http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills info@washingtonwatch.com http://www.pjdoland.com/chai/?v=0.1 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#152634 I live in the interior of B.C. in acreage country. These are the stallions that I know of within 15 minutes of where I live. 1 New Dale 1 Hackney 1 Peruvian 2 Paint 5 Arabs half-starved with an owner who can't afford to geld them. Quarter Horses 1 roan 1 perlino 1 palomino 1 buckskin 1 sorrel 1 bay Three of the coloured stallions are owned by a equine vet that should know better. Cheap stud fees don't help. Is it any wonder that there is an over supply of horses especially quarter horses. There are two slaughter facilities close by in Alberta but horses still die from neglect and starvationl.... 152634@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:00:00 EST http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#149402 Tessa Hughes: If you can't afford to put a horse down humanely (gunshot or chem), then you can't afford to own a horse. It's that simple.... 149402@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:00:00 EST http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#147122 Starvation and abuse in Canada where there are lots of slaughter houses!There is no relationship between abuse/neglect and slaughter. http://www.thespec.com/article/627731... 147122@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:00:00 EST http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#144594 I am concerned about the unintentional harmful effect this bill has on horses. Typically, although the vast majority of equines are useful and beloved animals, some few are not. They may have a dangerous temperament, or have suffered a painful incurable injury, for example. Horses are utility animals, and have historically carried a base livestock value; in the last 50 years, the avg. base value has been 50-75 cents a pound ($500-$750 per horse). Thus, regardless of quality, any equine carried this livestock value, such as a cow or sheep. You could improve upon a horse's value through training and good care. Without this base value, many people cannot afford to care for horses and now cannot sell them. Cash-strapped owners are without a humane alternative and are forced to allow them to starve or to abandon them in conditions in which they cannot survive. Rescue facilities are beyond capacity; putting down a horse, due to the burial expense ($200 and up)is not an option.... 144594@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:00:00 EST http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#144981 To Tessa Hughes There is no relationship between abuse/neglect and slaughter. This is why you still see starving horses. If people who abuse/neglect their horses sent them to slaughter, which is still available to horse owners even today, you wouldn't see starving horses! The reason horses are worthless is because of OVERBREEDING. There are responsible horse owners who have lost their jobs etc and can't afford to care for horses. However, there are many IRRESPONSIBLE horse owners/breeders who continue to overbreed because they have the slaughter option, even today. 134,000 horses were sent to slaughter in 2008 yet we hear the same violin song about starving horses and the poor horse market. The economy has resulted in a further reduction in prices on everything including the price of a horse. Responsible horse owners need to aggressively find homes for their horses BEFORE they lose weight. Their vets should help and HSUS has useful information on their website.... 144981@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:00:00 EST http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#80916 I'm from Australia and am waiting for this bill to be passed. Its a matter of keeping senators and politicians in check on their quick decisions put forward without first asking the people. Humans have the ability to be moral and should stop throwing it out the window for temporary profit.... 80916@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#78888 There are NO medication rules for human consumption horse slaughter in the US...it is an "honor system". You cannot guarantee that each and every one of those Yakima horses have or have not been exposed to exempted meds. In addition, not every equine going to slaughter for human consumption comes from the Yakima reservation. So I'd say you're the "empty" one perpetuating unproven, undocumented so called facts to maintain the slaughter for human consumption hard headed diatribe. And the med issue is only one aspect of our position that HCHS is a cruel, inhumane process peddling unsafe meat to humans...and the EU recognizes the drug issue whether you want to or not. Pass these bills.... 78888@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#80460 Interesting. 10,000 horses that are not being wormed, that don’t receive meds when they are sick, no fly spray, never get cuts and require ointment, etc. Sounds like animal neglect to me.... 80460@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#74961 October 4th, 2009 ... and Food UNSafety, UNemployement, BLM UNnecessary Mustang/Burro round-ups, Banking/Wall Street UNoversight and the UNderinsured death spiral continues UNder the ever corrupted, paid for "eye" of Congress. As I type, equines are being transported, abused, butchered alive. But I guess you all are too busy bashing Obama or "trolling" for campaign/lobbying/reelection cash for your fiefdoms. Pass this bill! Fix dirty food! Stop cruelty and irresponsibilty bashed repeatedly on US equines. While you're at it...clean up the US meat export and domestic industries!!! PASS S727/1579/HR503/305... 74961@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#75055 I see it's still the same empty arguements by the anti slaughter. Still with the TAINTED meat line, right now there are over 10,000 horses on the Yakama Reservation in Washington state that have NO chemicals or medications in their systems, why wouldn't those horses be suitable for human consumption?... 75055@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65892 Hey EricN: How about some discussion about the problems with the economy and how it's impacting luxury items like equines and pets...always the first to go? After some intellgent debate about the economy, how about an intelligent debate about horse slaughter versus humane euthanasia? How about noncertifiable drug exposure and purity of US Horsemeat? How about the statistics that show the overwhelming majority of equine owners in the US DO NOT UTILIZE HCHS, nor do they need to!!! The only humans prepetuating pain and suffering of equines are those owners that don't care satisfactorily for them to include death, whether in good times or bad. The ones using the payout that is HCHS are the ones responsible. I know how to euthanize a horse that I choose to either keep or can't afford any longer....and it ain't gonna be the meatman to inflict pain on my loyal servants peddling poison meat to humans. Senators...get going, pass S727 AND 1579 while you are at it.... 65892@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65440 Those who are against horse slaughter are actually perpetuating the cruelty they claim to be against. It's a fact that there are too many horses for the economy of horse enthusiasts to absorb. As a result, animals are being turned loose to die of starvation in anguish. Hoarders who believe themselves to be rescues are taking in more animals than they can afford and are starving them. The lack of good homes makes people hang onto horses long after they can afford to keep them. With the closing of slaughter houses in the US, the only release valve is slaughter in Mexico or Canada. And those unregulated places are worse! Forbidding shipping to slaugher will result in more abandonment and neglect. Those are just facts. Stars in the eyes make good movies but bad policy. You should be lobbying for humane methods of either slaughter or euthenasia. Anything else may make you feel good, but it makes matters worse.... 