is in Europe instead of America. They're already here. They want to stay and help build companies. But they can't. So they'll do it somewhere else and the federal government will lose out on all of that tax revenue. I'm sure Europe, China, India and Canada will love it.

Mike

April 21, 2008, 1:48pm (report abuse)

The H1-B visa program should be eliminated. Look at the number of people who are not H1-B visa holders who have been hired by Microsoft and the other big Silicon Valley companies. The numbers are quite small. The excuse that local talent can not be found is false. The fact that local talent won't work for peanuts is the whole reason for the request to lift the visa quota. These companies are selling out America to maximize their bottom lines by not hiring Americans. Do some research and you will see that the whole H1-B visa system is a scam.

Steve J.

April 21, 2008, 1:54pm (report abuse)

I believe that US companies should pay higher prices for IT workers. No more H1-Bs. IT can be difficult work. For example, I pay my lawyer $250/hr to do simple tasks. Why can't difficult IT jobs also pay similar wages. Higher wages will incentivize "retired" workers to come back into the profession and fill our schools again. Also, if companies cannot afford those wages, their business models are probably poor to begin with.

Mike

April 21, 2008, 2:17pm (report abuse)

Because of the reduction in H1B visa's we had to leave the United States and build MindValley, our Internet startup in another country. Both founders lived in the US for 10 years but since we are German and Malaysian we had to pack up our bags and go.

Don't worry, MindValley is thriving but the US won't if they don't succeed in winning the war on talent.

weaver

April 21, 2008, 3:22pm (report abuse)

The aggregate NCES education and BLS employment figures do not support a shortage in skilled personnel. Prior to 2000, American degree production for citizens/permanent residents and employment growth for college grads were relative.

The delta between college degrees and American colleges degreed employment was a shortfall 2,061,405 jobs in 2006. Meanwhile, 1,558,272 initial and continuing employment approval were granted to H-1B non-immigrants 2000-2005.

The BLS Unemployment level of College Graduates went from a low of 559,000 in 2001, to an all time high of 1,221,000 in 2004.

The total of temporay resident postgraduates from American colleges in 2005, was 90,944 — well under the 120,120 visa EB green card program.

The H-1B visa should be renamed to the H-1BondedServitude visa.

me

April 21, 2008, 3:32pm (report abuse)

At the very least, the Fed should make it easy for graduates of US schools to stay and work in country. The taxpayers paid for their education in grad school, so this country should profit from their skills.

AJ Arora

April 21, 2008, 3:54pm (report abuse)

This needs passed ASAP, with another increase soon. It is foolish to think that this somehow hurts our citizens who have every opportunity in the world to succeed.

Any foreign person skilled enough to be desired by top US companies, and wants to educate his children and pay a ton of taxes to America is just as American than the guy with opportunities throughout his life that couldn't cut it.

Michael L.

April 21, 2008, 4:00pm (report abuse)

Our strength is our people, and we have attracted the world's best and brighest for a long time. To turn them away for misguided political ends is to bite the hand that feeds us. Lift the cap!

Kishore Dandu

April 21, 2008, 4:26pm (report abuse)

How about separating the visa for students who graduate from US from the regular H1B. The students category need to be unlimited.

The other category of H1B may need to be increased by about 50% and capped there for another 5 years.

JB

April 21, 2008, 5:04pm (report abuse)

I agree with this bill. As a US citizen working and living in Switzerland I have seen many highly skilled US educated foreigners trying to work in the US with no avail. After world war 2, many US industries were jump started and/or greatly improved by either hiring European and Asian scientist or by acquiring their research. The US must leverage it ability to attract top talent by providing these people with jobs in our country. Of course their will always be abuse of such things but we cannot forget that one key US strength has been our ability to attract a wide variety of highly skilled talent in many industries. Coupled with our vast wealth, there is no reason that the US should not be able to maintain is technological lead for the foreseeable future. However, shutting skilled foreigners out is defiantly counter productive.

Tom K

April 21, 2008, 5:10pm (report abuse)

We need it desperately. It's better late than never. To curb abuse, govt should increase the master's quota cap.

Kate

April 21, 2008, 6:21pm (report abuse)

I come from Europe and I am graduating right now with an MBA degree with a US top bussiness school. I got 3 job offers in the US and Europe, including my home country. The European offers were higher than US ones. The offered salary is at least double of US average. I wanted to contribute to US economy and I don't need to do it for money. Now my future depends on LOTTERY.

