rob coppock

This bill is against everything america stands for, If you legalize one group of felons, then lets legalize the actions of all Felons

Stephan Hudson

It frightens me to think of what the US will look like in 25 years.

Laurie Adams

If this bill passes, we are screwed as Americans! Wake-up America!!!

immigrant

High-skilled immigrants have lot of hopes on this immigration bill. H1B workers who had applied for their greencards are waiting since past 7 -9 years due to the backlog. This bill will help clear the backlog. Organization like immigrationvoice.org was formed by such immigrants themselves to solve this issue. This is a mass movement that everyone should join.

Cecil Nixxon

Ours is a country of conditional laws, applicable only to those with influence, power or wealth.

The importation of workers, or disregard for illegal immigration of workers at a wage level that undercuts American workers is unconscionable.

The arguments in favor of amnesty programs and lassiez-faire global economic practices harp on how "difficult" and "complex" these issues are, and how it is "impossible" to enforce laws and convince business to behave responsibly. Consider the source of these arguments and you'll certainly find a minority of special interests posed to profit from immigration abuse.

If you know your elected officials and you are outraged as I am, you will call them today and tell them what you believe. If you really want to take your country back, you will call them regularly and keep yourself well-informed of the issues.

Democracy works only as long as the citizens participate. Otherwise, just lie there and let the man have his way with you.

Diptam Chatterjee

I'm in this country legally for almost 7+ years working for Fortune 500 corporations in IT sector. I'm really sick of this EB3 and EB2 retrogression - it’s like a nightmare which brings down your productivity as an individual. Being in this country for 7+ years I still can't plan for my future...

I don’t know much about illegal immigrants who cut through neighbouring borders - But I see some peoples who came in this country with some VISA and by AIRLINES and they wear good looking clothes,have some Degree and they somehow managed to get GREEN CARD in 1 year by paying CASH thru the process of manipulating/stealing someone else's Priority Date- Would you call that Legal immigration ?? They have also given a name to that racket - "labor Substitution".

Let’s stop all this. Either says a straight Yes/No to all qualified legal immigrants quickly and professionally.

Krish

Please read and understand the issue clearly before objecting it. There is a difference between people legally here and illegally here. Legal High skilled immigrants are asset to the Country, they share knowledge wealth and as well pay tax, medicare etc., etc., as every American citizens do. Even though they dont get benefit for Social security and etc., etc.,.

They are not a threat to American economy or Americans job. They are helpful to American economy and America to be competative enough to other countries. Read about what George Bush and Bill Gates are saying about Legal High Skilled Immigrant.

Dan

It just amazes me that with appox 80% of American people and legal immigrants AGAINST guestworker Amnesty programs both the Dems and Reps want to shove it down our throats.
We really need a new party of the people that will LISTEN to what the American public wants, needs and demands. Until then throw every incumbent out of office till they start to listen and pay attention!
Of course, amnesty is wrong and punishes those here legally, those trying to immigrate legally and to the American citizen.
Who looks out for us? Not the politicians...not until they kill a bill which is in direct conflict with what 80% of the American public wants.

To foreign workers

THIS IS NOT YOUR COUNTRY!

You do not belong in our country, and you certainly do not have any say in our laws! What the hell makes you think you are entitled to American jobs? You are not even Americans!

Div Reddy

People have misunderstood this one... American people shud welcome the legal immigrants. i dont want to say anything abt illegals,

Joe DeSchryver

I can't find anywhere in this bill where an American Citizen can file a complaint against a suspected employer for having hired an illegal alien or displaced an American worker. Where are the remedies for the people who abide by the law?

Beth-San marcos

This is absolutely OUTRAGEOUS! Reward and Respect people who Steal their way here! I too fear what the End Result will be to America. What is Our Recourse?

Support Immigration Reform

For those who hate immigrants, please take out a history book about this country. You ancetors were immigrants, you great-great-ancetors may have killed native Indians to become a settler in the 1500s or 1600s. So YOU do not have rights to preclude others from coming here. Plain and Simple.

From Foreign Workers

Why did you create visa program to bring foreign workers in this Land legally ?

FYI,ask the companies and institutions why they hell they entitle Foreigners to American Jobs legally ?

By the way - there is no point arguing with you. Please study and figure out what "LEGAL IMMIGRANTS" have historically contributed to this country before saying foreigners "You do not belong in our country, and you certainly do not have any say in our laws"

By the way is your anger on Illegal immigrants(which is natural) or just on any immigrants/foreigners who wants to work hard and call America their Future home ??

jON rENNER

DO NOT sign, agree to, or promote ANY form of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill currently being promoted by the President. Illegal aliens must not be allowed to enter, stay here, work here, enjoy life here unless they pay the same dues my grandparents did - LEGALLY. Vote no on current proposal.
DO NOT sell out America - Again!!

andy hales

Speaking as an English man I know what it is like to be overrun by immigrants and the fact we are getting less wages because of this.

My wife is a nurse awaiting a Green card and has now got fed up waiting and applied to Australia to work.

USA like the UK needs good quality skilled workers or they will find the country goes backwards.

What you don't need is lots more unskilled workers, but the time it takes to get in you only get the unskilled workers so USA WAKE UP!

China will soon be the super power don't let this happen.

Michael Cook

If this bill passes and the president signs it, George Bush should be impeached.

I haven’t voted for a democrat since Jimmy Carter ran against Reagan. I’m about as conservative as they come now. I don’t have a problem with anyone coming here as long as you do these four things:

1. Come here legally throught the right channels. Some courtries still shoot people trying to cross their borders illegally.

2. Work and be productive, not living off a welfare system that should be abolished anyway. I don’t care who you are, GET A JOB!!!!!!

3. LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH OR GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM!!!!!!!

4. Learn how to drive or don’t get behind the wheel!!!!!!! And don’t drink and drive.

I’ve looked up to and admired the strength of Bush since 9/11 but something’s changed. Obviously he’s not the man I thought and I’m very disappointed in him.

If he signs this bill giving these ILLEGALS amnesty, he should be impeached and sent back to Texas.

dust

doesn't he realize that the weapons of mass destruction ARE the illigal immigrants??

trigs

Ditto Michael Cook.
I to have admired the strength of Bush and believe he has always put this county first, but I cannot support this amnesty bill. This bill would legalize 12 - 14 million plus criminals. That’s the population of Michigan and Kentucky combined. I don’t know anyone republican or democrat that supports this bill so why is it being force-fed to us?
Wake up and smell the coffee now or we are going to wake up and smell the tacos tomorrow.

Diptam (Talking reality !!)

I'm legally waiting in the GC queue for a longtime and hate any kind of amnesty(This is Amnesty in slow-motion)

But what they can do - in 1 year they have worked on only 200K illegal immigrants ...so 12 MM will take 60 years to get rid of them !!!

Plus $5000 penalty from each of them is going makes a money pool of 50-60 BN which can be used for building Fence,employ cops in there etc..

Actions are Driven by economics/money in Capitalism..

Some one talking about making Manhattan a Toll-Zone to reduce cars and cabs - Same theory ! Controlling Public behaviour by economics - Capitalism ...!!

