http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills info@washingtonwatch.com http://www.pjdoland.com/chai/?v=0.1 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#114772 "Cinderella": What sound and useful advice. Question: Why aren't you telling owners that have lost their jobs to euthanize humanely. I just got through spending a gazzillion dollars for blankets for my horses because I don't dump them based on the seasons. Evidently you know owners that do. Nice crowd you're running with. And not everyone that has lost their job has dumped their horses, or dogs, or cats or house. Easy? Nope! But not impossible. MaryS: Many horse owners SPECULATE on their sloppy business ownership with regard to horses (and dogs and cats for that matter) or are just plain stupid. Congress, regulate this mess and get all these bills passed AND ENFORCED.... 114772@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#95255 Get ready here come the horses. Winter is apon u and the ones that have tried to keep there best have lost thier jobs now. Hope you have placed all your one eyed lame wonders you saved from last yr! Put them down cause now the best of the best will be comeing ur way with no papers. Good luck looks to a worst winter than usuall coming too. better start buying some hay!... 95255@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#85979 Whoever reads this and owns a stallion,or unfixed pet-should really look at the heart of what this means ,We are responsible for every animal that is born if your horse or pet is not quality and the mares is not quality everyone that is bred to your horse-that is another potential aniaml taking up 30 years of earths resources and quite possibly may be abused or neglected in the future.We can make a difference if you are not showing or have not proven your horse stallion(whole horse)-castration is the answer and educating people on what quality is and what their impact is -i see it at horse fairs -if your horse(mare) is quality the stud fee is cheaper--excuse me all horses bred should be quality or not be bred--we have created this mess we need to clean it up people that buy horses should look at the rescues and buy rather than breed for a quality horse.100,000 are still going to MEX /CAN still people are breeding a few words here -PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY care for our animals !... 85979@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#80911 Efforts to fix this issue should be directed at the cause not the symptom: its the excess breeding of horses in the first place. Fees for needle euthenasia and disposal should be funded by government or accepted to be a cost by the owner for their mistake of breeding too many to the point that they can't even pay for a needle for their own animals.... 80911@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#63662 I believe that we need to stop breeding poor quality horses period 130,000 quarterhorses were registered last year how many were poor quaity they live 30 years and take alot of resources $to raise if you cannot afford them do not breed them,the blm.gov we are paying 38 million a yr to feed penned up mustangs that double size every 4 years what is being done for them -are they being castrated,their are breeders that raise them. We have to say when and not breed or adopt or if breeding breed quality -if they want to put someone in jail for abusing an animal fine by me .... 63662@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#63666 I agree with Leah plan for life,pets are not disposable they are a responsibility,i chose my horse over having cable,i feed my animals before i eat,a choice i made to protect and care for them,people that get into horses know they live 25+ years or are stupid idiots that dont ask questions and when they do not suit their needs (theses days are letting them starrve to death in their back yard,and themselves sit down to 3 meals a day and make excuses why they cannot get another parttime job to pay for their pets care. we live in a disposable society there are so many idiots that do not deserve to own an animal-and do -i rescue and foster rescues because of mankinds stupidity and hope this bill passes and puts stupid people away again at our expense__ we are uncle sam >> our goverment is going broke because of poor choices ,greed and corruption people need to smarten up plan for the future and not own an animals if they cannot handle the responsibility.... 63666@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#62125 Human Consumption Horse Slaughter IS NOT QUALITY OF LIFE OR, I REPEAT, OR A MERCIFUL END OF LIFE FOR US EQUINES. One considers the cruel handling, transport and horrific death through CBG for horses slaughtered for this kind of death being enough to stop it, but what is more disgusting is the lack of inspection and thorough testing for the horsemeat product that humans unwittingly consume. A horse owner can pay for qualified chem or gunshot death all day long. HCHS is not humane and in fact allows horses to be conscious while they are butchered alive. Anita...you are wrong...AGAIN! amy...the people in Congress that don't support it listen to constiuents that rely on "squeeze the last final buck" out of their equines for payout; peddling contaminated meat to humans. Ethically corrupt to me. PASS HR503/305 and S727... 