65440@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65463 To EricN: More propaganda by yet another anti-horse person. 1) Provide specific information on this board of horses that are being set loose. 2) Horse slaughter has been going on for years yet anti-horse people like you still use horse starvation as an excuse. 134,000 American equines were slaughtered in 2008. You have NO facts. You only have an opinion. You are making yourself feel good by denying the real facts so you can continue to send horses to slaughter. More bs from horse haters.... 65463@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65408 I'm assuming (and actually KNOW) that Congress can multi-task. There are many important issues...if you are so concerned about healthcare (which is basically an attempt to DIMINISH and sidetrack the HCHS issue), why aren't you concerned about humans eating meat that can cause a myriad of health conditions such as : suppressed immune system, aplastic anemia and worms/parasites?????? Horsemeat is directly related to human health. It is also an issue of cruelty to the equidae. Congress, clean up our food system and you'll go a long way toward improving human health. Stopping HCHS is a step in that direction. PASS 727/1579 & HR503/305... 65408@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65419 Forgot to add....you are NOT asking a nonbiased question. You are attempting to question a poster based on the name of the poster...not the message and thereby shifting the focus of this debate. Stay on topic! What is wrong with the content of the post. I'd do business with Satan, yes, Satan to stop this cruelty and irresponsibility to humans and horses. But remember, I would not sell my soul to do the same. Which is basically what all in HCHS do everyday. Congress, you have a ton of business to do. Let's start with enforcing current laws through and to prosecution and clean up our food system. PASS 727... 65419@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65400 Congress: Pass S727 NOW.... 65400@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65240 Just asking a non biased question. The writing pattern was similar to Ann. Didn't know it was going to cause an explosion! No need to be soooo sensitive. Congress-lets clean up healthcare.... 65240@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65108 To Hmmmm: Your evil heart betrays you.... 65108@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65119 UF: I wish it were that simple. Hmmm is a profiteer, skimming the equines via regs and laws without enforcement that is currently our Nation's system. Hmmm is a scooper or breeder/user that depends on slaughter to dispose of their output/intake without payout for same. Cheap pieces of garbage. Just for example: why does someone pay for breeding/training/upkeep (assuming that they do this in the first place) and sell to HCHS????? Answer: The miniscule amount of money for diposal as opposed to paying for accountable, scientifically documented medical disposal which requires out of pocket expense. PASS this bill!!! Make people behave even if they don't want to.... 65119@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#65033 Finally someone has recognized that horse meat is unsafe. The European Union Equine Food Safety Requirements are intended for horses for food production. By next April they want a system of identity verification. Also a prohibition on the use of anabolic steroids and other prohibited drugs and a miniumum of 6 months withdrawl period for veterinary medicinal products. Horses in feedlots will not be treated with drugs. Sounds like they consider horse meat unsafe food.... 65033@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 27 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#64992 Unsafe Food: Are you Dr Ann Marini? Sure sounds like you.... 64992@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#64457 A lady from Washington wrote a letter to the Western Producer regarding horse medicines. If you want a list of the drugs the U.S. horses are given please take a look at www.vetsforequinewelfare.org/medications.php. She says "if these drugs were given to beef cattle they would have to be destroyed as toxic waste."... 64457@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#64468 You would think the documented cruelty would be enough to stop this horror on our equines, but to realize that our government, the exporting AND importing governments could frankly care less about the humans consuming this meat is absolutely tragic and downright criminal. PASS 727 PASS 727 PASS 727... 64468@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#64260 Once again, we have a quote from a so-called horse expert that a horse that is deemed diseased or too dangerous to ride/train is too much a risk to euth humanely, but not too dangerous to eat; even though it may have been exposed to bute. Now, if that isn't some of the most seriously askew logic, I don't know what is. And I just have to ask...if you don't medicate for pain in a horse, just what the Hades is being done to manage pain in your horses?????? Nothing?!?! Perfect logic that completes the goofy logic circle utilized by clueless. Just perfect. PASS 727 PASS 727... 64260@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_SN_727.html#64266 The point being made by the above entry I have shared, is that there are people (like myself, years ago) that enjoy horses and people and are trying to make a living at it. All but three horses out of hundreds, went on to live full and productive lives that impacted beginning horse people in a positive way. Who knows, maybe one of those horses belonged to one of the readers here. I personally, no longer make my living at this, but understand that those that do, are not only providing a great service to the equine population but to our beginning horse lovers as well. Again, I do not advocate inhumane slaughter practice. However it is a link in the industry that has made it strong. Getting rid of slaughter will have a ripple effect in both positive and negative ways and I feel we need to consider the pros and cons before passing this bill.... 64266@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT