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H.R. 4411, The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2005 (37 comments ↓)

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  • This item is from the 109th Congress (2005-2006) and is no longer current. Comments, voting, and wiki editing have been disabled, and the cost/savings estimate has been frozen.

H.R. 4411 would prohibit businesses from accepting credit cards, checks, or other bank instruments from gamblers who illegally bet over the Internet. It also would direct the Department of the Treasury and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (the Federal Reserve) to issue regulations outlining policies and procedures that could be used by financial institutions to identify and block gambling-related transactions that are transmitted through their payment systems. Compliance with those prohibitions and regulations would be enforced by various federal agencies as well as state governments, and violations would be subject to new civil remedies and criminal penalties. Finally, the bill would require the Secretary of the Treasury to report annually to the Congress on any international deliberations regarding Internet gambling.

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AMERICAN

July 13, 2006, 4:05am (report abuse)

We are becoming communist

Poker Pro

July 13, 2006, 8:26am (report abuse)

This is a violation of our rights. Call your senate rep and tell not to suppirt this bill. It goes way beyond just gambling online. They will have access to track everywhere you go on the net and ban you from where you can go!!!!!

antimad

July 16, 2006, 4:49pm (report abuse)

all the above comments are right and who saids you cant use your own money to do what you want, first its smoking then the outragous gas prices..they are nothing but ripoff.

Concerned

August 7, 2006, 2:17pm (report abuse)

With all the problems in America our government in focused on banning internet gambling instead of focusing on reducing the deficit, securing our borders, fixing Social Security and helping our own people. Wake up America! It's time to tell our government what WE THE PEOPLE want!

perkiset

August 7, 2006, 3:26pm (report abuse)

Next it will be "Where are your papers?" when crossing a state border. Thank you, neocons for assisting with the largest progressive elimination of our liberties since prohibition. Where are old-fashioned Republicans when you need the - smaller and less powerful federal government... remember?

ridiculous.

August 7, 2006, 8:19pm (report abuse)

I think the government has better things to worry about, don't you?

caveatBettor

August 10, 2006, 12:32pm (report abuse)

Gary Becker has a great discussion of the fallacies of this bill, here http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/archives/2006/08/on_internet_gam.html

As a general comment, have you considered median household taxes paid, in assigning costs per legislation? For instance, in 2002, median household taxes paid was $6,600 on median income of $42,400. Avearge household taxes piad in 2002 were $13,500, so you can multiply your gross per capita dollar impacts by a factor of 49% to arrive at median dollar impacts; i.e. the dollar impacts are about half of your current estimates, when adjusting for median tax contribution.

Here is a link to that information http://www.census.gov/hhes/income/histinc/rdi1.html

Nike

September 2, 2006, 1:03pm (report abuse)

Cool Site !

Nanny-state

September 6, 2006, 3:54pm (report abuse)

What is this bill protecting us from? We can already gamble legally through the internet on horse racing and the state lottery. We can already gamble in casinos. The real reason behind this bill is to protect the vested interest of those industries that until the advent of the internet held a monopoly. They can see their profits slipping and they don’t like it. The American public should have the right to spend their hard earned dollar as they please and not be controlled by such nanny-state policies.

Poker Player

September 13, 2006, 2:23pm (report abuse)

Senators, its time to listen to the people who elected you, albeit indirectly, and vote against this bill. You can see 83% of people oppose this bill. Prohibition doesn't work. you just end up driving the people underground. Try to regulate it more but do not try to abolish it.

right to gamble

September 13, 2006, 7:55pm (report abuse)

I feel like the U.S government wants to take away peoples right to gamble online because they are afraid someone might be getting some money that they are not. If they are so worried, they should allow the United States to have thier own online casinos based in the United States. Then most everyone who gambles online from the United States would switch to United States based online casinos and maybe the government would be happy then as well as the online gamblers from the United States. People who want to gamble is going to gamble because it is something that they enjoy doing, If they can't gamble in one place they will find another place to gamble. States that don't have casinos, their residents just travel to another state that has casinos, if they can't play the lottery in thier state, they go to another state to buy lottery tickets, and the states that has casinos and lotteries are making money off of residents that the states that don't have casinos and lotteries are'nt. I feel like the American people have a right to spend thier money on whatever form of entertainment that they wish. After all they worked for it and earned it not the government.

United States Should Have Thier Own Online Casinos.

