WashingtonWatch.com - H.R. 3380, To amend title 4, United States Code, to prescribe that members of the Armed Forces and veterans out of uniform may render the military salute during hoisting, lowering, or passing of flag

Comment by GENE D. YOURKO,SFC (Ret).) (October 6, 2008, 01:00:00)

Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:00:00 EDT

Makes me feel good to honor the flag and our country with a salute. Puts veterans in a group of their own which is a cut above the rest....

Comment by Martin (August 6, 2008, 01:00:00)

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:00:00 EDT

I don't get it. It's a free country. I'll salute the Jolly Roger if I damn well please!...

Comment by Don L. McDougle,USMC,4 yrs. (July 1, 2008, 01:00:00)

Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:00:00 EDT

I think it is the right thing to do ,allowing vets to salute. There are not that many of us left anymore.Semper FI !!!!...

Comment by Michael F. White TSgt, USAF. (Ret.) (June 14, 2008, 01:00:00)

Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:00:00 EDT

It is about time that this happened. Ray Rauanheimo, where do you get the idea that those who served forgot how to salute. I went to the graveside service of a LCPL Robert Zurheride who we lost in Iraq. There were over 100 uniformed members who saluted. However they were outnumbered over two to one by the rest of us who have finished our term, and let me tell you. I saw aged men on walkers whose salute matched those rendered by drill instructers currently on duty!...

Comment by ETC Dale.Rose USNFR (April 30, 2008, 01:00:00)

Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:00:00 EDT

HR 4986 which is the 2008 DOD AUthorization Act signed into law Jan 28, 2008 Section 594 amends Section 9 Title 4 of the United States Code giving military members out of uniform and veterans the option of rendering the military salute to the flag during raising, lowering, passing in parade or review. It did not change the rules of the pledge of allegience or national anthem which is given by hand over the heart if not in uniform....

Comment by Gordy (January 22, 2008, 01:00:00)

Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:00:00 EST

If in uniform, salute, if not in uniform (cap) place right hand over heart. Hard enough problem getting people to stand and place hand over heart. If you want to salute, join a Vets organization and be in uniform - there is at least one for everyone....

Comment by Bob Edmunds CDR, USN (ret.) (January 18, 2008, 01:00:00)

Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:00:00 EST

Firemen, policemen and other first responders who wear the uniform of their trade typically salute the flag in public whether they have served in the military or not. Allow me to stand and salute the flag as a veteran. I'm proud of my service, my military comrades and my country. We're worried about "wannabe's"? You can't get a lot of people to even shut up during the National Anthem anymore. I doubt that an improper salute by a non-veteran would be a HUGE problem....

Comment by Frank (November 22, 2007, 01:00:00)

Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EST

Saluting is something you do in uniform. Civilians don't salute. That's it. To hell with the nanny state. I'm a vet, inactive status, and saluting is for serving military in uniform. Don't dilute this important part of the military....

Comment by Stan Solin (November 19, 2007, 01:00:00)

Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EST

Politically Correct? Sloppy salute? The bullet with your name on it didn't care. I served, I salute....

Comment by Gene (November 19, 2007, 01:00:00)

Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EST

Have to agree with the other gentlemen who do not feel that a law is required to be passed to tell me it is alright to stand and salute our National Colors. Will I be arrested if I do so? And if more of us veterans would do so, perhaps our younger generation, not taught any patriotism or respect for the past in our schools, will themselves begin to ask why and will themslves begin to once again salute and offer respect. Looking at legislation to protect the flag from outright disrespect would be of more benefit to our society. Gene San Jose, California...

Comment by Ken Girdley (November 18, 2007, 01:00:00)

Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EST

As a veteran who served in West Germany during Viet Nam, I look forward to the day when I can proudly salute, without question, the U.S. flag every time it is hoisted up a pole or passes in front of me. I've served four terms as the Commander of our local California American Legion Post 558 and am always proud to render the proper military salute when wearing my AL cap as our nation's flag passes by. Please contact your U.S. Representative and ask him/her to co-sponsor, or at least vote for, H.R. 3380. I'm confident it will be signed into law as soon as it passes in the House. Ken Girdley 1LT, 1/41st FA (Pershing) West Germany (1972-1973)...

Comment by William J. Shet (November 18, 2007, 01:00:00)

Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EST

I think this whole bill is a waiste of time congress should have better things to work on than this. I would like to meet the official that charges someone for saluting the flag out of uniform,...