Makes sense ??

Pat

We need this bill. Families are being torn apart by deportation; all the Republicans who claim to be "pro-family" need to realize this.

Micheal Cook

Dear Pat,

I’m not Republican. I’m a Reagan Conservative.

As for the families being torn apart, it’s regretable this is happening. However, just like you and I, they must suffer the consequences of their own actions.

If an Illegal comes here, gets married, has kids, then gets deported, it’s no one’s fault but their own. They broke the law by coming here illegally and must pay the consequences of their own actions - PERIOD.

J

write to your congressman,call their offices, fax them, tell them they will be held responsible for their stance on this Amnesty Bill.Tell them you will get your community involed, tell them your communities will not forget their stance on this Bill and that we will vote them and their party OUT of office.. thats the way to play. But then again, are we in a Democracy or a (Corporate)Dictatorship????? and this bill is a way to have more slaves serve."The Masters of Money" (look it up)

L Croft

STOP the practice of making every baby born in the US a citizen. I'm against S. 1348.

EB3

I am a highly compensated, well-published, highly educated brown temporary worker on H1B in a fortune 100 company. The company has applied for a green card for me, and I want to make U.S. my future home. I have been educated (college) in the U.S. on an F-1 visa, after which I started working.

For those who are speaking against this bill, are saying that people hard working people like myself are not welcome in America. I should go back to my country & get a job there.

Am I reading this currectly ? If so, is it because I have "taken" a white american job ? Is this about race, or class or just insecurity about survival in the face of global competition ? Can someone (on the far right) please explain.

Thanks

L Croft

If you are here legally and are gainfully employed, welcome. If you want to make America your home and adopt the American way of life and speak English, welcome. If you want to live here and force your language on us, go home.

dabeyen

Diptam said - Some one talking about making Manhattan a Toll-Zone to reduce cars and cabs - Same theory ! Controlling Public behaviour by economics - Capitalism ...!!

If there were less people in the US there would be less traffic. I do not understand why politicians are hellbent on turning the US into a poor, crowded 3rd world country.

Far Right

To EB3:

It sounds like you are going through legal channels to become an American. You and other people like you are being punished by this bill. We're not against immigrants, just ILLEGAL immigrants.

EB3

I love the values America stands on, I do speak English primarily. I am big fan of the foresight of the founding fathers of America. And I particularly like the fact that this country accepts Americans in all shapes, sizes, & colors.

L Croft: I do know & enjoy four other languages - which I don't force on to others. I do not practice religion and I not a Christian. Does that matter ? While I don't go to a church myself I do do respect those how do believe in a personal God.

Far Right: This particular bill (after reading parts of it - please refer Title IV & V) seems to help legal Employment Based visa workers like myself. Can anyone point to a section in the bill so I can focus on that (except title IV & V)?

Unskilled people who came here without a visa or with a visa but did not return are in trouble if the bill passes (see title III).

Diptam

dabeyen-Seems you are getting suffocated by loads of immigrants and you think they will make America Poor,crowded 3rd world country ??

While i can't prevent you from thinking whatever you can please check with your politicians, Fortune 100 company executives, Scholars of American colleges why they brought 3rd world immigrants in America in the first place and what their role was in the last few years !! I'm hoping that your perspective will change.

Once again I do agree that illegal immigration is criminal and any kind of amnesty (immediate or slow motion) is not a good thing at all.

Thanks

EB3

American law makers need to decide the severity of the crime of staying in America beyond the visa permit date or entering the country without a visa (illegal immigration). Justice delayed is justice denied. There has been a delay of 15-20 years relative to the execution of immigration laws. The immigration program of the U.S. has not worked due to a lack of enforcement. The current immigration rules are out dated, unreasonable and unenforceable. The new bill defines an approach that changes the severity of the crime, in other words the change to the law is essentially substituting punishments. Are the people against the substitution of the punishment from deportation to fines? Which part of the bill are people really against? Is it that immigration laws have not been enforced historically and now they want all law breakers to pay at once? Or is it because there is an insecurity regarding the "browning" of America and possibly changing the texture of the country in the years to come?

Dave

Welcome to the third world, USA! The middle and poor classes of the U.S. are really going to suffer. This nation is about to resemble India, with poverty, hunger, disease, dying, and the level of education is going to get dragged down further. Oh and don't forget about gangs and crime. America, the home of the brave and the bars over the home windows.

Donny

We have 78 Visa programs. Border invaders need to apply for a visa and then wait in line.

EB3

Donny - 100% agree.
Dave - not sure what you are talking about!

YOU PEOPLE R NOT OK

CAME ON IT THE END OF THE WORD PLEASE WE DONT CARE IF PASS OR NOT WE GOIN KEEP WORKING ON THE SAME JOB THAT I DONT SEE NONE OF YOU.

Deport Illegals

First, deport all illegal aliens. Second, secure the borders. Third, hold a rational discussion on immigration. Forth, let some of the good ones back in as guest workers with a path to citizenship.

Proud American

People who are here with out papers are not felons. Crossing the border with out inspection is a civil offense, not a criminal one. We are not simply talking about illegals, they are human beings. Most of these people hold anywhere from one to three jobs, pay their taxes, and contribute to the betterment of their local community.

WELCOME

Welcome to any one who dares to dream the American dream. Be strong, educate yourself, and prosper. Ignore those nay sayers whom would have you believe the sky is falling, and follow the example of previous immigrants who dared to dream the American dream and achieved greatness in our land.

win

The really said part is U.S. citizens don't mind immigration, we are against illegal immigration.

If there weren't so many illegal immigrants, including marching for their "right" to citizenship, if our government, and various other political factions weren't trying to shove this down our throat, if they people came into the country legally and treated us and our country with respect, we wouldn't be against us.

We are not against those legally here to give respect to us and our country, they are the reason we have an immigration policy, not our businesses, not our political parties, but just because we like the people.

At least that is the way it should be.

Dick

The American people have worked hard to earn the SS money they can retire on. I don't appreciate my hard earned money being given away. I did not earn a free ride and neither should anyone else. My kids have worked hard so they can retire and there wont be any if we keep adding free loaders to the system.

Gwen

The border will never be closed with the current elected officials. The bill needs to separate the issues of the border and legalization of 12 million illegal people. Plain and simple,we have to secure our borders FIRST. Then after several years then and only then should we consider the rights of illegals currently in OUR country.

Make no mistake about how we feel as AMERICANS. We are NOT okay with this. This bill was crafted behind closed doors. Doesn’t that ring a bell??

I feel very strongly on the issue of the immigration reform bill. This bill is being railroaded to the American public without any strong opposition. The borders are not closed and will not be closed with the current administration. We already have 12 million "ILLEGALS" in this country and more to come if this leglislation is passed. I lived in San Diego for many years before coming to Florida and I am very aware of the huge problem that is facing this country.

win

Crossing the border without papers is a federal offense. Invalid Social Security, Fake ID, are fraud, usually a felony.

"We are not simply talking about illegals, they are human beings."

We are human beings. Our rights should count more in this country. Our voice should count more.

"Most of these people hold anywhere from one to three jobs ...

