http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills info@washingtonwatch.com http://www.pjdoland.com/chai/?v=0.1 http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#41624 Last year I met an English-speaking Mexican woman who lived in Anaheim. She had five children. She had never been married. She had never had a job. She had never been homeless. She had never been separated from her children. She was extremely proud of being at-home mother, apparently one of the 40 (?) million chosen few who have been coming to the United States in droves since 1985. They should build a prison in Tiajuana with a childcare facility for the their children under 13 and deport all illegal aliens to it to await the outcome of their INS hearing. The only exceptions should be parents with children currently enrolled in our high schools.... 41624@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:44:18 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#41424 Going after the employers is the best enforcement tool. But it should not be limited to the companies but should also include fines and jail time CEOs, CFOs, and Owners. After noticing small camps of what appears to be illegals camped near oil field drilling and production sites, I agree that companies must be held accountable.... 41424@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:02:14 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#40630 Matt - Why do you say the following? I read those sections, and it seems only prudent to give border patrol personnnel the equipment they need...You: "Might be a good law, but I am not in anyway in favor of section 102 or 103, these sections are really, really bad for americans, make sure you read them the rest of the bill seems viable" I'm missing what prompted you to reject these 2 sections.... 40630@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:58:01 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#39688 All this hate. All this venom. All this acrimony. And for what? The "illegal" in "illegal immigration" is, after all, only a misdemeanor. That's right, a misdemeanor. Like a speeding ticket. I'll bet the majority of mean-spirited racists replying here have broken the speed limit time and time again. Indeed, you've probably broken the law, willing to risk the insignificant consequences (at least in part) for the same reason immigrants take that risk: Years of law enforcement looking the other way because it's just not a big deal, and light punishment when they are caught (like pleading "faulty equipment"). A misdemeanor. You all act like immigrants coming "misdemeanorly" into this country for a better life for their families is a stone cold felony that should be punishable by death. Probably you'd like it to be by stoning . . . especially if you could throw some. Taliban, anyone? For shame.... 39688@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:12:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#39159 Why set aside millions to pay more newly appointed Federal Judges, when we can't get Congress to even put the current list of judges up to a vote? Let's get than done first to show that Congress is capable of acting on something.... 39159@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:48:28 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#38974 I'm a European,and i guess all most of haters here are just a bunch of US losers and morons,When you guys would begin to understand that Mexicans they don't give a damn if you guys deport them,And who would gone sustain the low job from US if these law would take effect and deport mass illegals back to their mother land all most of them been South Americans,Are you guys the white slums of US would gone work hard to sustain the empty low jobs? US economy is all ready in ruin,all need is to start to deport those people back in home and US would have recession chaos,These people would not have a problem,they would chose other destinations like Europe... 38974@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:06:48 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#38620 for all those people that are complaining about mexicans "taking" jobs. Newsflash they are unwanted jobs. first of all i want to see an american picking fruit at 5 am i want to see an american mowing the lawn in almost 100 degree weather i want to see an american work 12 hoursa day in a factory .....wake up to reality people and stop discriminating. ANd no!! mexicans or do no have diseases you poeple make them sound like they're infected... 38620@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:43:35 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#36784 Even the Native Americans immigrated to what is now the US. US history has continued to block ethnic groups. From the Irish,Southern Europeans, Chinese,Jews,Africans,and now Hispanics.Do you know/care how hard it is to get a Visa especially if you are from Mexico. WE ALL CAME HERE FOR A BETTER LIFE!If any of you lived their lives, you would jump whatever obsticles to make a better life for you, your family. Make VISA's simplier, allow supply/demand equalize everything.Mr. Bush tear down that Border...... 36784@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:04:54 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#36607 I have seen total abuse of fake SSN and what they claim as dependents on taxes. More astonishing is they can get a refund. Not to mention all the free(American paid) medical and food. Stop wasting paper/stamps....send agents out for random checks. This will catch illegal immigrants and employers both! Just a thought... 