Carlo

April 21, 2008, 7:24pm (report abuse)

I disagree with this bill. As a US citizen working and living in America I have seen many highly skilled US educated Americans trying to work in the US with no avail. The US must leverage it ability to attract top talent by providing our students with jobs in this country. Of course their will always be abuse of such things but we cannot forget that one key to US strength has been our ability to attract a wide variety of highly skilled talent in many industries in our country. Coupled with our vast wealth, there is no reason that the US should not be able to maintain is technological lead for the foreseeable future. However, shutting skilled Americans out is defiantly countered productive.

JAG

April 21, 2008, 7:37pm (report abuse)

I strongly urge that the US take firm decision on this issue as foreign students bring in a lot of investments in the form of fees to universities and then they form their base in the US based on their interests, but if US continues the trend then the only beneficiaries would be competitors like Canada, UK, France, Germany Etc.. How can the students trust the system after they get a negative feedback from their peers? I think it is a cycle and the US has to understand how to treat this complicate situation. I have graduated in 2006 and USCIS had considered my application in the general quota by mistake and this year my fate is unknown. How is it possible for a country like the US to treat us like this for abiding the laws and regulations?

JAG

April 21, 2008, 7:46pm (report abuse)

I believe that US has to start educating Americans to fulfill their needs unlike blaming immigrants for the faults of the system and unemployment. Why is the primary and secondary education system not proving sufficient graduates in STEM degrees? For every H1B worker hired US companies bring in 4 more American worked to support. What if countries like China and Russia attract these highly skilled foreign graduates from US universities? I believe that US is going to be the world's super power as long as it is a super power in science and technology. If this is what US wants then this is where the current congress's immigration policies are heading.

David

April 21, 2008, 8:12pm (report abuse)

This is nothing more than a way to depress wages

Russ

April 21, 2008, 9:04pm (report abuse)

I graduated in CS from Stanford in 2006, and it was incredibly frustrating to see so many of my talented foreign classmates have to return home after graduation as they could not obtain visas to stay. This is definitely our loss as a country. I have seen this same problem at my company as we have been unable to hire a number of people due to visa issues. It is difficult enough to find talented people.

eyken

April 21, 2008, 9:52pm (report abuse)

The passage of this bill is extremely important to the future of Silicon Valley, one of the most vital assets the United States has today and will have in the future.

Jackson

April 21, 2008, 10:57pm (report abuse)

Had another thought.

If these foreign workers are so necessary and so smart (compared to us dumb American's), then businesses should pay them more.

How about anyone coming in under the H1-B must be paid 2X the highest tech wage in the company?

I'll bet you'd then see the H1-B program die on its own shortly. Why? Because it will then be cheaper to train American's adequately.

Joe

April 21, 2008, 11:10pm (report abuse)

The US economy creates a net of 2,000 additional jobs a day on average. (Gross figures would be much higher) Why do we blame the H1B cap for the loss of jobs in the economy?

Jay

April 22, 2008, 12:09am (report abuse)

Anyone who believes that "American workers" can do all the innovation is an idiot. There is no monopoly on innovation or on talent. Look at your high school class. No matter how much you train the bottom 90%, they will never perform as well as the top 1% of people in India, China, Eastern Europe, etc. America has a unique window to bring these brilliant people into our economy - where they can start the next new great companies, and employ hundreds of thousands of Americans in high paying, white collar jobs. Small-mindedness is holding this country back, and will result in suffering for our grandchildren.

Truth-Teller

April 22, 2008, 3:37am (report abuse)

I wonder how many people (like "Jay", eyken, JAG, Tom K, melin, etc.) supporting this legislation are Americans, and who actually work in this industry. Answer? Zero.

The myth that foreigners are some how "smarter" than Americans is a load of crap.

There are 500,000 unemployed engineers and programmers in this country. The number one reason is legislation like this which uses my taxpayer money to depress wages so sleazy US corporations like Microsoft and Intel can have a better bottom line. Disgusting.

mike

April 22, 2008, 3:41am (report abuse)

great idea - the economy is failing, tech will bring it back..has to

p.s.this is the worst captcha i've ever experienced

kevin

April 22, 2008, 6:06am (report abuse)

I've seen companies use H1-B employees as indentured servants: underpaid, overworked and threatened with deportation if they ask for too much money. It also depresses US citizen's salaries. Increasing the cap is good for US corporations and bad for US workers.