We are told "they are in the shadows." If they are in the shadows we don't know what most are doing. We do not know how many illegal aliens are here. Estimates are between 12 and 20 million. Once legal, family members can come here. Family is about anyone related to you in anyway in immigration law.

A loophole allowed this bill to avoid the environmental impact statement required by law. Think about what a massive increase in population does for roads, schools, pollution, land going to housing, water shortages, air quality, more garbage.

Legal Immigrant

All those who feel this bill to be scaped should volunteer to join the border patrol. go and signup. they are not finding enough agents to fill these positions.

HH

USA is a built on strong immigration foundation and values. Don't turn this country xenophobic. Try to learn and respect other countries' values. The current arrogance of USA being a superpower will pull it down in the long term. Remember - What goes around comes around!!

win

Contrary to the views of those that are for amnesty being against amnesty for illegal aliens is not the definition of
xenophobic, racist, nativist or other terms with negative connotations.

As far as joining up with the border control, the borders of this country though are one of the very few reasons I would serve in a capacity where you carry a weapon.

Grumpy

EB3: You sound like the type of immigrant that any Western nation would be glad to have. You do yourself a great disservice when you group yourself with an illiterate Mexican prostitute who got knocked up, snuck across the border to have her baby at US taxpayer expense, then stayed and applied for welfare, food stamps, housing assistance...

Please consider

Please for a moment and stop thinking only about yourself. I would say a greater problem than immigration in our country is its entitlement mentality. Have you ever considered where these people are coming from? What would you do if you were in the same situation? Furthermore, the fact that you are an American is pure luck you could just as easily been born in Sudan. You have no God given right to be American. My guess is that many of you against this bill are also for lower taxes and would be opposed to increase aide to other countries. What do you expect this people to do? It's time we stopped being so nationalistic and start being more humanitarian. Lastly, a fence is not going to do much good. Most illegal immigrants didn’t sneak across the border, they came here legally on a legal tourist visa and simply overstayed. Why are we wasting so much money on a stupid fence?

ORLY

Damn illegals. Thats the problem, the illegals use up all our tax money!!!! Less we forget there is a war going on where people are killed everyday and its putting our country in debt. Who allows this? Why Mr. President, thank you for diverting attention once again; you are a great magician. I mean rly, you have a WAR going on, people are dieing; many families are mourning, You are s****ing tax money, like you have diareah, on this war- but its those immigrants who hurt this country.
Immmigrants are going to continue to come, regardless. Best bet is to speed up the process so they can be here legally. F**k your H-2 guestworker programs. Guestworker programs are just a joke.

Concerned Citizen

We say that illegal aliens are "taking U.S. jobs" but what is it that makes Americans any better than the illegal aliens? We aren't doing a good job deporting them, and as long as there is incentive to come, they will come. No one wants to "reward lawbreakers", but if we open up legal channels to come to the U.S. we can serve the needs of both America and these illegal aliens.

EB3

If illegals are not contributing to ss & medicare. First make them do that.
If they are already here, slap on a visa & get taxes to support the community.

Just sayin'

Legal Resident

The problem with any of these proposals comes with the Taxpayer Funded Benefits. So long as people can get a free ride, this argument will continue.

People are nostalgic about immigration but fail to realize that immigration and welfare don't mix.

Dump the welfare system then let anyone in that wants to come. If they can't make it, they will leave. That is how it was until the 1960s when the Taxpayer got the task of feeding, clothing, and housing everyone.

Renee

If America doesn't open their eyes and ears now. Look at the big picture. The Government is being secretive on the Immagration. All they are doing is letting another Country take over our "FREE" Country. I really don't like the bill, because if it passes or not, the "Illegal Aliens" are still going to come no matter what our Laws states. They know the "GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT ANYWAY" that's why they are over powering our Government and Country. Is America ready for another revolution or civil war.
If America doesn't open their eyes they are going to find themselves in the middle of a war on our soil. When we write our Government or call them, they don't want to hear the "REAL AMERICANS VOICES" unless they are for it.
The Government does not want the borders closed because they want one world Government.If you really love your Country and want to stand up for it come out of the shadows and together we stand, the better our Country will be.

Richard K

Amnesty by any other name is still amnesty. Who really expects any enforcement?

Concerned Citizen2

Most individuals would prefer to stay in their birth countries. There are push/pull factors that many opponents are blind to around here.

The US supports many companies to go abroad and exploit the labor, and the enviroment. The US supports governments which allows US companies and interests to take advantage of the poor in these countries. Small Farms are being overtaken by US Aggricultural forces. Many rural people are having to move to the city to fight for the limited jobs. These are the illegal aliens the poor individuals that sometimes cross not one but several borders to come to the United States to find sometype of economic stability for their families.

win

Mexico needs to clean up its own economy and we need to clean up ours.

The second richest person in the world is a Mexican. He overtook Buffet and is close behind Gates, the first richest this year. A large amount of this was made post NAFTA.
http:/www.forbes.com/business/2007/04/11/billionaires-helu-telecom-biz-...

Outraged

If this passes, God Bless (what used to be) America!!! As a 20 year veteran of this country I will feel betrayed by our so called leaders. It's time for a good third party candidate! One that has nothing to gain but the respect of the people that vote him in!

Joe Zimmerman

This is perhaps the most poorly designed piece of legislation in the last eight years, especially if you are an AMERICAN! Discounting all of the immigrant rhetoric, this bill provides for (1)border enforcement personnel only if we have the money,(2)all of the construction must be completed within 2 years of the the enactment of the bill, (3)a biometric database for ALL AMERICANS, (4)no provisions for those 3rd country nationals who overstay their visit to the US,(5) a southern border study that will take 2 years itself, (5) a Firearms Trafficking Action plan with Canada and ONLY a feasibility study of the same plan with Mexico. This is ridiculous and this bill must be scrapped and sent back to the PEOPLE!

Stop the Insanity

First, I love immigrants. The country was founded by immigrants.

Second, I am not a republican or a democrat. I'm in the middle.

Finally, I think this bill is a terrible idea. Granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants who broke the law and are a burden to the system is just plain wrong and unfair.

Instead, let's secure the borders, make immigration easier for those who want to come and stay, and let the illegal immigrants apply to work here legally via their country of origin.

As a temporary solution, grant all existing illegal immigrants TEMPORARY work visas. After a few years, they will have to return home to apply for a more permanent work visa or citizenship if they want.

but please, no amnesty.

I am against this bill and the "Z" visa.

tofuish

If this bill is passed, we are just one step closer to National ID's. This bill will allow an influx of immigrants into the country, giving the government the excuse it needs to force National ID's in order for citizens to work.

Jose Jiminez

Chu kan peek yur hown dam ledduz & cabbheg gringos!

NAWER

Please sign this petition to Congress against Amnesty and Guestworker for Illegal Aliens

http://www.newsbull.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=45563

Educate yourself first.

Many of the people leaving negative comments should read and educate themselves prior to posting. This country was made by immigrants many of them here fleeing injustice and poverty like today's immigrants.

PRAGMATO

FOR ALL THOSE CRITICIZING THIS BILL, CAN U PROPOSE A PRACTICAL AND REALISTIC SOLUTION TO THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS OF THIS COUNTRY??