36607@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:39:58 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#34295 About the only "good" argument against the bill is the one about the 12 million "errors" in the database: Those are 12.7 million instances of ILLEGALS using SSNs of others ILLEGALLY. I've SEEN no-match letters, and have heard the explanations from the SSA: "This employee has an SSN of an 8-year old girl in another state." So the illegal runs off to get ANOTHER social security card with ANOTHER fraudulent SSN, and the SSA takes another year to send A DIFFERENT NO MATCH LETTER. This is how you FIX the errors: Make the person using the number illegally GO HOME.... 34295@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 08 May 2008 23:07:09 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#33902 H.R. 4088 is a Trojan Horse. It contains much of the same language as other immigration (amnesty bills) of the last two years. It calls for a virtual fence, not only along the Mexican border but around the international and maritime borders of the United States,a security perimeter. See Sec. 111 and Sec. 104. Bush is also urging Congress to pass the Merida Initiative, put together in secret at the Department of State. It will help Mexico secure its border, including its southern border with Belize and Guatemala. Canada is working on its portion of the virtual fence. When completed and certified, a common security perimeter will exist around North America, allowing for the eventual free flow of citizens and commerce throughout the continent, a corporate state, with governing institutions, two of which are already in place. See raykania.com and thesigintreport.com, "George Bush's Merida Initiative: Legislation to Merge North America" Feb 14, 2008 archives... 33902@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 05 May 2008 14:48:22 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#33614 round'em all up and herd them to desolate location and teach them english by force. another suggestion would be for us "north" americans to start invading mexico. have pregnancy tests done prior to entering US or when caught. if caught, they should be detained until they go into labor and then dropped off in mexico city.... 33614@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 02 May 2008 12:13:14 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#33440 copihue wrote: "... will negatively impact all people in the United States...It will put 12.7 million citizens ... at risk ... high error rates in the database. It will also put a stamp of approval on detaining CHILDREN...” ---------- Your assessment is inaccurate. H.R. 4088 directly addresses the security and sovereignty of the United States, and would efficiently identify persons engaged in illegal employment, identity theft, and unlawful presence in the United States. H.R. 4088 provides for discrepancies and mismatches in the federal databases, and provides for their correction in section 202.a and 202.b of the bill, in addition to providing for a phase-in over a 4-year span (Sec. 201), under Title-II. As for humanitarian concerns, there are penalties for breaking a nation's laws, for all persons. Prisons are full of US citizens who decided to break the law, and their families and CHILDREN suffer the consequences of their personal decision to do so.... 33440@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:18:11 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#33439 I have read the act and it is amazing that Congress came up with it, given its commonsense approach to our broken border security, rampant identity thefts, and floods of illegal immigration. Amazing!... 33439@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:07:43 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#33199 As time has shown, the opponents of amnesty in 1986 were dead on target and the proponents had successfully used another ploy to gain advantage even though they knew in advance there would be no enforcement. Such political betrayal is why there is such opposition to amnesty again. As far as limiting the first phase of enforcement to companies with over 250 employees, why not simply place a bar 6’ above ground at the border and prohibit all Mexicans from entering who can’t walk under it while standing upright? Do any Congressmen have any clue about life in the real world? Specifically, the vast majority of employers are small operations with fewer than 100 employees. The SAVE Act “Enforces Current Laws”? What?! Where in current immigration law is there a grace period of more than four years? Where is there a limit of over 250 employees? To repeat, “Such political betrayal is why there is such opposition to amnesty again.”... 33199@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:11:25 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#32877 The above comment is a classic example of the contempt and disrespect many illegal aliens show regarding the sovereignty of The United States of America, and is just another reason why this bill needs to become law. A country has immigration laws for the benefit of the country, not the immigrant.... 