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H.R. 1585, The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008

  • This bill has been mooted by the passage of another bill on the same subject or by other events. Check 'Related Bills' below to see if other bills on this subject have been passed into law. Mooted: 1/28/2008.
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bill moats

May 18, 2007, 8:06am (report abuse)

Strongly urge the removal of the TRICARE's program's requirement ..." that outpatient psychotherapy conducted by licensed mental health counselors be provided ONLY under physician referral and supervision "....

Shawn

June 1, 2007, 5:22pm (report abuse)

Cut that in half.

PORKPORKPORK

June 8, 2007, 9:36am (report abuse)

Too much pork in this bill.
No more DOD funding until a HARD DATE is set to get us out of IRAQ, period!

Mud

July 3, 2007, 12:02pm (report abuse)

Typical - currently unable to effectively manage what is already in place, so action is to add add add $$.
Typical family is totally unaware of the burden for continued mismanagement proposed on a much grander scale!

Libertarian David

July 9, 2007, 2:01pm (report abuse)

I agree with Mud, Pork, and Shawn. There is simply too much money required here for the amount of mismanagement and inefficiency we have seen out of the government.

David Smith

July 10, 2007, 4:59am (report abuse)

It's a necessary cost to maintain readyness.

Dave

July 10, 2007, 10:21pm (report abuse)

This bill must be passed in order to give our armed forces what they need. Can't play politics at a time when our nation's security is threatened.

Bruce de la Vega

July 24, 2007, 3:10pm (report abuse)

The heart of the bill would be OK. What I can stomach are all of the encrustations, like the huge increase in H-1B visas.

Jan

September 19, 2007, 7:41am (report abuse)

An ammendment also includes the DREAM Act to give in-state tuition and amnesty to illegal students. Do these people think the votes are that stupid?

WayneJ

September 20, 2007, 7:56am (report abuse)

What is wrong with HR. 333? Everyone needs to read it and support this action. It just makes sense.

Ann

October 2, 2007, 8:36am (report abuse)

Have you looked at what was already spent on 2007's budget? Not including what was taken out of the Social Security fund. Twice.

Look, we still do not have things in place for our agents to effectively communicate and stop another terrorist attempt. Homeland security is bunched in with the cost of war. It is already noted that the war was not started for terrorist purposes, but because of other purposes. Now we have the idiot in Iran as President wanting to make war. We are not okay here on US soil.

This is already a mess. Now, if we pull out we have other issues to content with, if we don't pull out we have lost lives and spent money in vain. Kind of puts our back up against the wall, doesn't it?

Reality

October 2, 2007, 9:48pm (report abuse)

Two things:

1. This bill gives contractors families (think Blackwater) $100,000 if they are killed in Iraq or Afghanistan or anywhere while supporting the "fight against terrorism.

2. Whom are we being kept safe from?

"Ana raicha Al Qaeda" is colloquial for "I'm going to the toilet". A very common and widespread use of the word "Al-Qaeda" in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl. This name comes from the Arabic verb "Qa'ada" which mean "to sit", pertinently, on the "Toilet Bowl". In most Arabs homes there are two kinds of toilets: "Al-Qaeda" also called the "Hamam Franji" or foreign toilet, and "Hamam Arabi" or "Arab toilet" which is a hole in the ground. Lest we forget it, the potty used by small children is called "Ma Qa'adia" or "Little Qaeda".
So, if you were forming a terrorist group, would you call yourself, "The Toilet"?

Disgusted

October 4, 2007, 10:17pm (report abuse)

ditto pork/pork/pork - it's bloated and fat - which is in keeping with dismal picture our society in general - borrowed money on borrowed time. Half would be more than enough.