Legal

guys if breaking a law, you need to send all those illegals out of US,. then think of how many people break the law (DUI) driving under influence. The punishment for DUI is 2 months to 2 years in jail. At this rate the whole of US will be in jail. except for the legal immigrants who have just arrived.

Everyone shud look at this with a humane heart.

To speak the truth after reading the Bill, only the government is making some profit out of this Bill. the illegals its a bad deal for them. $5000 times 12 million = 60 Billion. imagine how much more. this can probably fund a 50 foot tall fence between US and Mexico.

legal immigrant

guys if breaking a law, you need to send all those illegals out of US,. then think of how many people break the law (DUI) driving under influence. The punishment for DUI is 2 months to 2 years in jail. At this rate the whole of US will be in jail. except for the legal immigrants who have just arrived.

Everyone shud look at this with a humane heart.

To speak the truth after reading the Bill, only the government is making some profit out of this Bill. the illegals its a bad deal for them. $5000 times 12 million = 60 Billion. imagine how much more. this can probably fund a 50 foot tall fence between US and Mexico.

S

I am a member of Immigration Voice – a group that represents legal skilled immigrants.

We oppose the senate’s immigration bill in its current form.

The bill reduces the number of green cards for legal skilled immigrants and

diverts those green cards to future guest workers program and to untested merits based system.

We request senate to increase the number of green cards for legal skilled immigrants in the current backlogs

and fix the backlogs first before starting a new merits based system.

We urge the Senator to amend the section 501(b) and increase the number of green cards for

legal skilled immigrants from 140,000 to a higher number to eliminate the current backlogs the same way

the bill reduces backlogs for family-based immigrants in section 501(a).

legal immigration

I am a member of Immigration Voice – a group that represents legal skilled immigrants.
We oppose the senate’s immigration bill in its current form.

The bill reduces the number of green cards for legal skilled immigrants and diverts those green cards to future guest workers program and to untested merits based system.

We request senate to increase the number of green cards for legal skilled immigrants in the current backlogs and fix the backlogs first before starting a new merits based system

raj

This bill has totally overlooked high skilled legal immigrants.
1. Reduce green card quota from 140k to 90K.
2. without addressing backlog, they proposed horrible point system
3. They are granting green card to 12 millions illegal and they have no per country cap. Employment and Family based will have 10% per country cap.
4. Person came here legally and maintain legal status trough out have family members not having work permit. under dream act, kids illegal alien will get green card in three years. While kids (more than 21 years) of high skilled legal immigrant will never get green card.
Big injustice to high skilled legal immigrants. "US is no more heaven for best and brightest but heaven for illegals.

prdgl

I am a high-skilled immigrant living in this country for more than 5 years. I was given education here and started working like any other people.

Lately, its becoming really difficult to live peacefully with all the uncertainities in immigration that's happening. I have been waiting in line LEGALLY for very long time in the process of Permenant Residency and nothing seems to happen yet.

Even the most simplest decisions in life is very difficult because everything is based on the immigration provisions and law.

Even after we obey the laws, pay taxes on time and contribute for the greater advancement of this nation we are not given the basic rights as an important contributor to this nation.

I kindly urge you to help pass some provisions that will make our lifes little easier

dont_mess_up_america

Call lawmakers and oppose this bill.

Raj Sivaraj

Dear Everyone.

It's so disappointing that the bill has made me worthless. I have been here in US user legal immigration visa for 6 years and have MS. This bill do not address the issues in immigration for us, the tax payer, law abiding Highly Skilled LEGAL immigrants. It has rather made our lives miserable. I see that illegals are treated great for thier vote bank , but how can these lawmakers take our bread and give to those people. I was proud to be in this country for it's clean system and technology, now I see bad politics dancing for the illegal votes. I am neutral to the illegals but Law Makers please respect the educated law abiding people like me. - www.immigrationvoice.org

Jenny

My husband as a principal greencard applicant has lived in the U.S.A for 12 years. He got his PHD degree in the States and is a professor now. After years of waiting as legal immigrants, our green cards are still not in the sight. Now all the illegals are allowed to get green cards in five years. How ironic it is! Breaking the law, asking your fellow people breaking the law, and then you can change the law favor of you! That is a message the U.S.A. is sending by this ridiculous bill.

dont_mess_up_america

to Joe DeSchryver - "I can't find anywhere in this bill where an American Citizen can file a complaint against a suspected employer for having hired an illegal alien or displaced an American worker. Where are the remedies for the people who abide by the law?"

because if this bill gets passed, there would be no illegals. Everybody is legal in this country, and you have nowhere to complain.

Trimbak

It's so disappointing that the bill has made me worthless. I have been here in US user legal immigration visa for 9 years and have Masters. This bill do not address the issues in immigration for us, the tax payer, law abiding Highly Skilled LEGAL immigrants. It has rather made our lives miserable. I see that illegals are treated great for thier vote bank , but how can these lawmakers take our bread and give to those people. I was proud to be in this country for it's law and order and high value of honeshty, hard work and technology industry, now I see bad politics dancing for the illegal votes. I am neutral to the illegals but Law Makers please respect the educated law abiding people like me.

Dhaval C

Dear Everyone.

It's so disappointing that the bill has made me worthless. I have been here in US user legal immigration visa for 6 years and have MS. This bill do not address the issues in immigration for us, the tax payer, law abiding Highly Skilled LEGAL immigrants. It has rather made our lives miserable. I see that illegals are treated great for thier vote bank , but how can these lawmakers take our bread and give to those people. I was proud to be in this country for it's clean system and technology, now I see bad politics dancing for the illegal votes. I am neutral to the illegals but Law Makers please respect the educated law abiding people like me. - www.immigrationvoice.org

DPP

It is very disappointing that this bill is not having any reliefs for legal high skilled immigrants struck in ever-ending backlogs.

First clear all backlogs and give GCs for all legal high skilled immigrants and then discuss on illegals.

This bill gives the meaning that it is better to be illegal than legal. We legal immigrants renew visas every year, paying all medical, SS, fedaral, state, county taxes. Fist give some relief to them by giving GCs right away and then control the border, discuss on existing illegals.

May be it is the time for us (legals) to try to be illegal so that we get the GC in fast track.

Dr Reddi

I am MD PhD and struck up in green card backlog. After reading text of this proposed immigration bill, I ashamed with myself as a high skilled legal immigrant. My family and I want to be a illegal immigrant so that we all get Z status and my son, who is turning to 21 in 6 months do not loose his status !!
Do you think any worst situation???

Jay K

The current version of this bill,
does not have any provisions for
the legal immigrants. Infact, it
even makes the existing broken
system move backwards by decreasing
the 140K EB visa numbers to 90K.

Thanks
Jay

H

I am a member of Immigration Voice – a group that represents legal skilled immigrants.

We oppose the senate’s immigration bill in its current form.

The bill reduces the number of green cards for legal skilled immigrants and

diverts those green cards to future guest workers program and to untested merits based system.

We request senate to increase the number of green cards for legal skilled immigrants in the current backlogs

and fix the backlogs first before starting a new merits based system.