September 13, 2006, 8:07pm (report abuse)

How about it U.S government. Why don't you allow the United States to have thier own online casinos in The United States, then you would'nt have to worry so much about online casinos outside of our borders getting American Money.

Gambling Americans would be Happy, You would be Happy because then you could do what your really good at taxes,taxes,taxes

People are going to gamble whatever way they can, so why fight millions of gamblers and just let them gamble?

Rob

September 13, 2006, 9:42pm (report abuse)

I thought that our leaders were ELECTED to represent what the majority of the American people think and want for themselves.Every poll I have seen indicates that the majority would allow internet gambling.Our leaders tend to think they were ELECTED to DICTATE what we should do and to POLICE our private lives.Today we are living with TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION and moving towards a TOTALITARIAN SYSTEM of CONTROL.

Webzcas

September 16, 2006, 12:19pm (report abuse)

Regulation, not prohibition is required.

fortunate click

September 18, 2006, 7:30pm (report abuse)

Rep. Shelley Berkley of Nevada really wants this gambling ban. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HZ01179:

hmm...I wonder why.

Greetings from the Land of the Not So Free

October 1, 2006, 4:45pm (report abuse)

Let's see: It's OK to lie to the Americian people so as to start a war that is detrimental to the interest of the US, so as to assure reelection and/or fatten the wallets of friends of the Administration such as Haliburton, etc; reinterpret the Geneva Convention to allow actions that previously would be unaceeptable under the Articles, bringing shame on this Country and jeopordizing our troops who could someday be POW's; it's OK to bankrupt the country through a combination of bankrolling unecessary wars while cutting the taxes of the wealthy. It will take a lifetime or more to repair the damage that Pres. Bush and the Republican Congress has done to this Country and as long as these despots remain in office, the repairs won't be made. Instead, they will try to distract the American people with such nonsense as this Internet Gambling law.

Jacknoir.com Blogger

October 3, 2006, 4:33pm (report abuse)

we have this same conversation going on at a gambling community site I write for. We are not an "online casino", but we link to them! If you want more places to get your opinion heard, please stop by. I don't know that we have any pull with government, but it can't hurt to discuss it. www.jacknoir.com

Life is a Gamble

October 3, 2006, 4:53pm (report abuse)

Everything we do in life is a gamble. So why take away something so many people enjoy. I've lost a lot more money on the Stock Market then placing money on football or basketball games. So what's the difference between the two? At least I can watch the players on tv and evaluate for myself how they might perform the next game. But when it comes to buying stock I have no clue what these board of directors are going to do.

Bored at home

October 3, 2006, 7:46pm (report abuse)

BUT THE GOVERNMENT THINKS IT IS OK FOR PARENTS TO BRING THEIR KIDS TO CASINO'S AT ALL HOURS AND HAVE THEM SLEEPING ON A BENCH!!!For a stay home mom that wants to have a little fun at home, but is an adult and can limit herself, it is a shame internet gambling is being taken away. AT LEAST MY KIDS ARE IN BED WHEN I'M PLAYING UNLIKE THE KIDS I'VE SEEN SLEEPING ON BENCHES AT CASINO'S AT ALL HOURS.

THERE IS MUCH WORSE TO BAN

October 3, 2006, 7:48pm (report abuse)

WHY NOT BAN THE PORN SITES, THEY ARE DISGUSTING OR THE MY SPACE THAT ARE GETTING KIDS IN TROUBLE???? INSTEAD OF AN ADULT GAME SITE THAT IS FUN.

Deserter

October 4, 2006, 1:23am (report abuse)

Yes, I think I'll become a deserter. Yes, I shall move to the UK, New Zealand, Australia, Gibralter, Antilles, Cosdt Rica, somewhere where the politicians have their head on straight when it come to internetpoker by using the regulation to generation government revenue! Our politicians are all morons, morons I tell you.

rome138

October 5, 2006, 4:53am (report abuse)

horse poo poo...

we should just do what europe does and have it regulated and tax if it must be...win win situation...

Dawn

October 6, 2006, 9:17am (report abuse)

Banning the online gambling is stupid,as the ones who are passing the law!As an american and a taxpayer I should have the right to do as I please with my hard earned taxed dollars as I want to do with it.So reconsider and don't push this dumb law thru!!!!

PKelley

October 7, 2006, 12:07am (report abuse)

The government's problem with online gambling is that they can't get their share, no way for them to tax it. There are too many communists among us.

gonow

October 7, 2006, 5:52am (report abuse)

I have only one thing to say....