Hey ANN***

October 26, 2007, 9:47pm (report abuse)

Now we have the idiot in Iran as President wanting to make war. We are not okay here on US soil.
--- Who told you that? Fox News? Please explain how you've come to believe that President Ahmandidejad wants to make war? Every interview with him he has stated that he is NOT interested in going to war. He has stated that he will defend his country. Why should Iran not have the same rights as the United States? Why should we be able to create nuclear power, and Iran shouldn't? Why do we and Israel and other countries be trusted to have nuclear weapons while others have to be treated like the children of the world? We don't listen the the U.N - why shouldn't there be sanctions against us? And, how do you not know that the rest of the world may consider sanctions against the U.S for ignoring their rulings?

Ann, shoot your TV

November 10, 2007, 8:23am (report abuse)

No, really. Do yourself a service and shoot it. Shoot it now. I tlies to you and has made you think that Iran wants to attack someone. Anyone. Absurd!

Carson

November 14, 2007, 1:01am (report abuse)

Because Iran is a proven known supporter of terrorism and wouldn't think twice giving/selling nuclear arms to terrorist networks. Look deeper into President Ahmandidejad's background. We can't rely on the Fox News and CNN conglomerates to give us enough info on things, little less even tell the truth.

Dennis

November 21, 2007, 10:56am (report abuse)

Non-germane "hate crimes" legislation is imbedded in this national defense bill. It must be removed from this bill and given an opportunity to stand alone

Airborne Jim

November 28, 2007, 8:18am (report abuse)

Is the SBP paid in full at age 70 included in this bill???? Thanks

SGT ARMANDO ORTIZ

December 18, 2007, 11:28am (report abuse)

THIS BILL NEEDS TO HURRY AND SET ITS DIFFERENCES ASIDE, THIS BILL IS OUR PAY RAISE, OUR RE-UP BONUS, AND OUR HOUSING INCREASE THAT ALL OF OUR SOLDIERS NEED. IF NOT APPROVED BY 31 DEC, WE WILL LOSE AN OPPURTUNITY FOR A RE-ENLISTMENT BONUS, AND NOT RECIEVE OUR 3.5% PAY RAISE.

Stickman

December 20, 2007, 1:18pm (report abuse)

Having family in the Armed Services, I'd be inclined to support this bill if it didn't suffer from the same fundamental flaw that almost all bills have in this country, namely a glut of unrelated pet projects, and a lack of incentive for efficiency. The US accounts for %45 of the total global military expenditure. There's room for improvement, people, and until we start to fix some of these fundamental flaws, throwing money at the problem will only make it worse.

CW3 US Army (ret)

December 21, 2007, 12:02pm (report abuse)

Without defense there is no hope. We may be able to do away with spending on education, health care, and needless investigations, but never defense. Defense is necessary. This is a dangerous world filled with nations and ideologies that hate this country. All they need is a lack in our preparedness and our country will be taken over. Defense = freedom, and is priceless.

PS. I read this bill and saw NO Pork!

HOOAH!

January 5, 2008, 10:45am (report abuse)

Pay the troops and pay them now! While we are here tinkering on web pages and voicing our opinions, they are putting themselves in harms way to assure we are afforded such liberties. For all of those who feel that this bill shouldn't pass I urge you to put on a uniform, get on a bird, go into Baghdad, Baghram or any other hot spot and do your part. Then come back and give a proper assessment on why the troops shouldn't receive these funds!

anitaana

January 7, 2008, 7:49pm (report abuse)

Please, please Mr. Honorable President sign H.R. 1585 it will be a dream come true. Dreams come once in a lifetime. Thanks,

screwed up

January 9, 2008, 8:29am (report abuse)

See the problem is that you are right. There is things that could used taken out of this bill. So they need to fix it. the longer it takes the more every soldier is getting screwed. We need to voice our opinion. Contact your state senator

Brian Billings

January 14, 2008, 2:29pm (report abuse)

I am actually for the bill and not against it. For I believe that our miltary needs all the funding that they can get. I believe in the power and strenght of our miltary and I believe that without proper fund to be given to them, our miltary branches will weaken and we don't want that to happen when we enemies at our throat in this particlar time. They need all the support a nations government can provide. For what is a state or country without their miltary, it would be like the Human without its skin. No Protection!!