We urge the Senator to amend the section 501(b) and increase the number of green cards for

legal skilled immigrants from 140,000 to a higher number to eliminate the current backlogs the same way

the bill reduces backlogs for family-based immigrants in section 501(a).

Tushbush

It's so disappointing that the bill has made me worthless. I have been here in US user legal immigration visa for 5 years and have MS. This bill do not address the issues in immigration for us, the tax payer, law abiding Highly Skilled LEGAL immigrants. It has rather made our lives miserable. I see that illegals are treated great for thier vote bank , but how can these lawmakers take our bread and give to those people. I was proud to be in this country for it's clean system and technology, now I see bad politics dancing for the illegal votes. I am neutral to the illegals but Law Makers please respect the educated law abiding people like me. - www.immigrationvoice.org

high_skilled_legal

Politicians are politicians in any part of the world.
For politicians here in the US.
LEGAL = Who cares.
ILLEGAL = Welcome, please vote for me.

EB2

this bill sucks; rewards illegals and gives legals a very raw deal; this bill must be stopped at all costs; it is disaster for America...mark my words.

Marcus

First, immigration and social programs can work together. The US versions of social programs are a joke compared to Canada's and yet Canada allows in ~3-5 times the number of immigrants per capita as the US.

Second, deporting all illegal immigrants would have a devastating impact on the agricultural industry. Already the political climate is making it difficult for farmers in California to harvest their crops. So now either they go under and we import more fruit from Chile, Argentina and other latin countries or we willingly pay much more (ha!) for food. And if you think Americans are willing to do those jobs, where are they now that they're needed in California?

Finally, people need to realize that the larger part of this bill is a reform of the immigration system to bring it in to the 21st century. Skills and qualifications based immigration should be the primary means of assessment. There's much more here than "amnesty."

anindyam

I am trying to immigrate to this country legally. I have always had legal status, first as a grad student in a top 20 Engineering school and than as an employee of a Fortune 500 company(pay all taxes,Social S & Medicare). However, my greencard situation has been in a limbo for 4 years due to retrogression. I have been through the proposals of this Bill in details. It does nothing for the legal immigrants, but is trying to provide a easier path for illegals. In fact for people from India & China with high levels of skill in the employement based category it makes things worse tougher by reducing the annual quotas. The Bill in its current form is a sell out to vote-bank politics and is pandering to hispanics.

Disappointed

The bill in its current form is rewarding the people who 'broke the law' and punishing those who are trying to immigrate legally, especially the high skilled workers.

bobzibub

I am also disappointed that the bill leaves my wife and I high and dry by cutting the 140K spots down to 90K. Essentially, I've wasted thousands on lawyer's fees and wasting my company's time on USCIS's scheme for a green card. Looks like we may have to re-apply under a whole new bureaucracy that will come down the pipe in a couple years. How will the rules change then??

I don't begrudge people that try to escape poverty in Mexico. Especially when agriculture is subsidized by rich countries, and that drives agricultural wages down in the poor ones.

But for me, of all the things I miss since coming to the "land of the free", I miss my freedom most.

SKY

We are always told, "Break the law, and you will be in trouble". But,
the recent "Immigration Reform Grand Bargain" proposes to send a
message that is precisely the opposite.

We are being told that no undocumented immigrant will get ahead of
those in backlog. While the backlog of Family-based petitions has been
highly publicized, the petitions of individuals (engineers,
scientists, doctors and other professionals) are being left in legal
and bureaucratic limbo. About half-a-million highly qualified
professionals and their families have put their faith in the legal
immigration system and due process of the United States, while working
to enhance the US economy. These people have pending petitions either
with the Department of Labor, or with the CIS, the final adjudication
of which will enable them to continue working with a US employer.

SKY

In the current system, employment-based petitions are limited to
140,000 per year, but the proposed system, 'in order to reduce
backlog', reduces them to 90,000 per year only! On the contrary,
Family-based cases used to be limited to similar numbers, but now have
been increased to 567,000 per year! In addition, close to 100,000 of
these applicants with pending petitions are being asked to start from
scratch in the new system. In effect, it is similar to changing the
'rules' or rather, the 'Laws' after the fact! Innocent high-skilled
prospective immigrants are being penalized due to bureaucratic delay
in the DOL.

SKY

Highly skilled doctors, scientists, engineers, and computer
professionals have been stuck in backlogs since the last 3-4 years.
They had hoped to get relief from the "Immigration Reform", but have
been let down badly. They are being forced to renew their H-1Bs yearly
now, while the old system allowed 3-yr incremental renewals while
their Green Card petition was pending. Seems like a fitting reward for
following the Laws, isn't it?

SKY

Individuals, who have played by the rules, need to be treated fairly
even though their actual numbers are much less when compared to the
undocumented. There needs to be a timely process to resolve all
pending employment-based petitions within a reasonable time frame.
Immigration Reform is sorely needed. But, the present compromise is
very unwieldy and unworkable for high-skilled individuals.

Mike

I'm disappointed to see Folks who came here LEGALLY and waiting in line for 7/8/9+ years due to retrogression are totally left out in this, In short we can call this "Comprehensive ILL-LEGAL Immigrants Rescue Law"

This is certainly not in the interest of the nation, rather in the interest of taking the White House back from Republicans using the ILL-LEGAL Immigrants votes (Future USA Citizen Votes)

Dan.

I respect legal immigrants who are educated and skilled as America is land of immigrants (By father is Polish and my Mom is British and I am American). Educated people for sure put us first among advanced countries and quality of living is better and crime rates are less and economy becomes predictable! Saying a BIG no to this Bill.

Jack

All RIGHT WING PROUD AMERICANS::

Please elect Lou Dobbs as the next US President...

He will cure everything..

Every Amrican will be employed as ALL WILL SERVE the US ARMY fighting Iran, Iraq, Syria, North Korea, China & every other nation in sight including Mexico.

This will make you all happy

vineet anand

illegals who sneaked in to US gets legalized for their act for just $5000 as fine and high skilled Workers who pays taxes on an average 20K/year would be force to leave and live in uncertinaty sice they have to waiting for green cards for 5-7 year and under new proposal they have to wait 10-12 years to clear backlog. What a mess US Senate is, i dont see any reason why we should not become illegal and stop paying taxes and who know in next 5-7 years we might also be rewarded permenant residency for few bucks.
GOD BLESS AMERICA...... from this senate

immigrationvoice.com member

this bill does injustice to legal immigrants. no relief whatsoever. illegal immigrants are awarded more provisions. also family based immigration has lot more quota. what happened to all the promises from congressmen to bring in best and brightest from the world? severe injustice for the legal immigrants.

JKO

I have been in this country for 9 years waiting for the green card for the past 5 years. I have paid my dues, and have been a model citizen. And I have spent some of the most productive years of my life here. When I came here there was no fine print saying "Welcome (for 6 years only, we really dont want you to stay)". I also happen to be on a senior level so I get to hire for some positions. Only foreigners show up for interviews. So for people who tell me to go back because I am taking their job, I would say why dont you look in the mirror and be honest for once. I am not taking your job, I am qualified to do that job. You did not even apply. And give me back my 9 years and I'll go home

Is there any American Citizen here?