62125@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#62127 Problems, Problems: You said..."My question is do you have a problem with a horse being shot painlessly and professionally and then processed for human consumption? If you do tell me why? Is it because horse flesh makes your skin crawl? Rattlesnake makes my skin crawl but I have no problem with some one eating one of them. Its about choices and being free in the USA to make those choices, whether we agree with them are not. Or is it a case you have such a small life you would like to butt into others? VOTE NO TO 503/305"... Poorly worded questions at best and over emotionalized because you are not acknowledging that these animals are not raised as a meat for humans source and skip traditional production, medication and handling regulations by the USDA. HCHS of US equines currently lives in the land of loopholes. Rework you question(s). And this time leave rattlesnakes out of the HCHS debate and the crawl crap. PASS HR503/305/1018 & S727 PASS HR503/305/1018 & S727... 62127@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#61610 How can people vote against this...the people that did are sick... 61610@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#60878 "Reverence for Life" is = "Survival Instinct". It is what drives natural evolution and reproduction. In the presence of health and quality of life there is a wish to survive and continue with life in all living creatures. However, the above statement fails to recognize that when the cycle of life is near its end, health and quality of life is no longer viable...then the wish to go on living/ or "reverence for life" WILL become a reverence for death shared by both man and beast. You, Betty Kelly, MD must have witnessed this first hand at least once or you are NOT an MD that has any RESPECT for your patient's last wishes. How many more minutes we can force a heart to beat is NOT and should not be our objective, QUALITY of life and a merciful end is what really matters for both man and beast. NO to HR503/727... 60878@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#60371 6-12-2009 FYI: James Brabazon (Author of the biography of Dr. Albert Schweitzer) defined Dr. Schweitzer’s “Reverence for Life” with the following statement: "Reverence for Life (Albert Schweitzer) says that the only thing we are really sure of is that we live and want to go on living. This is something that we share with everything else that lives, from elephants (wild horses) to blades of grass – and, of course, every human being. So we are brothers and sisters to all living things, and owe to all of them the same care and respect, that we wish for ourselves.” You people, who believe that you are the Center of the Universe and all things revolve around you, are so dumbed-down that I doubt you are able to comprehend the significance of the above statement. Support America’s Great Steeds and support HR 503 and HR 1018. Horse Slaughter in any form is inhumane. Betty Kelly, M.D., Carson City NV 89704... 60371@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#60288 My question is do you have a problem with a horse being shot painlessly and professionally and then processed for human consumption? If you do tell me why? Is it because horse flesh makes your skin crawl? Rattlesnake makes my skin crawl but I have no problem with some one eating one of them. Its about choices and being free in the USA to make those choices, whether we agree with them are not. Or is it a case you have such a small life you would like to butt into others? VOTE NO TO 503/305... 60288@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#57605 I am against human consumption horse slaughter of US Horses because of the myriad of abusive practices to include transport and the FACT that it is not a thoroughly regulated meat source for humans in the US. Foreign consumption of US Horses is a function of loopholes and lack of enforcement. PASS HR503/305/1018... 57605@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#57617 I have had everyone of my animals to their deaths in old age. Each one humanely put to sleep when the time came. Throughout all that time I have had jobs and lost jobs, been sick, yet I never got rid of one of them because of my hard times. Why? How? Because I planned ahead, saved money, covered my expenses, developed good financial relationships with my vet, but I always found a way to take care of each one of them. The problem is people live for today. They do not think of what will happen and what they should be planning for. It is taking responsibility for what they own and how they live. A vast number of people who are hitting upon hard times these days are those that failed to take charge of their lives in a protective and responsible way. Yes, there can be a few that no matter what, but they are few and should be helped when the need arises. If more had taken control of their finances we would have a lot less problems now.... 57617@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#57344 D.Masters, Are you opposed to all horse slaughter or just the inhumane aspects of the transportation?... 57344@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#56474 Should the only people that can ever own a horse be people who know they can own it a minimum of 20 years??? That's nuts! You would mean no one should ever be able to buy a horse if they're someone who might move, might their job, get in an accident, or want the joy of just say 2-5 years of horse ownership and can only afford that!!?!... 56474@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#56476 Make payments on putting your horse down? And having it disposed of? If an owner is too poor 1 month to pay for something that doesn't make sense, should we just give them a payment plan so it is ensured that they are poorer for several months? If this was just a very occasional problem, or it only happened with a very few owners, or there weren't viable options, maybe payment plans or charitable donations should be used to remedy it. But that is not the reality.... 