Rico

January 14, 2008, 9:16pm (report abuse)

Shame on all of you against this bill. I'm sure some pork projects got tied in with this bill (as with all bills), but definitely not to the extent you might think. I'm a veteran of 20 years and I can promise you our living conditions are often less than desirable. I've heard many argue, including some of my friends, it's ('was' in my case) a personal choice. Yep, one I very proud of! And for those of you that decide to make other personal choices in life, other than joining the military, I say fantastic! But do me a favor by remembering those who gave you that choice, especially those who did so with their life.

Mark

January 15, 2008, 3:31pm (report abuse)

Does Nancy Pelosi have a damn brother-in-law that builds windmills? Is this a windpower/go green bill or a defense bill? Mandating this renewable resources crap into defense bills to promote the environmentalist agenda is pork! Take it out! We need to be worrying about getting as much oil out of Iraq as possible at a decent price and using it efficiently here at home. And, the DOD needs to take care of the defense of our country, kick ass in Iraq and other places and let private industry and business incentives take care of renewable resources. Crappy pork-pushing politicians trying to steal power from the executive branch, again!

SSG AIRBORNE

January 15, 2008, 6:51pm (report abuse)

LET'S PUT THE BS ASIDE AND TAKE CARE OF OUR MILITARY AND THEIR FAMILIES. THEY ARE WAITING ON ENLISTMENT & RE-ENLISTMENT BONUSES AND ARE DEFENDING THIS GREAT COUNTRY.
DAISY CUTTER - $400,000
ARMY BASIC TRAINING - $100,000
M4 CARBINE - $800
FREEDOM - PRICELESS

anita guam

January 21, 2008, 6:22am (report abuse)

It will be a dream come true if the bill will be signed by the president. the 100% disabled veterans and their dependents could travel on a space available flights. Please Mr. President.

Cassia

January 21, 2008, 5:37pm (report abuse)

Pass the damn bill s***!!!

Sammy

January 23, 2008, 3:35pm (report abuse)

The Prez vetoed it so he could protect his crownies from being held liable for the war crimes they are committing. Too bad. Once again he's doing the W-CYA Plan, which means he and his Bubba's will be protected, while the servicemembers who really need this Bill passed will continue to suffer. Another sad day in the Bush Administration....

MPA

January 24, 2008, 2:34am (report abuse)

Reality, you are wrong about your definition of Al Queda. I don't know where you have been getting your Arabic training, but Al Queda means literally "The Base".

Denny

January 28, 2008, 11:28pm (report abuse)

Everyone wants to take care of our military. The best way to do that is to bring our troops home, increase their salaries and benefits, and allow them to defend our borders and sovereignty. Defending the borders of other countries is just bad economics, poor finance, and stupid politics. Everyone in the world eventually hates us because of our unfair police actions. If you want to feel secure, learn to get along with other countries and not preemptively attack them based on lies. Our military personnel deserve better than that.
Secondly, devise an energy policy to advance conservationism and clean energy in this country now; not later. Developing an energy policy to survive Peak Oil rather than throwing taxpayer money at the military budget used to invade countries illegally makes no sense.
I thought we learned this lesson after Vietnam. I guess not! Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

steve

February 4, 2008, 7:09pm (report abuse)

the man whose favorite philosopher is Jesus wants more for military and less for the poor, the homeless, the sick, etc.

Military Family

February 5, 2008, 10:20am (report abuse)

Bad enough my husband is requried to re up for 6 years but to do so with out a bonuses or something more than a "Do it for your Country" is not going to keep his family feed or clothed. Just pass the bill!!

hope

April 30, 2008, 2:21pm (report abuse)

if members of of a reserve force is medicly retired with a pention based on his highest rank held for loss of imployment, why does crsc reduce that amount to that which he would have received had he retired at age 60(about 1/4 of his retired pay?

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