I believe that this is not going to be the land of the "free" much longer. The way I see it the government will take control of absolutely everything. hmmmm isn't that communism? And more importantly why is the gov. doing something to control all the school shootings? I am afraid for kids in schools today! Now that is sad!

Another American

October 11, 2006, 4:05pm (report abuse)

I'm just amazed! "They" won't be happy until we stayed locked in our homes, afraid to look out the doors! What other rights will they intrude upon?

pokr nut

October 12, 2006, 12:14am (report abuse)

so what is to stop people from opening offshore accounts to supply onling gambling.They are not banning the sites just the funding from U.S banks..

William Romero

October 12, 2006, 11:15pm (report abuse)

This bill is a violation of the constitutional rights of every american. The government restricting the online poker players from playing at home is the same as telling all americans that they have no right to gamble. In that case ban all casinos and shut Las Vegas down. Its unfair the government should protect our freedom, and our rights to spend our money how we wan\'t to. Crimanlizing this is another way to take one more of our civil liberties. And every person who gambles irresbosibly is to blame. Congress is definatly failing america if this law passes. I have the right to play poker online or at the casinos if I choose to;However, not if the clowns in congress have anything to say about it. This is typical of congress to interfere with another freedom we enjoy. Thanks for dropping the ball again Washington.

Clownboy

October 12, 2006, 11:23pm (report abuse)

This is a way for congress to blow the wistle on honest hard working americans that want to play at home. The government needs every penny they can grab with thier grubby little hands. And since they dont tax us like the casinos they are going to muck all freedoms that they dont control. I feel like an idiot for having faith in legislation. Im gonna vote against every sentor that voted for this bill.

Protect the American People

October 13, 2006, 12:03pm (report abuse)

We have bigger things to worry about for example North Korea with their nuclear,Iraq and Terrorism. Instead of wasting OUR tax money on Internet gambling, OUR money should go toward lets say Protecting the AMERICAN People, Patroling our boarder, cure for cancer and thats not all. Internet gambling should be the very very last thing on any of OUR House or senate mind. This show us how much our government cares about the American People.

Time2Revolt

October 14, 2006, 6:54am (report abuse)

There's only one way to deal with this. Someone needs to put together a list of everyone who voted for this. and EVERYONE needs to vote against anyone who voted for this. The reason OUR government continues to do this stuff and it continues to worsen. Is because our general atitude is let someone else work this out and we do not come together as a whole unit all at once. It will not be fixed by someone else it can only be fixed when everyone is involved in a single organized movement. If you let this one slide what else are you willing to let slide next? It's your choice, which country are we in? Is it the land of the free. Or the home of "Big Brother"? Perhaps, the next bill will be that everyone including new borns must sumbit a DNS sample to be placed in a national database with or without your consent. Of course this will be for your own protection! It will help stop crime. And don't worry, It's the federal government. It will never get lost, stolen or mis-used. "WE PROMISE"!

Ridiculous

October 14, 2006, 5:58pm (report abuse)

This bill is ridiculous... not only does it seam shady for them to "fine print" this act on the bottom of a port protection act... but how can a government who rebelled from a king due to unfair taxes... now try to prohibit the freedom of choice on how to use their own money??

Dr Zorba

October 15, 2006, 3:27am (report abuse)

The fascists have taken our country. The only difference is we get to loathe our "Dear Leader" without summary execution. Of course pretty soon "dissidants" will become "enemy combatents," and from there, it's off to Syria they go for questioning by a Black and Decker electric drill.

charles

October 19, 2006, 1:11am (report abuse)

Im 55 and a life long republician....they made their vote , now Im making mine soon.....I will vote democrat.....not that most are anydam better, but the republicians attached this to an important bill so they could get it though. And our republician president signed it......time for a change in our leadership

TJ

October 23, 2006, 8:22pm (report abuse)

This bill is basically another instrument our government is going to use in their quest to manipulate social order. Another liberty lost...

Michael Dalton

October 26, 2006, 11:02am (report abuse)

Support Amending this Stupid Law!!!

Write your congressman and get involved. Go to http://www.bjrnet.com and click on the ACTION ALERT which will provide a form to automatically print the forms necessary and/or send your email message to congress.

Lefthander16

November 14, 2006, 1:20am (report abuse)

Well... Think the republicans got the message? Vote them out, not just the right, all of them. When you see incumbent, vote for someone else. Try the Libertarian party. These people just want to make sure that government doesn’t get too big and that the laws YOU vote on are followed. This bill is just ridicules.

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