Comment by Jim Reese (November 18, 2007, 01:00:00)

Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EST

I will salute Old Glory any and every chance I get. Congress should have the guts to support House Resolution 333 and impeach Cheney NOW! (Two dozen Reps have) We need to prevent WW3! This legislative nonsense, while we have a nation on the brink of collapse, is like counting deck chairs on the Titanic as it sinks! Major, USAR, ARMOR, Retired...

Comment by Larry Anderson (November 14, 2007, 01:00:00)

Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EST

Who has a better right to render a military salute to the flag than the veteran that fought for the flag. Men of honor will always be men of honor. 1st Cav RVN 1967...

Comment by Frank Leach (November 13, 2007, 01:00:00)

Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EST

I have always found it difficult not to salute our country's greatest symbol. I think all veterans should be allowed to salute the flag anytime anywhere and especially when draped over the coffin of a fellow veteran. SGT/USAF/1964-1968...

Comment by Gene Moore, (November 12, 2007, 01:00:00)

Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EST

I would be honored to stand and render a military salute to our flag. At a recent Veterans Day parade, I was the only one on the street to stand whenever the flag went by. People don't show any respect anymore. Harry E. Moore TSgt/USAF/EOD...

Comment by Daniel Robbins (November 2, 2007, 01:00:00)

Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EDT

How many people don't even stand and pay respect during the National Anthem? Do I care if someone is a "wanna-be" like the thousands of small children who salute the flag? I would find it an honor to continue to render honors once I have completed my service and would prefer veterans and "wanna-be" people show honor to those that have served. CWO2 Daniel Robbins, USNR COB Speicher, Tikrit, Iraq daniel.robbins@iraq.centcom.mil...

Comment by Chuck Fenwick, Dir Medical Corps (November 2, 2007, 01:00:00)

Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:00:00 EDT

Dear God, what a bunch of wussified morons. Why would anyone think that I need the government's permission to render a military salute to our flag even if I were buck naked? Beside your brains, what else did you lose in the war? Semper Fi Chuck Fenwick HM3 1st Recon RVN 69-70...

Revision by webmaster (October 15, 2007, 01:00:00)

Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:00:00 EDT

H.R. 3380 would amend title 4, United States Code, to prescribe that members of the Armed Forces and veterans out of uniform may render the military salute during hoisting, lowering, or passing of flag.

Detailed Summary

Allows members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are out of uniform to render the military salute during the hoisting, lowering, or passing of the flag.

Status of the Legislation

Latest Major Action: 9/10/2007: Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties.

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Detailed Summary

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Status of the Legislation

Latest Major Action: 9/10/2007: Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties.

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Comment by Jerry Damico (October 7, 2007, 01:00:00)

Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:00:00 EDT

The whole purpose was to let the civilian population see the men and woman who prodley served this country,I for one will slute the flag any time I see it.Come down on the people who burn it and have no regard for this country....

Comment by Stewart Hommel (September 23, 2007, 01:00:00)

Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:00:00 EDT

As a disabled veteran I would be honored to the flag of our country once again. I have always felt a certain loss by not being able to render a military salute as the Flag passes in review....

Comment by Ray Rauanheimo (September 13, 2007, 01:00:00)

Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:00:00 EDT

Re Proposed “New Guidance” on saluting the flag Bills S.1877 & H.R.3380 Speaking from the perspective of having done over 100 military funerals, I am against this change. My reasons are; 1. How does anyone know whether the individual saluting is a veteran or simply a "wannabe?" 2. Many veterans who haven't been in uniform for a long time do a poor job of saluting! 3. There is no current "confusion", only lack of education of the quite clear explanation as to how to render honor to our American Flag, in and out of uniform. 4. We shouldn't be too quick to change long aged traditions just because it may seem politically correct! That's my thinking. I'm proud of it and thankful for those who defend it for me! Ray Rauanheimo Maj(Ret), USA rauanheimo@usa.net 215-816-8643 Cell (Anytime) Proud to be serving with the Military Funeral Honors Program. http://www.cem.va.gov/CEM/mhg.asp...

Status as of September 10, 2007

Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:00:00 EDT

9/10/2007: Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties.

Status as of September 10, 2007

Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:00:00 EDT

9/10/2007: Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties.