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Visitor Comments
T. Daniels
This is mission-critical support for our troops, but the Dummycrats are doing their damndest to pull defeat from the jaws of victory.
conscious
yet more money for killing, why not feed the hungry
Mary
This is a LOT of money to be spending when we could be bringing our boys home.
Elliot Seltzer
I would be for a bill that clearly supported the military operation in Iraq, but this has been larded with pet projects for peanut farmer and broccoli growers and crap. Why can't Congress control itself and focus on the matter at hand, which is killing terrorists?
E WELLS
OUR TROOPS HAVE DONE THIER JOB THESE BRAVE PEOPLE ARE BEING USED TO SAVE BUSHS LEGACY HES GOT BLOOD ON HIS HANDS HE AND HIS SUPPORTERS SHOULD BE ASHAME OF THEMSELVES BRING THEM HOME NOW EVERYONE OF OUR MILITARY LEADERS ADMITS THIS CAN NOT BE WON ON THE BATTLEFIELD LEAVE NOW OR LATER SAME RESULTS
C
Shame on the Democrats for buying their votes with excessive spending. So much for a new Congress.
This bill is supported by cowards who don't have the moral conviction to seek an immediate withdrawl because they know it's political suicide - especially when the surge is working.
A good result in Iraq is the last thing that the Democrats want with 08' elections coming up - what kind of party wants America to lose the war?
melvin
I also agree that we need to bring our toops home, but this is not the way. I also heard all thourgh the last election cycle that the democrats were going to do a better job at spending our tax dollors. Quess right they were right $24 billion extra!!
SMH
I am against this bill only because
of all the additional crap that
was tacked on to it.
Judy
I think if they REALLY wanted to stop the insanity of Iraq, they should have not given one penny of taxpayer money for the troops there. Let bush use the millions of dollars being brought in from all the oil in Iraq like he SAID he would use when he first went in and took over the country! Taxpayer money is needed badly right here at home.
Rebecca
I don't think that any of us disagree that our troops need support and funds, the difference in opinion is what we should do in addition. I oppose this bill because it has a withdrawal time. My reasons for this are that the job may not be done by then. We need to look at what we're fighting for, the freedom of these Iraqis. We've made mistakes, but freedom is more important, and we need to let our soldiers know that. This isn't a lost cause! We need to send a message similar to the one written in the revolutionary war. (taken from 1776) "Your exertions in the cause of freedom, guided by wisdom and animated by zeal and courage, have gained you the love and confidence of your grateful countrymen....As I have the honor to be an American...I would pay the tribute of thanks, and express my gratitude, while I solicit you to continue in your present honorable and important station."
Ryan
According to the president, the job was done exactly 4 years ago today. Does no one else remember the "Mission Accomplished" speech on the aircraft carrier? Also, does no one else remember in the 2000 elections when Bush said that the US should not be involved in nation building. Also, where are the WMDs?
If Clinton had pulled this s***, he would have been impeached and out of office faster than the speed of light. I say bring the troops home now, you know, since their mission was accomplished 4 years ago. Then tomorrow we need to impeach Bush that lying sack of s***.
Ryan
In addition to my previous comment:
We should not be there forcing freedom on them. If they are not willing to fight for their own freedom, they do not deserve freedom. The only democracies that last are ones in which the people want it. Democracy cannot be imposed on people by an outside force, it does not work that way. Democracy and freedom require sacrifice and if the people are not willing to make those sacrifices, then democracy will fail. Iraq is in civil war, two different religious groups are fighting to subdue each other, we do not belong there. Democracy cannot be forced on these people, not by us. Not by anyone.
Rebecca
True, democracy cannot be forced, however we've seen that this is what the Iraqi's want, and so we ought to help them in their efforts. It requires sacrifice and they are making it and so should we. We cannot pull out until the job is finished. There is no assurance that the position will be stabilized when we leave. We need to be supporting the troops, saying that we respect the cause for which they are fighting. Have those who decide we should pull out the troops been with the generals in Iraq and asked them what they think the situation is? We should not have the politicians in Washington (or any of us really) deciding a critical issue such as this unless they have a full assessment of the situation.
Dan
Didn't we already see mission accomplished for this war of terror? Why are we spending more money on it?
Mike
The Generals don't want to stay. They don't think that the war can be won militarily.
When will the job be finished? We were told that it was when elections were held, but that happened already.
This is Vietnam all over again.
Ethan
We're not accomplishing anything in Iraq. Bush just wants to postpone the eventual implosion until after his term is over so they can blame it on the next administration, instead of taking the fall themselves for getting us into this useless mess. We all wind up paying for his pride -- tax payers with their money, troops with their lives. IMPEACH.
support our troops...
with a plane ride home from Iraq. End of story.
450,000,000,000 (for our mission in Ira) is the equivalent of 4,500 new elementry schools at 100,000,000 each.
Ask yourself what benefits the United States most?
Zed
The pork in this bill is amazing. I would be for it otherwise.
walt
Why should the federal government be building elementary schools?
Education isn't a Federal responsibility.
Morgan
We don't need a bill to support the troops.
Want to be truly American? Have the Senate filibuster any and all funding for this imperialistic war.
Back to the Constitution. Back to the Founding Fathers. Long live the American Republic! (Say NO to imperialism!)
Scott from Modesto
Since when are we fighting for freedom for the Iraqis?
I thought it was to find the nukes... no the wmds... no the weapons related program activities... no it was to get rid of Sadam... no it was the terrorists we let get away in Afghanistan.
Lets face the facts: whatever the real reason was for going there, the US Military WON THE WAR already---they went in and did their job and kicked the Republican Guard's ass in a matter of days.
Now we are stuck in the middle of their civil war and we are telling our troops to play nation building games.
There is a joke going around in Iraq: "Don't piss of America, otherwise it will punish you with democracy." If they really want us their, they should pay the bill. If they can't or won't, we should go.
Don't trust anyone
It doesn't matter if you're for or against the war.
The end result is just a transfer of money and freedom from ordinary folks to those in power.
Nothing new to see here.. now please move along.
Logic
This bill is just another distraction from the real issue in the world. China is advancing in a fast pace and the US is loosing ground while spending money on Grapes and Plums. Instead of pulling our head from Iraqi asses and educate our people we would rather give more money to politicians and their friends.
Our troops are being misstreated for someone elses agenda and they need to return back and get educated instead.
People are duying in Iraq everyday. At least don't let those people be American citizen.
Lily
Unrelated Bill Additions/Amendments should be a crime!
Eliminating government waste should start with voting out junk politicians who waste everyones time with pork and poison pill politics.
Andy
This is in responce to C's comment at the top.
The surge is not working. They have excluded car bombs from the list of violent attacks.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/26/764/
Bill Maher has even mentioned it on his show Real Time.
Its not working. We are loosing men and women who are now fighting Iraq's war. There was no clear reason why we went in to Iraq, but we need to get out.
Ed
Their people want peace, but they are so imbued with hate and violence that until that is addressed, they have no hope. Not in ten years or one hundred years or one thousand years. Not ever. I have seen little evidence that our military presence has brought us any closer to resolving this either. Any one supporting Bush's plan is sending our troops to their deaths. Can you tell me that pride of one "cowboy" is worth that? What we need is a change of course, and REAL plan, and not a dime more until that have one.
Dave
If my congressman walked up to me and said, "Hey, can I borrow $414.49?" And he promised it would get us out of Iraq sooner, but added, "Well, some other legislation... like helping out nut farmers, undercover IRS operations, and 'Expresses the sense of the Senate that Congress should repeal the 1993 tax increase on Social Security benefits'"
Expresses the sense? THAT'S NOT EVEN AN ACTION! Write your opinions in an op-ed, not on our legislation! Put tax laws in a tax bill. Put the minimum wage in a minimum wage bill. Put Agriculture in an agriculture bill.
No wonder the government is so messed up, they can't even organize their bills, and they want to organize a war?
My answer, NO!
Robert
So how much pork in this one.
Fun or Don't fund the troops, but get rid of all the bribes (sorry Extra "Funding") that goes to local states to buy (sorry "help approve" ) votes.
Old MSGT Bob
As a twenty year veteran I can tell you that the average dog soldier just wants to leave. They may feel bad about not getting anything done but in the end they'll get on that freedom plane if given a choice. If you want to support the troops and not some General who needs a job, then pull out now.
So that leaves only the polticians and other hot air specialists to complain about leaving early. Why should I care about anything that happens in Iraq, It does not affect me and never did. Iraq was not the promised hotbed of terrorisim until we made it one. Besides we can always return and deal with anything that may crop up later. Leave now and stop the hemmorage of U.S. assets spilling into Iraq.