After reading this proposed bill, I can not help crying. My husband earned a PHD degree from one of top USA universities. We have lived here for 10 years. Now our green cards applications have been stuck in FBI for more than two years. We are told by the FBI has a huge name check backlog. While our cases pending, as a dependent applicant, I can not work. Our life is totally on hold. I don’t see anything regarding improving legal immigrants’ lives in this proposed bill. The only thing they debate on is giving visas without any quote to illegal immigrants. Is there any American citizen here? I don’t understand as such a group of sympathetic people, who want to legalize those who are illegal, why don’t you do something for us legal immigrants? Everything I heard is that we legal immigrants steal citizens’ jobs despite the fact when we apply for green cards, there are strict (almost impossible) rules requiring proof that no American citizens are qualified for that job!

John Gianetti

If this bill is passed it will destroy the US forever.Most of these illegals are felons,drug addicts,rapists,child molestors.If they love the US so much why dont they learn English and try to assimilate rather than hanging on to there values which are comparable to a rabid animal.How about all the citizens take a day off to protest this travesty.

Legal8PlusYears

I am member of www.immigrationvoice.org

1. I am in this country for 8+ years legally and paying all the taxes.
2. I work for fortune 100 company as high skilled professional.
3.My wife is a CPA and could not work all these years since my green card is pending. She is terribly dejected.
4. I have two kids who are US citizens and are not willing to re-locate to my home country.
5. Even a simple decision is life is difficult to take for all legal immigrants.
6. This bill reduces the green card alloted to legals and gives it ot ILLEGALS. This will push the backlog for LEGALS further several years.

last but not least, the message sent by AMERICA is: "WELCOME ILLEGALS, AND NOT LEGALS"

GOD BLESS AMERICA.

MP

This bill in it's current form is not helping the high skilled employment based immigrats like me at all for green card processing although 1/2 million people like me are waiting for this under current law for 3 to 7 years. This bill will put 11 to 12 million undocumented workers in better position then we are, even though we followed the law and they broke that.

Tired of being legal

This feels so surreal. I cannot believe that people who have followed the rules, assimilated into this culture and felt honored to contribute to this vibrant economy have been totally sidelined. This 'SHAMNESTY' bill is a slap in the face of all 'LEGAL' immigrants. I cannot say more since I am shell-shocked.

Pan Shevchenko

Vitalij Kasyanchuk, 21 is a citizen of Ukraine. Summer 2006 he went to USA as a student and didn't come back, now he is illigal emigrant.
He lives in Chicago, Illinois. His cell-phone is 1-7739779708. He is wanted by a ukrainian police. He commits a very grave crime
Criminal Investigation Department and Federal Security Service of Ukraine look for him.
If you can find him or know what service seeks for illigal emigrants please take strong measures to deport him to Ukraine.

SHAMNESTY Opponent

Is this a dream or is this real? The U.S. Congress is bent on destroying this country.
I know deporting the illegal aliens is not an option but by implementing tougher fines and sanctions on employers, these people will self deport. It shouldn't be such a big deal since it's a matter of implementing an 'existing' law.

Sen

This immigration bill is unfair to Highly skilled immigrants like me. It doesn't do any good thing to people who statyed all the years legally and paid all the taxes properly and also contributed for US economy.This is really criticising and I am totally disappointed about this bill!!

jkays

@Pan Shevchenko

If the individual is indeed wanted, Interpol should have a warrant on him and the local authorities should be able to pick him up on that alone not immigration violations.

Jim

Hi,
I wish law makers will understand the ordeal that legal immigrants are going through. Please be humane, hope the visa numbers will be increased so that the backblock will be reduced.
Thanks,
Jim

Jim

This bill is against the legal immigrants who are in this country for a long time and trying to get green card

my2cents

Why are the politicians pandering to Hispanics? Do they even realize that in a few years, they won't have the option of ENGLISH anymore? Are they willing to switch to SPANISH (full time)? Do they realize that due to this SHAMNESTY, they're going to transform this country into a HISPANIC country? That's a scary thought since majority of HISPANICS are low-skilled and live in squalor. They do not assimilate and want to impose their culture on us.

Dr. Reddi

American Citizen, please wake up and oppose amnesty to 12 millions illegals. Democrats are more than happy to give 12 millions green card to law braker illegals but don't want to give half million green card to high skilled legal, who contribute to economy, pay taxes and play by rules. Employment and Family based legal immigration system have 10% per country quota in the name of diversity. while 12 millions illegals have no per country cap (Where is diversity!!!)This bill will kill US competativeness and economical leadership.

Calculations

12 MM offically means 20 MM unofficially illegal immigrants... They will bring at least 5... So that means 100MM population increase in next 5-10 yrs...

Now 33% of america is brown,by another 5 yr that will be 50%... No one will learn English for sure and no one will pay $5000 for sure..

They have a big Lobby and they are VOTE BANKS... we Legal Immigrants are minority and no one cares for us now.

Proud American

Can we all agree that these illegals from south of the border will be considered poor by U.S. definition. Well guess who will be paying for their livelihood from cradle to the grave. You got it. You are. As long as they perform poor in school, have large family sizes they will continue to be a drain on the public assistance. One good thing though, is because the illegals extended family will be in the U.S. now, there will be less money going south of the border.

renee

I have done my homework and found out that John Deere does make a wide arrange of Harvesting Equipment including cabbage, lettuce and tomatoes and even grapes. We do not need illegal Mexicans to "slave" in the fields, we have machines to do their job.

jigs

SOMEBODY HERE SAID THAT ANYONE WHO IS AGAINST THIS BILL SHOULD PROPOSE A BILL. WELL I AM A LEGAL SKILLED IMMIGRANT AND HERE ARE SOME SENSIBLE PROPOSALS:
1. Create an employment verification system. Every employer will be required to verify the employee's eligibility against this system. This should not be a big deal for a technologically advance country like US. Employers failing to comply this should be fined heavily. This will ensure that there are no jobs for illegal people here and since there are no jobs for illegals no one would want to come here illegal.
2. There is already a guest worker program for low-skilled workers Have department of labor research how many of these type of worker needed and expand the program only if department of labor finds it that more workers are needed.

Jigs

3. No Employer can employ have more than 30% of workers on H1-B. This will ensure that outsourcing companies like infosys, TCS do not HOG H1 and visas are available for genuine companies like Microsoft and Oracle. If this happens no more than 50000 H1 visas will be needed.
4. US citizen / permanent residents can only sponsor spouse and children. If you want to reunite with your family, go back to the country where you came from; no body is stopping you. Temporarily increase the family immigration visa number to eliminate the current backlog.
5. For skilled immigrants, eliminate spouse and children from counting against visa cap. Keep the visa numbers to the same level of temporary visa (e.g. H1) issues for skilled worker each year and remove the country cap. This will ensure that each skilled immigrant will be able to receive the green card in time if they want to be permanent reside (right now there is 7-8 years wait time).

Will any law maker read these comments?