32877@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:28:31 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#32848 What i Think is that Americans are afraid because "us" hispanics are TAKING OVER .. yup datz right we TAKING OVER People we multiplying and coming here non stop!... THe us is a land of inmmigrants all you people came from other countries maybe not exactly you but ur ancestors and now you call the U.S. your country and try to kick other people out who jus come kere to work and have a better life then in our home countries... but hey our countries aint doing much or should i say nothiing at all to make living conditions better so why not go to another country the only way they can "illegaly" and work in low payin jobs and still making 10 times as much then in our home countries.. BLaH too much and soo much to say for nothing, you people are just close minded.... but one thing is yall aint gettin rid of us thas for sure!... 32848@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:02:31 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#32625 This is a misguided bill which will negatively impact all people in the United States, not just undocumented immigrants, but citizens as well. It will put 12.7 million citizens (number provided by the Social Security Administration) at risk of losing their jobs because of the high error rates in the database. It will also put a stamp of approval on detaining CHILDREN in questionable conditions (see Hutto facility in Texas). It will deepen mistrust of law enforcement in immigrant communities, further eroding public safety for all. Finally, it would put religious and humanitarian workers behind bars for so-called "alien smuggling", what some would call being a Good Samaritan.... 32625@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:43:51 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#32621 This bill does nothing to address the root causes of immigration, and undocumented immigration in particular, instead wasting money to keep us "safe". From whom? Last time I checked, none of the terrorists who have attacked the U.S. were Latino. Also, those of you from Cali who are complaining that your state is turning into Mexico: your state WAS Mexico to begin with. Just a little FYI.... 32621@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:32:51 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#32416 All the hype about ".we have to have a comprehensive immigration reform.." is just an excuse to tack on more amnesty for those who CHOSE to come her illegally. We tried this back in 1986, gave them all amnesty & said we would enforce the laws. We didn't & now we have a huge population of illegal immigrants here that are overcrowding our cities, schools & hospitals, using more in govt benefits than they pay in taxes, & instead of embracing American culture & society we are being told to just accept it because it's the pc thing to do. I have no issue with those who wish to come here thru the legal process. It's up to us as citizens to hold our govt accountable to make sure that they enforce the laws. Do your part by going to numbersusa.com to fax all your reps. If you compare our immigration policies to most other functioning countries, you'll find that most have much harsher policies than us & understand that you can't just open up the borders to everyone who wants to come.... 32416@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:50:18 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#32056 This solves nothing. Like Bob below said its about the money and to hell with the people. Also if companies of any size do, do any off the books pay this bill is worthless. Second Under 100 employed that is covering a load of employers quite possible the number one group employing illegals(source needed.) And how are we supposed to pay for this sh*t when our nation is in debt and going though huge economic problems. The common citizen is going to loose out again and have less privileges as to how they believe they can run there life.... 32056@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:32:00 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#32035 How many times have we heard of immigration reform only to find out later it was never enforced, or it was just a cover-up to give the impression something is being done. We already have strick immigration laws. The politicians in Washington, both republicans and democrats have no intention of enforcing the laws or securing our borders. If you believe this bill will change things, you are living in a dreamworld.... 32035@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:36:58 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#31966 What are they waiting for? Perhaps waiting until Bush is out of office so he doesn't use it as an excuse to illegally use his executive powers again...idiot.... 31966@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:55:46 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#31948 Check out NumbersUSA.com and DO SOMETHING. Encourage your Congressman to sign the Discharge Petition for this bill. You can send faxes directly from their web-site for free, and also find phone numbers to call their offices. This is the most important legislation this Congress will see, and it is our duty as Americans, to force our politicians to take a side. Either they are for a sovereign nation as we Americans are, or they are against us Americans.... 31948@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:00:26 EDT http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_4088.html#31929 I wonder why I even served in the military for this country. They are going to eliminate our borders and make the North American Union. Check out SPP.gov I also live in California and this state is turning into Mexico. It is disgusting.... 31929@http://www.washingtonwatch.com Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:21:13 EDT