Paul

April 22, 2008, 8:14am (report abuse)

Our current and future success will rest on our ability to identify and utilize top quality talent and ideas. If that talent comes from abroad, bring them in and make them part of the system. We've always respected and, as a society, benefited from hard work, and this is no different.

chris

April 22, 2008, 3:19pm (report abuse)

I think it is important to distinguish people educated in this country and educated outside. All the innovations people talk about come are driven by people educated in this country may be foreign or native born. In this scenario, they should give first preference to people educated here in H1-B VISA than educated abroad and come here to work and lower our Salaries.

pradeep

April 22, 2008, 5:00pm (report abuse)

International student should approach all university head and request them to pass resolution that the university admissions will be affected next year. Because graduate from american universities are equal to student from any small ill equipped college.Then what is the use of taking edu in america.

andy

April 22, 2008, 9:59pm (report abuse)

weaver

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The total of temporay resident postgraduates from American colleges in 2005, was 90,944 — well under the 120,120 visa EB green card program.

The H-1B visa should be renamed to the H-1BondedServitude visa."

90400- Graduates are just graduates

120,120 - EB green card ...includes

Graduates , their families , and other workers and their families who are not Graduates from American Universities.

Psr

April 25, 2008, 3:57am (report abuse)

The below question was posted on a forum for people waiting to hear about their H1 Applications. I dont have any proof of its authenticity but it is shocking. People are abusing the H-1B Visa.They embarass the entire Indian Community.Something should be done to stop this.I wish I knew who to approach.

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Hi, me and my wife applied to h1 through 5 consultants. only 3 of my were selected and 4 for my wife. is this ok or do we have to get all applications selected to get visa? my is pregnant from last 2 months so we dont want to come to us this year can we come nex year? if we dont use visa does it can be transferred to my sister ? please help if you know

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Jennifer Tai

June 5, 2008, 3:01am (report abuse)

What I don't understand is how these employees which are allegedly paid so little when they can manage to survive in cities like Redmond and San Jose. Something doesn't add up here.

I don't agree that the number of visas should be increased yearly. The number of visas is not even the problem - it's the due diligence.

Companies or "body shops" are not being vetted, there is no strict accountability process through which DHS or USCIS or some other arm I don't know which, can run checks on whether or not each job advertised has gone through at least 10 or 20 Americans before they hire a foreigner, or if the wage being paid IS the prevailing wage (the foreign worker can check and complain and NOT be threatened with a lawsuit or worse, getting fired).

If we can tighten these areas up, I don't think a limit even needs to be imposed. Decreasing/increasing visa limits is just drugging up a tumor that is growing more malignant by the year.

Nicholas

July 30, 2008, 3:26am (report abuse)

I am at MIT and have a PhD in computer science. I have been in US for 7 years, and will be forced to take the LOTTERY if I want to stay in US. Current immigration situation is a disaster for the best and brightest foreigners. I am so fed up with the current system that I have to say the following: I warn all highly skilled foreigners who consider studying in the US that the perception of US as a "country that welcomes talent where everybody can succeed" is misleading. This was true in the past, but it is no longer true. If you decide to study in US, expect that you will have to leave after you graduate. Unless you win a Nobel prize, your hard and good quality work at your US university won't help you a single bit with immigration. Your life will likely be better if you look for opportunities at home. Enjoy your own culture. Leave the job of improving and maintaining US economy to the Americans. According to several Americans on this website, this is how they want things anyway.

Mr. Incredible

August 21, 2008, 4:39pm (report abuse)

Corrupt congressmen like Doug Lamborn support this bill even though there are 500,000 unemployed Americans in this field.

dotnot

August 22, 2008, 4:33am (report abuse)

Obviously foreign workers hit this site and vote for this bill. How ridiculous.

vv

September 7, 2008, 7:22pm (report abuse)

if u dont wana increase quata then why you open school for international student, you make money from him and now they wana earn something from u, you say no.

i think you can not stop anything, if you dont increase h1b company move from here, so may be in few year only documentation is done here. you can not stop outsourcing because you cannot stop internet. you make money from other country now somebody wana make from u then white people crying think about small country. h1 people get job because they are eligible. right now in your school in the master course only 5% from us

dot not

September 10, 2008, 12:46pm (report abuse)

vv,

You are obviously an ignorant and racist foreign worker. Who said I was "white"? We "white people" have nothing against you, it is our corrupt government who uses our tax money to subsidize outsourcing for multi-national corporations. Just like your government is corrupt, so is ours. If corps want to outsource, that is their business. But we do not support our government using our tax money to help them do it and then deny us work or drastically lower our wages as a result. That is the truth of this (and other similar) legislation.

KickThem Out

October 15, 2008, 4:07am (report abuse)

It took only two short sentences on page 4 in the bureaus six-page Economic News Release to spell out what most IT people may have already realized: IT jobs are getting harder to come by. "Employment in the information industry declined by 13,000 in July and by 44,000 over the past 12 months.

Why are they here lobbists?

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