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P.L. 109-289, The Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2007
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Marine
WHo are all the people voting agianst this bill? I can't believe this manyh people are aginst the US> military.
Non Marine
Maybe the entire population of Irak?
Proud US Citizen
Perhaps its the proud citizens of the US who are tired of our Government lying about why we are at war and who have come to realize that our President is a sick man who hides his personal agenda (oil money) behind his fundamentalist religious beliefs.
no support
I'm an objector who doesn't support our troops at war in Iraq.
The moral duplicity of saying "I support the troops" when you don't "support the war" is wholly disengenious, not to mention absurd. I do not support the war in Iraq because it is not sustainable or worth the investment. We are stuck in the middle of a civil war and we should not be there to police an angry overpopulation population of mistreated people. DoD procurments should go to rebuilding the US rail system as global oil production will eventually recede just as it began doing here in the US domestically in 1970. We used to produce around 10 million barrels of oil in the US now we produce just under 6 million. We consume 20 million barrels of oil a day. Do the math that comes out to 7 billion barrles consumed in the US alone every year. That means if we were only dependent on US oil reserves of 21 billion barrels (and if it were geologically possible to extract at faster rates--it isn't due to the lowering of the table bringing more sour heavy crude which moves slower, and depressurization, we would be able to run our nation for a mere 3 years (7 billion barrels times years equals 21 billion barrels consumed. Decreased energy inputs into modern industrial economies is not a good thing and will induce negative growth and economic depression. Hence, Neocons come in and attempt to actually use our huge fighting apparatus to "change the world and shape her in our favor". They seemed to have failed, now someone else will get in power (whoever, either party, doesn't make a difference to me at this point there aren't any real differences except assanine moral debates ironically between the ethical cretans in Congress) and they will most likely be so entrenched in the pschology of previous investment (James Howard Kunstler's term)--like all have been ever since FDR established our relationship with Saudi King Ibn Saud on a brisk Febebruary 1945 day off the coast of Egypt. Today Abdul Aziz (current king) is gonna die soon and the s*** will certainly hit the fan... Mixing family and business is almost uniformly always a bad idea. Anyway the reason I voted against this bill is because I believe the DoD wastes too much money and it could be siphoned off to enable us to withstand the coming permanent energy crisis far easier than if we walk blind-folded into the future.
Another thing, watch the documentary titled "Occupation Dreamland"--superb film, it gives a good outlook of what supplementary DoD budget money is paying of ron the ground... A lot of policing, and American's stuck dieing inbetween battling secterian religious fundementalists.
My support? No sirree.
Love it or Leave it
All you peaople second guessing our military and civilian leaders are going to get whats' coming when Sadam or Osama are barking orders at you. You littel wesals.
Liberty Jack
Who's going to protect, We The People, from the impending Tribunals of The Military against our fellow citizens,without the writ of Habeus Corpus, that Bush signed into "Law" last Tuesday 10/17?
Overpaid
$400 billion a year for my whole life, and all I got was attacked. I'd like a refund please, my Defense department seems to be broken. People who think we're getting our money's worth from defense contractors watch too much TV from those same companies (GE = NBC/CNBC/MSNBC, Etc.) You are getting ripped off! Don't wiat to see it on the news....
Armed and Free
Wonder how people would react if they received a $1900 invoice instead of this crap being hidden by the current tax code.
Patriot
For those who wonder who wouldn't support this bill, you should read it a little more closely. It ammends the Insurrection Act as follows:
"the President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when . . . the President determines that domestic violence has occurred"
This negates the Posse Comitatus Act which the Pentagon has previouslty argued "expresses one of the clearest political traditions in Anglo-American history: that using military power to enforce the civilian law is harmful to both civilian and military interests." Those were the Pentagon's words, not mine.
The issue is not about "supporting the troups" or other vague platitudes. It's about defending our constitutional democracy against those who have little use either for the Constitution or democracy. Would you rather we abandon the freedoms we profess to be fighting to preserve?
And as far as loving it or leaving it - those of us who are willing to stand up against those who don't give a damn about the Constitution, whether they be in the Middle East or in the halls of Congress or the White House are the true patriots. Those of you who would sacrifice liberty for a little bit of security, as Benjamin Franklin once said, "deserve neither".
I suggest you educate yourself on our history (also on spelling) so you might be able to make a valuable contribution to this discussion rather than some inane comment that only serves to betray your lack of education and understanding of the issues.
And yes, we should get invoices for major appropriations so everyone is aware of how their tax dollars are spent. Fortunately we'll all be able to see that detail soon, because the recently passed "Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006" will give us all access to how our tax dollars are spent, including Congressional 'earmarks'. Bravo Barack Obama for championing this legislation.
Soldier
Oh my god there is so much more to this bill than just the War in Iraq. Why are people so uninformed? I am out of a job right now because Congress is dilly dallying and can't get anything done. This bill will help me continue my work as a National Guard intelligence analyst that is assigned full time to a law enforcement agency on a drug task force. This is for the home front too! This is for the states' "Counterdrug" program which puts soldiers into civillian jobs to help law enforcement agencies with their intel work. Wake up people. Do some research. And screw you "no support" Again...do some research and you'll see all the good we're doing in Iraq. For example, the Ohio Army National Guard helped in the very first free election...they watched and helped while Women voted! Wake up and shut up.
Paul
I am out of job right now too, and I never have had the good fortune to be able to suck at the great governmental teat. If you work for this government, count yourself well off.
I see many valid arguments and examples of how bad this administration has operated as I see the other side continue to try and use fear for their purpose. So sad.