56476@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#56486 HCHS is not humane disposal. It is not regulated or inspected disposal. It does not provide a USDA inspected meat product for humans...that, is reality. You don't want to plan for disposal without the option of HCHS than don't own a horse. Frankly, please don't ever own a horse. The last 2 previous posts (actually make that the last 3) are nonsensical, nonregulation, lacking law reference or scientifically based. You speculate on horses, then speculate on their longevity. HCHS serves less than 2% of the US Horse population. Sorry guys, but you are just not that special and do not deserve special consideration. More importantly, it is a disservice to our horses who provide service to us. PASS HR 503/305/1018 and S727... 56486@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#56264 D Masters you sound very smart. Sometime if you ever get out in the the real world maybe someone will take you serious. Here is just a thought: If you don't like horses auctions raise a good horse that you wouldn't have to sell there. And if you really don't want to slaughter you horse don't. It's a choice that we should all have.... 56264@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#56206 Clue, the legislation is not criminalizing horse meat, it is criminalizing horse slaughter. The legislators are wise to the pro slaughter misinformation campaign and this is just another example to add to the list. Didn’t you get rid of the excess horses last year and the year before and the year before….? You’re slaughtering the excess horses this year. Are you saying that you guys are producing more excess horses this year so you have an excuse to whine for slaughter next year? Hasn’t everyone that doesn’t want their horse already abandoned them or starved them? You guys have hurt the horse market by supplying more than there is a demand for and it sounds like you are planning to do the same thing this year so you can have a made up excuse for horse slaughter next year. Horses are responsible for a $140+B industry. They have earned a humane death.... 56206@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#56077 This and S.727 are 2 of the worst examples of legislature to come out of washington in decades! Criminalizing horsemeat? are you kidding me?? Not only has the loss of the slaughter facilities hurt the horse market it has cost the taxpayers yet MORE money to support these animals! what is wrong with our congresspeople?!? If that isnt enough the animals are being left to starve and to fend for themselves because horse owners who may already be strapped for cash in this depressed economy, have no economical solution to dispose of their animals. It is complete and utter insanity to think that any good would come from removing the slaughter option! I BEG you, Please VOTE NO on H.R.503/S.727!!... 56077@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#56078 Early age? If it is between injection by vet/bullet I would rather have that then the tortured experience from the auction facilities all the way through the kill box, which is the cruelest things one could do to a horse. From Canada came these words by the CHDC: “We fear that these problems could be endemic in the horse slaughter industry itself,” said Sinikka Crosland, executive director of the CHDC. “Ultimately, we don’t believe that in an assembly line situation like this, that there can be such a thing as the humane slaughter of a horse. They react quicker, they’re harder to stabilize in the kill-box, so often the captive bolt gun would miss it’s mark.” This is what they saw along with veterinarians with their own eyes and it is happening today. This is the truth you do not want to realize because then you would have to face the fact that you and the pro slaughter people are partakers of this cruelty when you send your horses to such a fate.... 56078@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#55975 For casual horse owners it should be no problem to keep your horses until they are 20 or 30. But for the people doing this as a business it is not feasable. If computers were your business would you still have the green screen and 300 mghrtz CPU ? If you wrote books....would you still use the old pica typewriter instead of going to a computer? NO to HR503 NO to S727... 55975@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#56012 Prairie: You are comparing objects to living, breathing and feeling creatures, there is no comparison. When one gets a horse they know they are going to live 20 - 30 years tops. You plan for that time and care when they are no longer useful as they worked for you so many years they should also be allowed to have retirement years just like you a living, breathing and feeling being. If you cannot afford to do so, then the money they made for you in whatever, you can set enough aside so that it can be humanely put down by a vet or bullet. And don't come back crying they are livestock, they are not. They work for a living and deserve some form of just compensation for what they gave to you, but no you have to get every bloody dollar out of them by sending them to the worse, most cruel and inhumane form of end to their good lives. Oh, I forgot, you pro people do not do that to the good horses, just the bad ones as a punishment for being bad.... 56012@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_503.html#56021 Leah, horses are not humans, I'm afraid you will never get that. You want them to live out retirement years, but its ok for us to shoot them at an earlier age? No to HR503 S727... 56021@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:00:00 EDT