Legalize illegal immigrants will make USA a HISPANIC country soon. Secure border program will be a JOKE. They don’t have to ride donkeys to cross the border; they can use trucks, cargos, that’s more efficient and there is no way for those border guards to check every vehicle across the border. A small part of them will be caught and send back, but they will try it again next day.

This bill is a piece of perfect BS. Will they dumb enough to let it pass like that?

renee

If the Government wasn't making it easy for the illegals to come here. If you have noticed every time you buy it has 2 languages or call you have to push 1 or 2. We need to keep the ENGLISH LANGUAGE ONLY.
The Government is too soft "womanly" they don't want to hurt people feelings. What happened to the hardcore Government.
If someone across a border to another Country and MARCH in their streets to DEMAND CITIZENSHIP, they wouldn't do what USA GOVERNMENT IS DOING. Why do we need Border Patrols on South Border! When they do their job, they go to jail.
We need a third party to run, but the Government has made it hard for a Independent to run for office. We have a 2 party system. When the bill passes goodbye to our country, the Democrates only care for everyone and not the "REAL AMERICANS".
Our Government doesn't stand up for their own people. It's all about money, power, and competition. The USA is going down fast, and the other countries will not help us.

Viorel Lapping

Spend a lot of money for nothing?

That`s meen that I have spend $5000 for Lawyer, $1275 for 2 Ads in the Newspaper, next Monday will apply my Lawyer the I-140 with $1000 premium processing + 195 filing fee, all this for nothing, because this 21 May 2007?????

My PERM was Certified at 05/16/2007, PD 04/30/2007.

Now I must apply once again in this merit point system???

Thats really not ok. The lawmakers can says that the DOL and USCIS will not accept application from the date when the CIR will be official Law, perhaps in october, I don`t know.
But for people who have allready a certified Perm and a pending or approved I-140, shell becomes the GC. Sorry for my bed english, I`m from Germany.

Eswara

This is the worst ever Immigration bill I had ever seen So far. The law makers have no idea what problems we are facing with current Employment based immigration. Instead of resolving the issues they made further issues to us. The backlogs will still increases as quota for EB petitions is reduced. NOw point based system is introduced, which will further increase the backlog. Law makers, please think before you ACT.

Legal Immigrant screwed by Racist democrats

This is crazy bill as it stands..
Democratic leadership is dancing on the graves of hard-working, patient and legal immigrant.
RACIST democratic leaders and RACIST anti-immigrants are signing ANATHOER "ASIAN EXCLUSION LAW"
I am indian citizen waiting for past 10 yrs , legally in this country, 3 different employers so far went thro' million hoops to prove to INS that my high-tech skills are needed and INS approved the petition.. NOW due to my national origin I will be forced to wait endlessly while hispanic illegals get preference..
IF THAT IS NOT RACIST .. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS..

PaidNWait

Being a legal immigrant that has paid its way through a US college, hardworking on an H1-B visa since 2002, paid filing fees and approved for a Green Card in 2005, and since waiting to be able to apply for "Adjustment of Status" to become an alien resident, feel like I am the stupidest of all that I've paid approximately 55K to the US government, while I could have just come here illegally and now just pay $5000 and be legal without any hazzle of proving that I'm healthy, intelligent, a non-criminal, have money, etc. I may as well shoot myself!

Legal Immigrant

I am in this country for 6+ years legally and paying all the taxes. US senate and democratic leadership don’t know what the difference between Legal and illegal. With this bill they are forcing legal immigrants to become illegal.

legal_tech

This bill is a huge injustice to the American people and LEGAL immigrants.
People who are waiting her for almost a decade legally are required to wait more henceforth in favor of low skilled illegal immigrants.God Help America!

J C Zimmerman

The solution is simple. In order for a baby to automatically become a citizen in the US, one parent MUST already be a US citizen. Our illegal population would be significantly reduced over night!

Tar

I am IT professional working with a top US company. I completed my Advanced Degree from one of the top US schools two years back. When I looked at current CIR bill in Senate, I am really disappointed as there is no provision for Advanced Degree Holders in STEM from US schools. Even in new point system, there are no special treatment for US educated professionals. I am from India and I have recently seen many students going to countries like Canada/UK/Australia for higher education as those countries offer better and quicker options to settle down after completing studies. Many of my classmates are becoming frustrated in the delays getting their green cards and many have already applied for immigration to other countries. I would urge you to do something concrete in current immigration reform bill about advanced degree holders as this is going to impact decisions of thousands of talented individuals whether to invest significant time and money for US education.

Tar

I am IT professional working with a top US company. I completed my Advanced Degree from one of the top US schools two years back. When I looked at current CIR bill in Senate, I am really disappointed as there is no provision for Advanced Degree Holders in STEM from US schools. Even in new point system, there are no special treatment for US educated professionals. I am from India and I have recently seen many students going to countries like Canada/UK/Australia for higher education as those countries offer better and quicker options to settle down after completing studies. Many of my classmates are becoming frustrated in the delays getting their green cards and many have already applied for immigration to other countries. I would urge you to do something concrete in current immigration reform bill about advanced degree holders as this is going to impact decisions of thousands of talented individuals whether to invest significant time and money for US education.

senora

i love this proposed bill! i cannot wait to have it approved. long live america!

i-entered-us-legally-why-am-i-punished

The bill reduces the number of green cards available to technical people on H1B, which pushes the timeline for getting a green card further by several years, a process which is anyway retrogressed. The bill says NO GREEN card for people who have been patiently waiting in the queue for several years. Asking many of us to restart the process once again. This Bill would force America's one of most educated, skillful and law abiding force to either move back to their own countries or apply for immigration in some other nations. Given the contribution this force makes to the US economy and society, it is loose-loose situation for the legally entered H1b immigrants as well as USA.The bill in its current form is totally unacceptable to H1B community and I urge to introduce an ammendment to fix the process that has been retrogressed for years and allow people in H1B to apply 485(Adjustment of status).

illegal_preferred_over_legal_immigrants

I like many other H1B visa holder are paitently waiting in queue for a green card but they will not allow us to get one. With the process retrogressed and all kinds of regulations we abide by patiently and paying around 43% of our income in taxes (28% federal + 10% california + SSN + ..) we law abiding people cannot get a green card. I wish I had entered the country illigally, but unfortuanately my conscience would never allow it. Just unbelievable that illegal is preferred over legals.

Leigh Plimmer

This bill gives preference to illegal immigrants over skilled legal immigrants who have been pursuing legal immigration for many years (8+ years in our case). You cannot ignore 12 million people who are here illegally nor is it realistic to think that these people can be rounded up and shipped over the border. However comprehensive reform is required & workable solutions need to be implemented in all areas of the immigration system including highly skilled and family categories. Politicians need to cut out the rhetoric and for once work together to find sensible solutions for all that will benefit the US.

Garry

Us is known for attracting and retaining best and brightest talent of the world. This policy made US most competative nation in the world since 100 years.
With this bill, I think our lawmakers have started diging grave of "US competativeness"
World will recieve wrong message with this bill
"Now US will be the heaven for illegal people"

May God give sense to our lawmakers!!

Joseph

I have a Phd in Math and a Masters in CS and have been waiting for my green for 4 yrs now. Maybe i should just burn my degrees and mow some lawns instead and Kennedy may personally deliver my green card.
I feel sorry for this great country....this is the beginning of the end of an empire...the American people have to wake up and stop this travesty...

Not sure whats the fuss about???

I am a legal IT worker with green card in process. I took some pain to go through the Bill 1348S and see that the green card numbers are being increased.. Check out this link - http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c110:10:./temp/~c110bNxDhL:e440096:

dont understand whats this fuss about

I am a legal IT worker and have green card in progress. I took some pain to go through Bill 1348S and see that the green card number is being increased to 450K.

Not sure whats this fuss about

Check out this link - http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c110:10:./temp/~c110bNxDhL:e440096:

Not sure whats the fuss about???

Can someone clarify where is it written that the green card number is being reduced to 90K? Pardon my ignorance.

Illegals are VoteBanks - But legals are Not

Simple Political equation - Illegals are treated First because thay are fast growing Votebanks - we legals are not. That's why illegals get AMNESTY and Legals get PUNISHED.

I had great respect for American Politicians - I can't imagine they can chalk out something like this.

Legal Visa Fees increasing 8 Times ??

Recently some Senator proposed the idea of Punishing LEGAL H-1B immigrants who are HIGH-SKILLED by increasing the Fees from $1,500 to $11,500.

They are saying that the extra money will be used to provide scholarship to American Citizens who will Pursue Career in SCIENCE TECH,ENGG,MATHEMATICS !!

GC number increased for FB , not for EB

GC numbers increased for FAMILY based Greencards(FB) because Democrats are too much Kind about Family values...

But High-skilled Employment based GC's (EB) is reduced from 140K to 90K.

This category brings maximum value to America but they are small in numbers so their FAMILY is not of any importance to Politicians.

Legals are Made to Pay for Illegal's Cost

On the Surface it says that 8 times H1B cost increase will be used for scholarship for americans in STEM...

But the reality is this Money will Probably be used to Provide AMNESTY to 20 MM Illegals - because they will never pay $5000 fine , so Legals are made to do so ??

What s Justice !!

FROM THE IMMIGRANTS

YOU MAY HAVE SKIPPED YOUR "HISTORY
CLASS" IF YOU EVER HAD A CHANCE TO GO TO SCHOOL 'CAUSE WHAT YOU NEED TO DO NOW IS GO AHEAD LEARN YOUR HISTORY BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE FOREIGNERS AS THE UNIQUE IMMIGRANTS. CHECK THIS OUT: YOU TOO ARE IMMIGRANTS. IF YOU HAD STUDIED, YOU WOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE TERM "IMMIGRANTS" APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU AS WELL AS YOUR ANCESTORS HAVE BROUGHT YOU OVER.WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU NEED TO MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU!

Chad

Everyone saying 'THEY ARE A BURDEN' please stop. You have a horribly ignorant stance.

An illegal immigrant working in this country is usually paying taxes and putting money back into the local economy.. and guess what? since they're illegal they do not reap the benefits of the tax money they are paying into the system.

I've lived in a border community for 5 years. The 'problem' is ridiculously exaggerated, anyway.

Anyway, from a CONSERVATIVE site:

# Illegals also help the economy by purchasing American goods and services. They buy houses and cars and patronize the local Piggly Wiggly.

# Illegals pay taxes too - about $4,200 federal taxes on average per illegal household per year. Over 40% of this goes to Social Security and Medicare.

# Illegals are inspired by the American dream, just like many of the ancestors of today's American citizens. It is heartless to deny foreigners the ability to come to America and make better lives for themselves

is America still immigration country

When immigrants earn high wage, Americans say why not giving such good opportunity to citizens? When immigrants earn low wage, Americans say the immigrants bring down our wage level. When Americans are laid off, immigrants steal the jobs. When Americans get hired, immigrants take the better jobs. When Americans don't like to do the job, immigrants are brought in to do the job. When terrorists bombed the buildings, name check the immigrants. When Americans don't catch Bin Laden, blame the immigrants. You know what, if I were an American, I would never need to see the shrink. So American shrinks would complain, no, they would not because all the immigrants become their customers.

Americans, why bother h1b visa or whatever visa program, convince your politicians to close the door once and forever.

Gary

Senate compromized Immigration bill will grant 12 millions green card to illegals (law breakers!), Put restriction on H1B, cut green cards for high skilled legals. Citizens, please wake up, Our lawmaker said good by to future
Albert Einstein, Enrico Fermi, Andrew Carnegie, Ramani Ayer (Chairman and CEO of Hartford, a $18 billion company), Alain Belda (Chairman and CEO of Alcoa, a $21.5 billion company), Sergey Brin (Co-founder of Google), Andy Grove (Founder and Chairman of Intel), E. Neville Isdell (Chairman and CEO of Coca Cola), Vinod Khosala (co-founder of Sun Microsystems, a $11.4 billions company), Henry Mckinnell (Chairman and CEO of Pfizer), Pierre Omidyar (Founder and Chairman of e-bay)

count is increasing for employment based GC

SEC. 501. ELIMINATION OF EXISTING BACKLOGS.
`(A)(i) 450,000, for each of the fiscal years 2008 through 2017
`(ii) 290,000, for fiscal year 2018 and each subsequent fiscal year;

count is increasing for employment based GC

read for your self
1) Go to http://thomas.loc.gov/
2) Search Bill Text - 1348
3) Click on last item in result set which reads (Comprehensive Immigration Reform..)

count is increasing for employment based GC

4) look for link to section 501 (SEC. 501. ELIMINATION OF EXISTING BACKLOGS)
5) Click on it
6) Read the first two paras in that section.

QUESTION for IMMIGRATIONVOICE.ORG

Where in the bill did you read that Employment based GC count is reducing to 90K ???? I could not find anything

JS

As a UK citizen (see www.bbc.co.uk for our immigration issues), I would suggest that we divide it into 2 issues:
1. Skilled & Legal: should be made easier to live & work (with caveats to prevent abuse as currently occurs with Indian technology companies). Need to switch to skilled immigration to compete with London.
2. Illegals: If they are just drains on welfare, deport them. BUT, if they want to work and contribute, let them. Note that the bill requires $5000 fines for them to legalise, so presumably only those who were working hard could get that. Remember that these 12m are there anyway and it would be very hard to deport them, so if they will pay more in taxes than they need in welfare, make them citizens so they have to pay taxes. Illegal immigration isn't really as serious a felony as violent crime, surely?

Jiggy

Why is everybody talking about visa cuts only and not the provision that talks about eliminating the backlogs?

ej

Amnesty deals should be

OFF THE TABLE.

Amnesty simply means that the number of Illegals will double or triple. Various would be illegals are watching, how soft will America be, how big a bunch of stupidos ???

EJ

A NUMBER IS NEEDED.

WHAT NUMBER DO YOU HAVE IN MIND ??

WHAT NUMBER DOES YOUR CONRESSMAN HAVE ???

THERE ARE TOO MANY NOW.

WHAT NUMBER ???

????WHAT NUMBER OF IMIGRANTS???? SHOULD BE CONDONED ???????

SPEAK OUT.

Ta